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  • @tour2ma said:

    Also did not start with a bat in your hands apparently...

    It started with the opposing team having one dude with a bat in his hands...... and no one picked it up and swung it. 

    One loss of control incident does not make a player dirty.

    When you hear the name Albert Haynesworth, what immediately comes to the minds of probably 99.9% of people?  (the .1% being his mom and PoG)

    @d-bone said:

    When you hear the name Albert Haynesworth, what immediately comes to the minds of probably 99.9% of people?  (the .1% being his mom and PoG)

    I think of how dan snyder really overpaid him (worst fa signing of all time)  and Haynesworth must have used all that money on food. I know you're saying people think dirty player and the stomp which I still contend was just as bad as Garrett's. The thing is though is that wasn't his only issue like that. Other things like kicking his teammate in the chest in his first training camp and the brutal dirty hit on MJD add to his rep

  • @d-bone said:

    When you hear the name Albert Haynesworth, what immediately comes to the minds of probably 99.9% of people?  (the .1% being his mom and PoG)

    I think of how dan snyder really overpaid him (worst fa signing of all time)  and Haynesworth must have used all that money on food. I know you're saying people think dirty player and the stomp which I still contend was just as bad as Garrett's. The thing is though is that wasn't his only issue like that. Other things like kicking his teammate in the chest in his first training camp and the brutal dirty hit on MJD add to his rep

    @bjh2130 said:

    I think of how dan snyder really overpaid him (worst fa signing of all time)  and Haynesworth must have used all that money on food. I know you're saying people think dirty player and the stomp which I still contend was just as bad as Garrett's. The thing is though is that wasn't his only issue like that. Other things like kicking his teammate in the chest in his first training camp and the brutal dirty hit on MJD add to his rep

    And it's different because the stomp was a cheap shot to an unsuspecting player. Myles and Rudolph were fighting for awhile before the helmet hit. It's not like Rudolph's helmet fell off and Garrett smashed him when he wasn't looking. It was a fight that got out of hand, not a gutless cheap shot. 

    That's what makes it different from the McSorely cheap shot in hockey all those years ago. He hit him in the head from behind when he had no idea he was coming. Completely different situation

  • @buzzsaw619 said:

    Tapped?   Wow.   And asking for it?   A retaliatory punch...sure.  Smacking him with his own helmet.   Never.    I’m not sure excusing Garret’s conduct is the right angle to take on this as a fan base.  

    Charging a fully grown man who just ripped your helmet off right after you tried to rip his helmet off and kick him in the NUTs, is asking for IT, my friend.

    Rudolph is LUCKY Garrett didn’t use his fists, clearly. 

    @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    Charging a fully grown man who just ripped your helmet off right after you tried to rip his helmet off and kick him in the NUTs, is asking for IT, my friend.

    Rudolph is LUCKY Garrett didn’t use his fists, clearly. 

    The  irony is  if Garrett HAD just  dropped the  helmet and gone the good  old fist  fight route, he probably would  only have gotten  three  games  like Pouncey.

  • @tour2ma said:

    One loss of control incident does not make a player dirty.
     

    Right, and he's been making late/dirty hits all season. 

    @icecube said:

    Right, and he's been making late/dirty hits all season. 

    All season???

    image.thumb.png.518bd3cef1c40fd7ca1d1e7495ccbfc5.png

    Facts are stubborn things... so you'd better make up better ones in the future.

  • @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    Charging a fully grown man who just ripped your helmet off right after you tried to rip his helmet off and kick him in the NUTs, is asking for IT, my friend.

    Rudolph is LUCKY Garrett didn’t use his fists, clearly. 

    The  irony is  if Garrett HAD just  dropped the  helmet and gone the good  old fist  fight route, he probably would  only have gotten  three  games  like Pouncey.

    @hoorta said:

    The  irony is  if Garrett HAD just  dropped the  helmet and gone the good  old fist  fight route, he probably would  only have gotten  three  games  like Pouncey.

    Actually, the real irony is that if Garrett had dropped the helmet and gone the good old fist fight route....he would inflicted far more harm on Maya than he did with the helmet.  Again...see Rudolph's reaction....he was more startled than hurt. Foam padding is all that came in contact with him. 

