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***Official Browns Vs.Steelers Thursday Night Football Game Thread***

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  • @buzzsaw619 said:

    I’d say the difference is he ripped the dudes helmet off (his only protection against what was about to come), then used that very item (now a lethal weapon) and clocked him over the head.  I’ve been watching football for 45 years and I’ve never seen that before.   

    Stomping on a dude's head who is laying on the ground (no helmet because Haynesworth knocked it off) with cleats to the point he needs 30 stitches. The difference is Garrett was provoked and was still being aggressively approached while Haynesworth just stomped on a guy who wasn't doing anything but laying on the ground. Both used weapons (cleat and helmet)  to hit someone in the head.  One sent a guy to the hospital one the guy played the next snap.

    @bjh2130 said:

    Stomping on a dude's head who is laying on the ground (no helmet because Haynesworth knocked it off) with cleats to the point he needs 30 stitches. The difference is Garrett was provoked and was still being aggressively approached while Haynesworth just stomped on a guy who wasn't doing anything but laying on the ground. Both used weapons (cleat and helmet)  to hit someone in the head.  One sent a guy to the hospital one the guy played the next snap.

    Are you actually comparing a rubber cleat to a helmet??   Doesn’t matter what the injuries were.  It’s felony assault.  There’s a reason it’s getting the attention it is right now.   It was shocking and inexcusable like Baker said. 

  • @bjh2130 said:

    Stomping on a dude's head who is laying on the ground (no helmet because Haynesworth knocked it off) with cleats to the point he needs 30 stitches. The difference is Garrett was provoked and was still being aggressively approached while Haynesworth just stomped on a guy who wasn't doing anything but laying on the ground. Both used weapons (cleat and helmet)  to hit someone in the head.  One sent a guy to the hospital one the guy played the next snap.

    Are you actually comparing a rubber cleat to a helmet??   Doesn’t matter what the injuries were.  It’s felony assault.  There’s a reason it’s getting the attention it is right now.   It was shocking and inexcusable like Baker said. 

    @buzzsaw619 said:

    Doesn’t matter what the injuries were.  It’s felony assault.  

    Rudolph doesn’t even have a bump on his head....

  • @bjh2130 said:

    6 games is the rest of the year...

     Also I don't know that it is any worse than haynesworth. Garrett was at least provoked (not excusing)  Haynesworth just did it because he got blocked and they gave up a td. Drew blood guy needed 30 stitches.  This can't be worse than that. 

    But as the commentators are saying, it could have paralysed him. Better, worse? That's like asking which is worse? Eating a turd or a live spider. And Garrett semi started it from throwing him down and laying on him when he didn't need to. Then Rudolph reacted. 

    @icecube said:

    But as the commentators are saying, it could have paralysed him. Better, worse? That's like asking which is worse? Eating a turd or a live spider. And Garrett semi started it from throwing him down and laying on him when he didn't need to. Then Rudolph reacted. 

    And Harrison could have paralyzed Massaquoi, Cribbs, and McCoy with cheap shots to the head. Shazier pretty much DID get paralyzed with a headshot. Helmet to helmet hits are way more deadly, lot more force than just a bonk on the head with a lineman in between

  • @buzzsaw619 said:

    I’d say the difference is he ripped the dudes helmet off (his only protection against what was about to come), then used that very item (now a lethal weapon) and clocked him over the head.  I’ve been watching football for 45 years and I’ve never seen that before.   

    Stomping on a dude's head who is laying on the ground (no helmet because Haynesworth knocked it off) with cleats to the point he needs 30 stitches. The difference is Garrett was provoked and was still being aggressively approached while Haynesworth just stomped on a guy who wasn't doing anything but laying on the ground. Both used weapons (cleat and helmet)  to hit someone in the head.  One sent a guy to the hospital one the guy played the next snap.

