WEEK 12 - BROWNS and NFL injury report and other news in the AFCN and league, MIA +10' at CLE
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And...... (even though I'm sick of this topic)
The 4-6 Cleveland Browns won their second straight game on Thursday night. However, a massive fight broke out in the dying seconds and star defensive end Myles Garrett wound up ripping the helmet off Pittsburgh QB Mason Rudolph and using it like a mace to hit Rudolph in the head.
To no one’s surprise, Garrett has been suspended for the remainder of the season (including playoffs) for the unprecedented incident.
Now the Browns are seemingly back in playoff and AFC North contention with an easy schedule upcoming, but will have to continue their winning streak without their best defender. Are they worth a look in the AFC North odds?
2019 AFC North Odds
Team Odds at BetOnline Baltimore Ravens -800 Pittsburgh Steelers +700 Cleveland Browns +1200 Odds taken November 15.
Browns Beat Steelers But Garrett Suspended
On Thursday, the Browns did something the franchise had never done before: beat the Baltimore Ravens and Pittsburgh Steelers in the same season. But the win was blemished by the aforementioned fight between Garrett and Rudolph.
Garrett actually connected flush on Rudolph’s head and he’s lucky that there was no damage – at least no visible damage. The incident was so ugly that talking heads (and teams) have discussed taking legal action.
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And from Vegas insider which I prefer.....
ODDS TO WIN 2019-20 AFC EAST (12/29/19)Team Odds New England Patriots 1/50 Buffalo Bills 15/1 New York Jets 1000/1 Miami Dolphins 2000/1 ODDS TO WIN 2019-20 AFC NORTH (12/29/19)Team Odds Baltimore Ravens 1/8 Pittsburgh Steelers 6/1 Cleveland Browns 20/1 <--- the BROWNS have wins over the above -
Browns 10 1/2 point favorites @ Miami is a huge line for an away team with two DL defenders missing.
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Browns 10 1/2 point favorites @ Miami is a huge line for an away team with two DL defenders missing.
Browns 10 1/2 point favorites @ Miami is a huge line for an away team with two DL defenders missing.
Yes and they opened up at 9 point favorites, after the game the line actually went up.
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Browns 10 1/2 point favorites @ Miami is a huge line for an away team with two DL defenders missing.
Browns 10 1/2 point favorites @ Miami is a huge line for an away team with two DL defenders missing.
Except, the Browns play at home.
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Browns 10 1/2 point favorites @ Miami is a huge line for an away team with two DL defenders missing.
Except, the Browns play at home.
Except, the Browns play at home.
My bad. That makes about a 3 point difference. Still pretty stout with those players and the starting S and maybe even Vernon missing.
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Except, the Browns play at home.
My bad. That makes about a 3 point difference. Still pretty stout with those players and the starting S and maybe even Vernon missing.
My bad. That makes about a 3 point difference. Still pretty stout with those players and the starting S and maybe even Vernon missing.
I can't imagine a double digit victory, but lord knows I'd love to see it! I just don't see us getting pressure without Garrett, and I don't think it looks good for Vernon. Hope I'm wrong!
I will say that it's past time for an offensive explosion. That would be JUST what the doctor ordered.
Edit: Kitchens just said Vernon would be "very close" to returning Sunday. CMON BUDDY!
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My bad. That makes about a 3 point difference. Still pretty stout with those players and the starting S and maybe even Vernon missing.
I can't imagine a double digit victory, but lord knows I'd love to see it! I just don't see us getting pressure without Garrett, and I don't think it looks good for Vernon. Hope I'm wrong!
I will say that it's past time for an offensive explosion. That would be JUST what the doctor ordered.
Edit: Kitchens just said Vernon would be "very close" to returning Sunday. CMON BUDDY!
I can't imagine a double digit victory, but lord knows I'd love to see it! I just don't see us getting pressure without Garrett, and I don't think it looks good for Vernon. Hope I'm wrong!
Hey they did whack the birds and the steelrz......just sayin'.
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- I watch everything this guy puts out because the QB details are more than any other channel I've yet found. I have never in my life learned more about the nuances of QB play: what drops from center should look like, eye/head placement with telestrator corrections and explanations of ideal - etc - than during this vid.Short summary: There's a few reasons Kaep's last two full seasons in the league were PFF under 60..
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Don't we get our TE back?
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TUESDAY EARLY AM report, subject to changes.