  • @icecube said:

    Right, and he's been making late/dirty hits all season. 

    All season???

    image.thumb.png.518bd3cef1c40fd7ca1d1e7495ccbfc5.png

    Facts are stubborn things... so you'd better make up better ones in the future.

    @tour2ma said:

    All season???

    image.thumb.png.518bd3cef1c40fd7ca1d1e7495ccbfc5.png

    Facts are stubborn things... so you'd better make up better ones in the future.

    Thanks for proving I was right. 

  • @icecube said:

    Right, and he's been making late/dirty hits all season. 

    He has one other "dirty" play, the punch or slap or whatever to delanie Walker.  All of his roughing the passer penalties are for falling on the quarterback to hard.

    @bjh2130 said:

    He has one other "dirty" play, the punch or slap or whatever to delanie Walker.  All of his roughing the passer penalties are for falling on the quarterback to hard.

    Yea, which is a penalty for dirty play. 

  • @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    Charging a fully grown man who just ripped your helmet off right after you tried to rip his helmet off and kick him in the NUTs, is asking for IT, my friend.

    Rudolph is LUCKY Garrett didn’t use his fists, clearly. 

    The  irony is  if Garrett HAD just  dropped the  helmet and gone the good  old fist  fight route, he probably would  only have gotten  three  games  like Pouncey.

    @hoorta said:

    The  irony is  if Garrett HAD just  dropped the  helmet and gone the good  old fist  fight route, he probably would  only have gotten  three  games  like Pouncey.

    And why a 270 lb DE felt the need to use a weapon vs. a QB is beyond me. That's like saying if your 5-year old nephew came at you and you used a baseball bat to hit him. That's the part of all this that he will never escape from ridicule: He needed a weapon when a QB was rushing at him. 

  • @bjh2130 said:

    He has one other "dirty" play, the punch or slap or whatever to delanie Walker.  All of his roughing the passer penalties are for falling on the quarterback to hard.

    Yea, which is a penalty for dirty play. 

    @icecube said:

    Yea, which is a penalty for dirty play. 

    Falling on the quarterback to hard is not a dirty play

  • @icecube said:

    Yea, which is a penalty for dirty play. 

    Falling on the quarterback to hard is not a dirty play

    @bjh2130 said:

    Falling on the quarterback to hard is not a dirty play

    Then why is it in the rule book?

  • @bjh2130 said:

    Falling on the quarterback to hard is not a dirty play

    Then why is it in the rule book?

    @icecube said:

    Then why is it in the rule book?

    Because they have went to great lengths to protect qbs. So is holding a dirty play or false starting? How about not snapping the ball in time? Those are all in the rule book. Not all penalties are dirty plays. In your mind there must not be a non dirty player in the league.

  • @icecube said:

    Then why is it in the rule book?

    Because they have went to great lengths to protect qbs. So is holding a dirty play or false starting? How about not snapping the ball in time? Those are all in the rule book. Not all penalties are dirty plays. In your mind there must not be a non dirty player in the league.

    @bjh2130 said:

    Because they have went to great lengths to protect qbs. So is holding a dirty play or false starting? How about not snapping the ball in time? Those are all in the rule book. Not all penalties are dirty plays.

    But using your full body weight to smash a QB into the ground (OFTEN THE CAUSE OF INJURIES) is a dirty foul. It ends up breaking collar bones. 

  • @tour2ma said:

    All season???

    image.thumb.png.518bd3cef1c40fd7ca1d1e7495ccbfc5.png

    Facts are stubborn things... so you'd better make up better ones in the future.

    Thanks for proving I was right. 

    @icecube said:

    Thanks for proving I was right. 

    Really? That's all you got?

    Especially since what I posted showed how dead wrong you were.

  • @tour2ma said:

    One loss of control incident does not make a player dirty.
     

    Right, and he's been making late/dirty hits all season. 

    @icecube said:

    Right, and he's been making late/dirty hits all season. 

    ...that's objective.

  • @bjh2130 said:

    Because they have went to great lengths to protect qbs. So is holding a dirty play or false starting? How about not snapping the ball in time? Those are all in the rule book. Not all penalties are dirty plays.

