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  • @morkon said:

    He's likely to be suspended for 12 games.  Pouncey for 2 games.

    I doubt it, 12 games would tie the longest on-field suspension in league history, and that was for Burfict who had a bunch of previous suspensions

    @crunchy said:

    I doubt it, 12 games would tie the longest on-field suspension in league history, and that was for Burfict who had a bunch of previous suspensions

    watch.    haynesworth 5 games.   think of ron artest.   its gonna be more like that.

  • @bjh2130 said:

    6 games is the rest of the year...

     Also I don't know that it is any worse than haynesworth. Garrett was at least provoked (not excusing)  Haynesworth just did it because he got blocked and they gave up a td.

    I’d say the difference is he ripped the dudes helmet off (his only protection against what was about to come), then used that very item (now a lethal weapon) and clocked him over the head.  I’ve been watching football for 45 years and I’ve never seen that before.   

    @buzzsaw619 said:

    I’d say the difference is he ripped the dudes helmet off (his only protection against what was about to come), then used that very item (now a lethal weapon) and clocked him over the head.  I’ve been watching football for 45 years and I’ve never seen that before.   

    Stomping on a dude's head who is laying on the ground (no helmet because Haynesworth knocked it off) with cleats to the point he needs 30 stitches. The difference is Garrett was provoked and was still being aggressively approached while Haynesworth just stomped on a guy who wasn't doing anything but laying on the ground. Both used weapons (cleat and helmet)  to hit someone in the head.  One sent a guy to the hospital one the guy played the next snap.

  • @crunchy said:

    I doubt it, 12 games would tie the longest on-field suspension in league history, and that was for Burfict who had a bunch of previous suspensions

    watch.    haynesworth 5 games.   think of ron artest.   its gonna be more like that.

    @morkon said:

    watch.    haynesworth 5 games.   think of ron artest.   its gonna be more like that.

    Myles didn't go in the stands and fight yinzers and is a first time offender

  • Just turned the channel (LA Fox TV) and the consensus of Vince Ferragamo, Jackie Slater and Shawne Merriman is that Myles will be suspended the rest of the year at a minimum, and indefinitely at a maximum. All 3 ex players were extremely harsh and talked about how long it's going to take Myles to change the perception of himself that he himself created in 8 seconds. 

    We'll all know pretty quick as the NFL will act swiftly on this.................... on a brighter note, we beat the fuckin' Stoolers.  

  • @buzzsaw619 said:

    I believe this was worse than the  Haynesworth incident.  I’ll be surprised if Garrett isn’t done for the year. 

    6 games is the rest of the year...

     Also I don't know that it is any worse than haynesworth. Garrett was at least provoked (not excusing)  Haynesworth just did it because he got blocked and they gave up a td. Drew blood guy needed 30 stitches.  This can't be worse than that. 

    @bjh2130 said:

    6 games is the rest of the year...

     Also I don't know that it is any worse than haynesworth. Garrett was at least provoked (not excusing)  Haynesworth just did it because he got blocked and they gave up a td. Drew blood guy needed 30 stitches.  This can't be worse than that. 

    But as the commentators are saying, it could have paralysed him. Better, worse? That's like asking which is worse? Eating a turd or a live spider. And Garrett semi started it from throwing him down and laying on him when he didn't need to. Then Rudolph reacted. 

  • Just turned the channel (LA Fox TV) and the consensus of Vince Ferragamo, Jackie Slater and Shawne Merriman is that Myles will be suspended the rest of the year at a minimum, and indefinitely at a maximum. All 3 ex players were extremely harsh and talked about how long it's going to take Myles to change the perception of himself that he himself created in 8 seconds. 

    We'll all know pretty quick as the NFL will act swiftly on this.................... on a brighter note, we beat the fuckin' Stoolers.  

    @d-bone said:

    Just turned the channel and the consensus of Vince Ferragamo, Jackie Slater and Shawne Merriman is that Myles will be suspended the rest of the year at a minimum, and indefinitely at a maximum. All 3 ex players were extremely harsh and talked about how long it's going to take Myles to change the perception of himself that he himself created in 8 seconds. 