Cleveland Browns NAME STATUS DATE David Njoku, TE Injury Reserve Nov 18 Comment: Coach Freddie Kitchens said he expects Njoku (wrist) to resume practicing with the team Wednesday, Scott Petrak of the Elyria Chronicle-Telegram reports. Olivier Vernon, DE Out Nov 18 Comment: Vernon (knee) is not present at Monday's practice, Mary Kay Cabot of The Cleveland Plain Dealer reports. Eric Murray, S Out Nov 18 Comment: out Kendall Lamm, OT Out Nov 18 Comment: out Morgan Burnett, S Out Nov 16 Comment: Burnett will miss the rest of the season with a torn Achilles, Nate Ulrich of the Akron Beacon Journal reports. Myles Garrett, DE Suspension Nov 15 Comment: Garrett has been suspended indefinitely -- "at a minimum for the remainder of the regular season and postseason," per NFL Senior VP of Football & International Communications Michael Signora. Larry Ogunjobi, DT Suspension Nov 15 Comment: Ogunjobi notched one solo tackle -- his fifth sack of the season -- during Thursday's 21-7 win over the Steelers.
Miami Dolphins NAME STATUS DATE Ken Webster, CB Out Nov 18 Comment: out Raekwon McMillan, LB Out Nov 18 Comment: out Taco Charlton, DE Out Nov 18 Comment: out Bobby McCain, S Questionable Nov 17 Comment: McCain (shoulder) is questionable to return to Sunday's game against the Bills, Armando Salguero of the Miami Herald reports. Gary Jennings, WR Questionable Nov 17 Comment: Jennings (shoulder) is out for the remainder of Sunday's game against the Bills, Armando Salguero of the Miami Herald reports. -
WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON REPORT hey ESPN changed their screen presentation a bit, easier to read there.
Cleveland BrownsNAME POS DATE STATUS COMMENT Joel Bitonio G Nov 20 Questionable Jarvis Landry WR Nov 20 Questionable Landry was limited in Wednesday's practice due to a hip injury, Nate Ulrich of the Akron Beacon Journal reports. Odell Beckham Jr. WR Nov 20 Questionable Beckham was limited in Wednesday's practice due to a groin injury, Nate Ulrich of the Akron Beacon Journal reports. Olivier Vernon DE Nov 20 Questionable Vernon (knee) is not participating in Wednesday's practice, Nate Ulrich of the Akron Beacon Journal reports. Eric Murray S Nov 19 Doubtful Kendall Lamm OT Nov 19 Questionable
Miami DolphinsNAME POS DATE STATUS COMMENT Julie'n Davenport OT Nov 20 Questionable Ryan Fitzpatrick QB Nov 20 Questionable Fitzpatrick was limited in Wednesday's practice due to right shoulder and forearm injuries, Adam H. Beasley of the Miami Herald reports. Reshad Jones S Nov 20 Injured Reserve Jones (undisclosed) was placed on injured reserve Wednesday, Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald reports. Bobby McCain S Nov 20 Injured Reserve McCain (shoulder) was placed on injured reserve Wednesday. Gary Jennings WR Nov 20 Injured Reserve The Dolphins are placing Jennings (shoulder) on injured reserve, Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald reports. Ken Webster CB Nov 19 Questionable Raekwon McMillan LB Nov 19 Questionable Taco Charlton DE Nov 19 Questionable -
THURSDAY MORNING EARLY injury report nothing new on the BROWNS or Dolphins but always lurking on the horizon in the swamp......
Pittsburgh SteelersNAME POS DATE STATUS COMMENT Nick Vannett TE Nov 20 Questionable Vannett (illness) didn't practice Wednesday, Teresa Varley of the Steelers' official site reports. James Conner RB Nov 20 Questionable Conner (shoulder) didn't practice Wednesday, Teresa Varley of the Steelers' official site reports. Diontae Johnson WR Nov 20 Questionable Johnson (concussion) was listed as a full practice participant Wednesday, Teresa Varley of the Steelers' official site reports. Bud Dupree LB Nov 20 Questionable JuJu Smith-Schuster WR Nov 20 Questionable Smith-Schuster (knee/concussion) isn't expected to play Sunday against the Bengals, Jeremy Fowler of ESPN.com reports. Anthony Chickillo LB Nov 19 Questionable GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND! -
And on November 21, 2019 the big picture, oh Cleveland and Pittsburgh are both 100/1.