    @bjh2130 said:

    Stomping on a dude's head who is laying on the ground (no helmet because Haynesworth knocked it off) with cleats to the point he needs 30 stitches. The difference is Garrett was provoked and was still being aggressively approached while Haynesworth just stomped on a guy who wasn't doing anything but laying on the ground. Both used weapons (cleat and helmet)  to hit someone in the head.  One sent a guy to the hospital one the guy played the next snap.

    Well, luckily Rudolph didn't end up in the hospital, but he could have. There is no excusing that. 

  • @icecube said:

    But as the commentators are saying, it could have paralysed him. Better, worse? That's like asking which is worse? Eating a turd or a live spider. And Garrett semi started it from throwing him down and laying on him when he didn't need to. Then Rudolph reacted. 

    I didn't say it was better or worse. I said they were very similar so I expect a suspension of 5-6 games.  Someone else said Garrett's was worse so I was just stating why I don't think Garrett's was worse. I was trying to show him Haynesworth was just as bad.

    @bjh2130 said:

    I didn't say it was better or worse. I said they were very similar so I expect a suspension of 5-6 games.  Someone else said Garrett's was worse so I was just stating why I don't think Garrett's was worse. I was trying to show him Haynesworth was just as bad.

    Understood. 

  • @buzzsaw619 said:

    Doesn’t matter what the injuries were.  It’s felony assault.  

    Rudolph doesn’t even have a bump on his head....

    @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    Rudolph doesn’t even have a bump on his head....

    Right, because you’re his trainer..   It doesn’t matter.  

  • @bjh2130 said:

    Stomping on a dude's head who is laying on the ground (no helmet because Haynesworth knocked it off) with cleats to the point he needs 30 stitches. The difference is Garrett was provoked and was still being aggressively approached while Haynesworth just stomped on a guy who wasn't doing anything but laying on the ground. Both used weapons (cleat and helmet)  to hit someone in the head.  One sent a guy to the hospital one the guy played the next snap.

    Are you actually comparing a rubber cleat to a helmet??   Doesn’t matter what the injuries were.  It’s felony assault.  There’s a reason it’s getting the attention it is right now.   It was shocking and inexcusable like Baker said. 

    @buzzsaw619 said:

    Are you actually comparing a rubber cleat to a helmet??   Doesn’t matter what the injuries were.  It’s felony assault.  There’s a reason it’s getting the attention it is right now.   It was shocking and inexcusable like Baker said. 

    Do you not remember that the Haynesworth incident got this same exact fucking attention? Yeah giving someone cuts to the point they would need 30 stitches with a weapon (cleat) couldn't have felonious assault could it? Jesus man get off board. You are literally here to start stuff.

  • @bjh2130 said:

    6 games is the rest of the year...

     Also I don't know that it is any worse than haynesworth. Garrett was at least provoked (not excusing)  Haynesworth just did it because he got blocked and they gave up a td. Drew blood guy needed 30 stitches.  This can't be worse than that. 

    But as the commentators are saying, it could have paralysed him. Better, worse? That's like asking which is worse? Eating a turd or a live spider. And Garrett semi started it from throwing him down and laying on him when he didn't need to. Then Rudolph reacted. 

    @icecube said:

    But as the commentators are saying, it could have paralysed him. Better, worse? That's like asking which is worse? Eating a turd or a live spider. And Garrett semi started it from throwing him down and laying on him when he didn't need to. Then Rudolph reacted. 

    Or as I said Mike Tomlin started it by calling a play like that with eight seconds left instead of taking a fucking knee when the game was lost. He deserves Criticism for that

  • @crunchy said:

    You can say 'what if' all day long, bottom line is Rudolph's fine, Garrett will be suspended, hopefully for just 2 or 3 games, and we whupped them up and down the field

    you would think that dumb ass rudolph once his helmet came off would not have stuck around 

    @atom said:

    you would think that dumb ass rudolph once his helmet came off would not have stuck around 

    He lost his damn mind, him and Garrett both. Difference is Myles is way stronger

  • @buzzsaw619 said:

    Are you actually comparing a rubber cleat to a helmet??   Doesn’t matter what the injuries were.  It’s felony assault.  There’s a reason it’s getting the attention it is right now.   It was shocking and inexcusable like Baker said. 