    We'll all know pretty quick as the NFL will act swiftly on this.................... on a brighter note, we beat the fuckin' Stoolers.  

    Both literally and literally...

  • @jbluhm86 said:

    Steve Smith summed it up pretty succinctly on TNF postgame show: what if Garrett would've hit Rudolph in the head in a wrong way and paralyzed the dude? I know, as Browns fans, we hate the Steelers, but there's no way we can defend that shit. It was just wrong, plain and simple.

    You can say 'what if' all day long, bottom line is Rudolph's fine, Garrett will be suspended, hopefully for just 2 or 3 games, and we whupped them up and down the field

    @crunchy said:

    You can say 'what if' all day long, bottom line is Rudolph's fine, Garrett will be suspended, hopefully for just 2 or 3 games, and we whupped them up and down the field

    you would think that dumb ass rudolph once his helmet came off would not have stuck around 

  • @bjh2130 said:

    6 games is the rest of the year...

     Also I don't know that it is any worse than haynesworth. Garrett was at least provoked (not excusing)  Haynesworth just did it because he got blocked and they gave up a td. Drew blood guy needed 30 stitches.  This can't be worse than that. 

    But as the commentators are saying, it could have paralysed him. Better, worse? That's like asking which is worse? Eating a turd or a live spider. And Garrett semi started it from throwing him down and laying on him when he didn't need to. Then Rudolph reacted. 

    @icecube said:

    But as the commentators are saying, it could have paralysed him. Better, worse? That's like asking which is worse? Eating a turd or a live spider. And Garrett semi started it from throwing him down and laying on him when he didn't need to. Then Rudolph reacted. 

    I didn't say it was better or worse. I said they were very similar so I expect a suspension of 5-6 games.  Someone else said Garrett's was worse so I was just stating why I don't think Garrett's was worse. I was trying to show him Haynesworth was just as bad.

  • @mld-woody said:

    Legitimate fouls

    Freddie can't control the team. He's just not a good HC

    The illegal contact on Burris on third down was not a legitimate call woody.  The rest were. But that was not and it was a huge one because it extended the drive 

    @bjh2130 said:

    The illegal contact on Burris on third down was not a legitimate call woody.  The rest were. But that was not and it was a huge one because it extended the drive 

     woody doesn't get much of anything. I thought the refs did a pretty good job with just a few weird calls. Like their te? shoulder bumped the defender to get away from him, turns left, and the pass is thrown behind him incomplete pass near the end zone. OH WAIT - phantom pi on the Browns.

    looking right at it - that is bs.

    Oh, and the Browns punt. Browns special teamer is there to try to have a chance to down it ...but the squealer player shoves him in the back, right in front of the referee. Takes the Browns defender away from wherever the punt landed... NO CALL.

    But in the second half, I guess the NFL head dope called and told them to help the squealers a bit. They quit calling the squealers for offensive holding. But they call Ogunjobi for hands to the face, when his hand is clearly on his upper chest near his neck.... and the squealer offensive lineman is pulling Ogunjobi's jersey a full 4 inches away from his pads. No call on the offensive lineman.

      Strange how that happens. And, of course, the usual squealer critical play - throw way downfield, and the wr, even though the ball is over his head and he won't get to it, plants his foot and has the defender bump him. The refs call that every time.

    Altough, to be fair - a Browns defender lined up well offsides - no call. So there is that - but that was very early in the game.

  • @buzzsaw619 said:

    I’d say the difference is he ripped the dudes helmet off (his only protection against what was about to come), then used that very item (now a lethal weapon) and clocked him over the head.  I’ve been watching football for 45 years and I’ve never seen that before.   

    Stomping on a dude's head who is laying on the ground (no helmet because Haynesworth knocked it off) with cleats to the point he needs 30 stitches. The difference is Garrett was provoked and was still being aggressively approached while Haynesworth just stomped on a guy who wasn't doing anything but laying on the ground. Both used weapons (cleat and helmet)  to hit someone in the head.  One sent a guy to the hospital one the guy played the next snap.