ODDS TO WIN 2019-20 SUPER BOWL LIV (2/2/20)Team Odds New England Patriots 14/5 New Orleans Saints 4/1 Baltimore Ravens 9/2 San Francisco 49ers 8/1 Kansas City Chiefs 9/1 Green Bay Packers 12/1 Minnesota Vikings 14/1 Seattle Seahawks 16/1 Dallas Cowboys 20/1 GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND! -
THURSDAY MORNING EARLY injury report nothing new on the BROWNS or Dolphins but always lurking on the horizon in the swamp......
Pittsburgh SteelersNAME POS DATE STATUS COMMENT Nick Vannett TE Nov 20 Questionable Vannett (illness) didn't practice Wednesday, Teresa Varley of the Steelers' official site reports. James Conner RB Nov 20 Questionable Conner (shoulder) didn't practice Wednesday, Teresa Varley of the Steelers' official site reports. Diontae Johnson WR Nov 20 Questionable Johnson (concussion) was listed as a full practice participant Wednesday, Teresa Varley of the Steelers' official site reports. Bud Dupree LB Nov 20 Questionable JuJu Smith-Schuster WR Nov 20 Questionable Smith-Schuster (knee/concussion) isn't expected to play Sunday against the Bengals, Jeremy Fowler of ESPN.com reports. Anthony Chickillo LB Nov 19 Questionable THURSDAY MORNING EARLY injury report nothing new on the BROWNS or Dolphins but always lurking on the horizon in the swamp......
Pittsburgh SteelersNAME POS DATE STATUS COMMENT Nick Vannett TE Nov 20 Questionable Vannett (illness) didn't practice Wednesday, Teresa Varley of the Steelers' official site reports. James Conner RB Nov 20 Questionable Conner (shoulder) didn't practice Wednesday, Teresa Varley of the Steelers' official site reports. Diontae Johnson WR Nov 20 Questionable Johnson (concussion) was listed as a full practice participant Wednesday, Teresa Varley of the Steelers' official site reports. Bud Dupree LB Nov 20 Questionable JuJu Smith-Schuster WR Nov 20 Questionable Smith-Schuster (knee/concussion) isn't expected to play Sunday against the Bengals, Jeremy Fowler of ESPN.com reports. Anthony Chickillo LB Nov 19 Questionable Even without these guys, I would still expect the Steelers to win on the strength of their defense alone. But, one can always hope.
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And on November 21, 2019 the big picture, oh Cleveland and Pittsburgh are both 100/1.
ODDS TO WIN 2019-20 SUPER BOWL LIV (2/2/20)Team Odds New England Patriots 14/5 New Orleans Saints 4/1 Baltimore Ravens 9/2 San Francisco 49ers 8/1 Kansas City Chiefs 9/1 Green Bay Packers 12/1 Minnesota Vikings 14/1 Seattle Seahawks 16/1 Dallas Cowboys 20/1 And on November 21, 2019 the big picture, oh Cleveland and Pittsburgh are both 100/1.
ODDS TO WIN 2019-20 SUPER BOWL LIV (2/2/20)Team Odds New England Patriots 14/5 New Orleans Saints 4/1 Baltimore Ravens 9/2 San Francisco 49ers 8/1 Kansas City Chiefs 9/1 Green Bay Packers 12/1 Minnesota Vikings 14/1 Seattle Seahawks 16/1 Dallas Cowboys 20/1 I will be checking into a resort in Las Vegas the day of the Super Bowl. I will be driving in from Sedona that day, but expect to be in my condo unit before that game starts. Don't know that I will be able to plop down a wager on the game, as I am not sure where a sports book may be there near where I will be staying.
So, OK, Kenny Rogers....I will be staying at a place on West Tropicana Ave. (about 3 miles west of I-15) Where is the nearest sports book I can go to to put like $5.00 down on the game?
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And on November 21, 2019 the big picture, oh Cleveland and Pittsburgh are both 100/1.
ODDS TO WIN 2019-20 SUPER BOWL LIV (2/2/20)Team Odds New England Patriots 14/5 New Orleans Saints 4/1 Baltimore Ravens 9/2 San Francisco 49ers 8/1 Kansas City Chiefs 9/1 Green Bay Packers 12/1 Minnesota Vikings 14/1 Seattle Seahawks 16/1 Dallas Cowboys 20/1 I will be checking into a resort in Las Vegas the day of the Super Bowl. I will be driving in from Sedona that day, but expect to be in my condo unit before that game starts. Don't know that I will be able to plop down a wager on the game, as I am not sure where a sports book may be there near where I will be staying.