    Do you not remember that the Haynesworth incident got this same exact fucking attention? Yeah giving someone cuts to the point they would need 30 stitches with a weapon (cleat) couldn't have felonious assault could it? Jesus man get off board. You are literally here to start stuff.

    @bjh2130 said:

    Do you not remember that the Haynesworth incident got this same exact fucking attention? Yeah giving someone cuts to the point they would need 30 stitches with a weapon (cleat) couldn't have felonious assault could it? Jesus man get off board. You are literally here to start stuff.

    No I’m really not.  I was just giving my unbiased opinion.  And yes I do remember that and you’re right, it did get tons of attention.  As will this.   But the injuries don’t really matter.  He clobbered a QB with his own helmet after the play was over.  To me that’s about as bad as it gets. 

  • @buzzsaw619 said:

    Doesn’t matter what the injuries were.  It’s felony assault.  

    Rudolph doesn’t even have a bump on his head....

    @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    Rudolph doesn’t even have a bump on his head....

    Like I said these helmets must be made of Nerf material

  • @bjh2130 said:

    Stomping on a dude's head who is laying on the ground (no helmet because Haynesworth knocked it off) with cleats to the point he needs 30 stitches. The difference is Garrett was provoked and was still being aggressively approached while Haynesworth just stomped on a guy who wasn't doing anything but laying on the ground. Both used weapons (cleat and helmet)  to hit someone in the head.  One sent a guy to the hospital one the guy played the next snap.

    Are you actually comparing a rubber cleat to a helmet??   Doesn’t matter what the injuries were.  It’s felony assault.  There’s a reason it’s getting the attention it is right now.   It was shocking and inexcusable like Baker said. 

    @buzzsaw619 said:

    Are you actually comparing a rubber cleat to a helmet??   Doesn’t matter what the injuries were.  It’s felony assault.  There’s a reason it’s getting the attention it is right now.   It was shocking and inexcusable like Baker said. 

    bs. It is not felony assault. It is self-defense. Sissy pouty mason dumbledolph was mad at being sacked again. Miles tried desperately to sack him easily. then sissy mason tried to rip Miles' helmet off, nearly did, that had to hurt, then mason went to kick Miles in the groin like a punk, and then squealers went after Garrett, and sissy mason goes to try to punch him while Miles is being attacked by the squealer player(s), had mason's helmet, and while being attacked by the squealers, he did swing the helmet at mason to stop him from punching him in the face while being attacked by a squealer. Miles goes down, and Pouncy comes up and stops and punches Miles in the head.

        Mason doesn't get ejected? wtf?

    And I honestly don't know if they are rubber cleats - I suppose so, but it has a 330 weight behind it with FORCE. The helmet had nearly nothing on it.

    Mason even turned to the ref and acted like he didn't do anything. We'll see if the NFL will be fair in dealing out suspensions, but I have my doubts.

    the squealers have made the NFL too much money. I'll wait and see.

  • @icecube said:

    But as the commentators are saying, it could have paralysed him. Better, worse? That's like asking which is worse? Eating a turd or a live spider. And Garrett semi started it from throwing him down and laying on him when he didn't need to. Then Rudolph reacted. 

    Or as I said Mike Tomlin started it by calling a play like that with eight seconds left instead of taking a fucking knee when the game was lost. He deserves Criticism for that

    @the-gipper said:

    Or as I said Mike Tomlin started it by calling a play like that with eight seconds left instead of taking a fucking knee when the game was lost. He deserves Criticism for that

    Well, that's a whole other discussion, but a good point. Why would he call that?