    But using your full body weight to smash a QB into the ground (OFTEN THE CAUSE OF INJURIES) is a dirty foul. It ends up breaking collar bones. 

    @icecube said:

    But using your full body weight to smash a QB into the ground (OFTEN THE CAUSE OF INJURIES) is a dirty foul. It ends up breaking collar bones. 

    Seriously, get over yourself.

    Almost all of those "dirty" penalties Myles collected for falling on the QB with his weight was a TEXTBOOK tackle for 100 years of football. The one he got on Roethlisberger last season was exactly how I taught 11 and 12 year olds how to tackle a decade ago when I coached. How a defensive player is supposed to tackle a QB from straight ahead and NOT fall on him is beyond me. 

  • @icecube said:

    But using your full body weight to smash a QB into the ground (OFTEN THE CAUSE OF INJURIES) is a dirty foul. It ends up breaking collar bones. 

    Seriously, get over yourself.

    Almost all of those "dirty" penalties Myles collected for falling on the QB with his weight was a TEXTBOOK tackle for 100 years of football. The one he got on Roethlisberger last season was exactly how I taught 11 and 12 year olds how to tackle a decade ago when I coached. How a defensive player is supposed to tackle a QB from straight ahead and NOT fall on him is beyond me. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Seriously, get over yourself.

    Almost all of those "dirty" penalties Myles collected for falling on the QB with his weight was a TEXTBOOK tackle for 100 years of football. The one he got on Roethlisberger last season was exactly how I taught 11 and 12 year olds how to tackle a decade ago when I coached. How a defensive player is supposed to tackle a QB from straight ahead and NOT fall on him is beyond me. 

    No Dutch. Don't you get it? Obviously if you don't learn to levitate and defy gravity you're just dirty cheap shot artist. 

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Seriously, get over yourself.

    Almost all of those "dirty" penalties Myles collected for falling on the QB with his weight was a TEXTBOOK tackle for 100 years of football. The one he got on Roethlisberger last season was exactly how I taught 11 and 12 year olds how to tackle a decade ago when I coached. How a defensive player is supposed to tackle a QB from straight ahead and NOT fall on him is beyond me. 

    No Dutch. Don't you get it? Obviously if you don't learn to levitate and defy gravity you're just dirty cheap shot artist. 

    @bjh2130 said:

    No Dutch. Don't you get it? Obviously if you don't learn to levitate and defy gravity you're just dirty cheap shot artist. 

    I thought that Myles wrapping up and pulling him down upon himself was a pretty nice way of putting the pussy down. Mason after back to back sacks obviously wasn't in the mood for thirds...

  • @bjh2130 said:

    No Dutch. Don't you get it? Obviously if you don't learn to levitate and defy gravity you're just dirty cheap shot artist. 

    I thought that Myles wrapping up and pulling him down upon himself was a pretty nice way of putting the pussy down. Mason after back to back sacks obviously wasn't in the mood for thirds...

    @poeticg said:

    I thought that Myles wrapping up and pulling him down upon himself was a pretty nice way of putting the pussy down. Mason after back to back sacks obviously wasn't in the mood for thirds...

    Oh that one absolutely was. Myles was trying to protect him on the hit.  He didn't even explode and try to lay the wood like he could have originally because Garrett knew it was a meaningless play.  He put his helmet in his chest wrapped him up and turned him to take him down. I was facetiously referring to ice cube saying Garrett's hits on the jets qbs were dirty this year.

  • sissy mason was just throwing a temper tantrum because the refs didn't make Miles stop sacking him.

    the squealers have been getting carried away with their ref favoritism going ons.

    and Goodhell doesn't hold the refs accountable.

  • It's such an undertaking for Myles to even get to the QB because of the constant holding. I would be surprised if he isn't held to an extent that warrants a flag 60 percent of the time. So when he does get there he's got to take the shot, not a dirty shot but a QB hit, to make his presence felt. The Jets QB just had a bad landing, similar to Njoku's hit that caused him to miss the last 8 games. You pay these guys to make sacks, hurries, QB hits and pressures... Roughing the passer is completely subjective in some cases.