So, OK, Kenny Rogers....I will be staying at a place on West Tropicana Ave. (about 3 miles west of I-15) Where is the nearest sports book I can go to to put like $5.00 down on the game?
I will be checking into a resort in Las Vegas the day of the Super Bowl. I will be driving in from Sedona that day, but expect to be in my condo unit before that game starts. Don't know that I will be able to plop down a wager on the game, as I am not sure where a sports book may be there near where I will be staying.
So, OK, Kenny Rogers....I will be staying at a place on West Tropicana Ave. (about 3 miles west of I-15) Where is the nearest sports book I can go to to put like $5.00 down on the game?
$10 or more is the usual minimum last time I knew. Go up N. to W. Flamingo and take a right going E. You will find the Rio and The Palms across from it. Both have sports books.
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I will be checking into a resort in Las Vegas the day of the Super Bowl. I will be driving in from Sedona that day, but expect to be in my condo unit before that game starts. Don't know that I will be able to plop down a wager on the game, as I am not sure where a sports book may be there near where I will be staying.
So, OK, Kenny Rogers....I will be staying at a place on West Tropicana Ave. (about 3 miles west of I-15) Where is the nearest sports book I can go to to put like $5.00 down on the game?
$10 or more is the usual minimum last time I knew. Go up N. to W. Flamingo and take a right going E. You will find the Rio and The Palms across from it. Both have sports books.
$10 or more is the usual minimum last time I knew. Go up N. to W. Flamingo and take a right going E. You will find the Rio and The Palms across from it. Both have sports books.
OK, Ten bucks. (I didn't have to do that much in either Tahoe or Wendover when I was in those places)
But I did check out a map.....both the Excalibur and the NYNY are just down the road, about equidistant.....but, parking issues with those? As for that it would probably just be a run in, make the bet, run out situation.
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And on November 21, 2019 the big picture, oh Cleveland and Pittsburgh are both 100/1.
ODDS TO WIN 2019-20 SUPER BOWL LIV (2/2/20)Team Odds New England Patriots 14/5 New Orleans Saints 4/1 Baltimore Ravens 9/2 San Francisco 49ers 8/1 Kansas City Chiefs 9/1 Green Bay Packers 12/1 Minnesota Vikings 14/1 Seattle Seahawks 16/1 Dallas Cowboys 20/1 I will be checking into a resort in Las Vegas the day of the Super Bowl. I will be driving in from Sedona that day, but expect to be in my condo unit before that game starts. Don't know that I will be able to plop down a wager on the game, as I am not sure where a sports book may be there near where I will be staying.
So, OK, Kenny Rogers....I will be staying at a place on West Tropicana Ave. (about 3 miles west of I-15) Where is the nearest sports book I can go to to put like $5.00 down on the game?
I will be checking into a resort in Las Vegas the day of the Super Bowl. I will be driving in from Sedona that day, but expect to be in my condo unit before that game starts. Don't know that I will be able to plop down a wager on the game, as I am not sure where a sports book may be there near where I will be staying.
So, OK, Kenny Rogers....I will be staying at a place on West Tropicana Ave. (about 3 miles west of I-15) Where is the nearest sports book I can go to to put like $5.00 down on the game?
$5.00 the parking attendant.
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I will be checking into a resort in Las Vegas the day of the Super Bowl. I will be driving in from Sedona that day, but expect to be in my condo unit before that game starts. Don't know that I will be able to plop down a wager on the game, as I am not sure where a sports book may be there near where I will be staying.
So, OK, Kenny Rogers....I will be staying at a place on West Tropicana Ave. (about 3 miles west of I-15) Where is the nearest sports book I can go to to put like $5.00 down on the game?
$10 or more is the usual minimum last time I knew. Go up N. to W. Flamingo and take a right going E. You will find the Rio and The Palms across from it. Both have sports books.
$10 or more is the usual minimum last time I knew. Go up N. to W. Flamingo and take a right going E. You will find the Rio and The Palms across from it. Both have sports books.
Yes and tell Diamond Jim there it is 2019 not 1880.
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