    @bjh2130 said:

    Stomping on a dude's head who is laying on the ground (no helmet because Haynesworth knocked it off) with cleats to the point he needs 30 stitches. The difference is Garrett was provoked and was still being aggressively approached while Haynesworth just stomped on a guy who wasn't doing anything but laying on the ground. Both used weapons (cleat and helmet)  to hit someone in the head.  One sent a guy to the hospital one the guy played the next snap.

    Are you actually comparing a rubber cleat to a helmet??   Doesn’t matter what the injuries were.  It’s felony assault.  There’s a reason it’s getting the attention it is right now.   It was shocking and inexcusable like Baker said. 

  • @bjh2130 said:

    Stomping on a dude's head who is laying on the ground (no helmet because Haynesworth knocked it off) with cleats to the point he needs 30 stitches. The difference is Garrett was provoked and was still being aggressively approached while Haynesworth just stomped on a guy who wasn't doing anything but laying on the ground. Both used weapons (cleat and helmet)  to hit someone in the head.  One sent a guy to the hospital one the guy played the next snap.

    Are you actually comparing a rubber cleat to a helmet??   Doesn’t matter what the injuries were.  It’s felony assault.  There’s a reason it’s getting the attention it is right now.   It was shocking and inexcusable like Baker said. 

    @buzzsaw619 said:

    Doesn’t matter what the injuries were.  It’s felony assault.  

    Rudolph doesn’t even have a bump on his head....

  • @bjh2130 said:

    6 games is the rest of the year...

     Also I don't know that it is any worse than haynesworth. Garrett was at least provoked (not excusing)  Haynesworth just did it because he got blocked and they gave up a td. Drew blood guy needed 30 stitches.  This can't be worse than that. 

    But as the commentators are saying, it could have paralysed him. Better, worse? That's like asking which is worse? Eating a turd or a live spider. And Garrett semi started it from throwing him down and laying on him when he didn't need to. Then Rudolph reacted. 

    @icecube said:

    But as the commentators are saying, it could have paralysed him. Better, worse? That's like asking which is worse? Eating a turd or a live spider. And Garrett semi started it from throwing him down and laying on him when he didn't need to. Then Rudolph reacted. 

    And Harrison could have paralyzed Massaquoi, Cribbs, and McCoy with cheap shots to the head. Shazier pretty much DID get paralyzed with a headshot. Helmet to helmet hits are way more deadly, lot more force than just a bonk on the head with a lineman in between

  • @buzzsaw619 said:

    I’d say the difference is he ripped the dudes helmet off (his only protection against what was about to come), then used that very item (now a lethal weapon) and clocked him over the head.  I’ve been watching football for 45 years and I’ve never seen that before.   

    Stomping on a dude's head who is laying on the ground (no helmet because Haynesworth knocked it off) with cleats to the point he needs 30 stitches. The difference is Garrett was provoked and was still being aggressively approached while Haynesworth just stomped on a guy who wasn't doing anything but laying on the ground. Both used weapons (cleat and helmet)  to hit someone in the head.  One sent a guy to the hospital one the guy played the next snap.

    @bjh2130 said:

    Stomping on a dude's head who is laying on the ground (no helmet because Haynesworth knocked it off) with cleats to the point he needs 30 stitches. The difference is Garrett was provoked and was still being aggressively approached while Haynesworth just stomped on a guy who wasn't doing anything but laying on the ground. Both used weapons (cleat and helmet)  to hit someone in the head.  One sent a guy to the hospital one the guy played the next snap.

    Well, luckily Rudolph didn't end up in the hospital, but he could have. There is no excusing that. 

  • @icecube said:

    But as the commentators are saying, it could have paralysed him. Better, worse? That's like asking which is worse? Eating a turd or a live spider. And Garrett semi started it from throwing him down and laying on him when he didn't need to. Then Rudolph reacted. 

    I didn't say it was better or worse. I said they were very similar so I expect a suspension of 5-6 games.  Someone else said Garrett's was worse so I was just stating why I don't think Garrett's was worse. I was trying to show him Haynesworth was just as bad.

    @bjh2130 said:

    I didn't say it was better or worse. I said they were very similar so I expect a suspension of 5-6 games.  Someone else said Garrett's was worse so I was just stating why I don't think Garrett's was worse. I was trying to show him Haynesworth was just as bad.