  • @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    Rudolph doesn’t even have a bump on his head....

    Right, because you’re his trainer..   It doesn’t matter.  

    @buzzsaw619 said:

    Right, because you’re his trainer..   It doesn’t matter.  

    The idea of Myles Garrett swinging a helmet is why everyone is freaking out. He barely tapped the dude, and Rudolph was literally asking for it. Hopefully the NFL takes that into consideration.

  • wow rudolph said it was cowardly WOW hope the rest of the D fucks him up in 2 weeks

  • @icecube said:

    But as the commentators are saying, it could have paralysed him. Better, worse? That's like asking which is worse? Eating a turd or a live spider. And Garrett semi started it from throwing him down and laying on him when he didn't need to. Then Rudolph reacted. 

    Or as I said Mike Tomlin started it by calling a play like that with eight seconds left instead of taking a fucking knee when the game was lost. He deserves Criticism for that

    @the-gipper said:

    Or as I said Mike Tomlin started it by calling a play like that with eight seconds left instead of taking a fucking knee when the game was lost. He deserves Criticism for that

    Pretty much the perfect microcosm of today's society...... "Yea, I'm the one who screwed up, but it never woulda happened if............" 

  • wow rudolph said it was cowardly WOW hope the rest of the D fucks him up in 2 weeks

    @atom said:

    wow rudolph said it was cowardly WOW hope the rest of the D fucks him up in 2 weeks

    Yeah and he's such a coward he says Myles was talking and "kept on keeping on"... can't even admit he played a part. PUNK>.

  • @icecube said:

    But as the commentators are saying, it could have paralysed him. Better, worse? That's like asking which is worse? Eating a turd or a live spider. And Garrett semi started it from throwing him down and laying on him when he didn't need to. Then Rudolph reacted. 

    Or as I said Mike Tomlin started it by calling a play like that with eight seconds left instead of taking a fucking knee when the game was lost. He deserves Criticism for that

    @the-gipper said:

    But as the commentators are saying, it could have paralysed him. Better, worse? That's like asking which is worse? Eating a turd or a live spider. And Garrett semi started it from throwing him down and laying on him when he didn't need to. Then Rudolph reacted. 

    wrong - Garrett made sure he didn't land on punk mason. Mason tried to rip Garrett's helmet off for no freaking good reason.

    mason started it. he sucked most of the game.

  • @buzzsaw619 said:

    Right, because you’re his trainer..   It doesn’t matter.  

    The idea of Myles Garrett swinging a helmet is why everyone is freaking out. He barely tapped the dude, and Rudolph was literally asking for it. Hopefully the NFL takes that into consideration.

    @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    The idea of Myles Garrett swinging a helmet is why everyone is freaking out. He barely tapped the dude, and Rudolph was literally asking for it. Hopefully the NFL takes that into consideration.

  • @bjh2130 said:

    Do you not remember that the Haynesworth incident got this same exact fucking attention? Yeah giving someone cuts to the point they would need 30 stitches with a weapon (cleat) couldn't have felonious assault could it? Jesus man get off board. You are literally here to start stuff.

    No I’m really not.  I was just giving my unbiased opinion.  And yes I do remember that and you’re right, it did get tons of attention.  As will this.   But the injuries don’t really matter.  He clobbered a QB with his own helmet after the play was over.  To me that’s about as bad as it gets. 

    @buzzsaw619 said:

    No I’m really not.  I was just giving my unbiased opinion.  And yes I do remember that and you’re right, it did get tons of attention.  As will this.   But the injuries don’t really matter.  He clobbered a QB with his own helmet after the play was over.  To me that’s about as bad as it gets. 

    Again all I said was this was as bad as haynesworth so I look for a 5-6 game suspension.  Not that haynesworth was worse you said this was worse so I was just telling you why haynesworth was just as bad in my opinion.  If you disagree that's fine but to me both struck a player in their unprotected head with a helmet.