    Understood. 

  • @buzzsaw619 said:

    Doesn’t matter what the injuries were.  It’s felony assault.  

    Rudolph doesn’t even have a bump on his head....

    @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    Rudolph doesn’t even have a bump on his head....

    Right, because you’re his trainer..   It doesn’t matter.  

  • @bjh2130 said:

    Stomping on a dude's head who is laying on the ground (no helmet because Haynesworth knocked it off) with cleats to the point he needs 30 stitches. The difference is Garrett was provoked and was still being aggressively approached while Haynesworth just stomped on a guy who wasn't doing anything but laying on the ground. Both used weapons (cleat and helmet)  to hit someone in the head.  One sent a guy to the hospital one the guy played the next snap.

    Are you actually comparing a rubber cleat to a helmet??   Doesn’t matter what the injuries were.  It’s felony assault.  There’s a reason it’s getting the attention it is right now.   It was shocking and inexcusable like Baker said. 

    @buzzsaw619 said:

    Are you actually comparing a rubber cleat to a helmet??   Doesn’t matter what the injuries were.  It’s felony assault.  There’s a reason it’s getting the attention it is right now.   It was shocking and inexcusable like Baker said. 

    Do you not remember that the Haynesworth incident got this same exact fucking attention? Yeah giving someone cuts to the point they would need 30 stitches with a weapon (cleat) couldn't have felonious assault could it? Jesus man get off board. You are literally here to start stuff.

  • @bjh2130 said:

    6 games is the rest of the year...

     Also I don't know that it is any worse than haynesworth. Garrett was at least provoked (not excusing)  Haynesworth just did it because he got blocked and they gave up a td. Drew blood guy needed 30 stitches.  This can't be worse than that. 

    But as the commentators are saying, it could have paralysed him. Better, worse? That's like asking which is worse? Eating a turd or a live spider. And Garrett semi started it from throwing him down and laying on him when he didn't need to. Then Rudolph reacted. 

    @icecube said:

    But as the commentators are saying, it could have paralysed him. Better, worse? That's like asking which is worse? Eating a turd or a live spider. And Garrett semi started it from throwing him down and laying on him when he didn't need to. Then Rudolph reacted. 

    Or as I said Mike Tomlin started it by calling a play like that with eight seconds left instead of taking a fucking knee when the game was lost. He deserves Criticism for that

  • @crunchy said:

    You can say 'what if' all day long, bottom line is Rudolph's fine, Garrett will be suspended, hopefully for just 2 or 3 games, and we whupped them up and down the field

    you would think that dumb ass rudolph once his helmet came off would not have stuck around 

    @atom said:

    you would think that dumb ass rudolph once his helmet came off would not have stuck around 

    He lost his damn mind, him and Garrett both. Difference is Myles is way stronger

  • @buzzsaw619 said:

    Are you actually comparing a rubber cleat to a helmet??   Doesn’t matter what the injuries were.  It’s felony assault.  There’s a reason it’s getting the attention it is right now.   It was shocking and inexcusable like Baker said. 

    Do you not remember that the Haynesworth incident got this same exact fucking attention? Yeah giving someone cuts to the point they would need 30 stitches with a weapon (cleat) couldn't have felonious assault could it? Jesus man get off board. You are literally here to start stuff.

    @bjh2130 said:

    Do you not remember that the Haynesworth incident got this same exact fucking attention? Yeah giving someone cuts to the point they would need 30 stitches with a weapon (cleat) couldn't have felonious assault could it? Jesus man get off board. You are literally here to start stuff.

    No I’m really not.  I was just giving my unbiased opinion.  And yes I do remember that and you’re right, it did get tons of attention.  As will this.   But the injuries don’t really matter.  He clobbered a QB with his own helmet after the play was over.  To me that’s about as bad as it gets. 

  • @buzzsaw619 said:

    Doesn’t matter what the injuries were.  It’s felony assault.  

    Rudolph doesn’t even have a bump on his head....

    @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    Rudolph doesn’t even have a bump on his head....

    Like I said these helmets must be made of Nerf material