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WEEK 12 - BROWNS and NFL injury report and other news in the AFCN and league, MIA +10' at CLE

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  • T TexasAg1969

    Browns 10 1/2 point favorites @ Miami is a huge line for an away team with two DL defenders missing.

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    @texasag1969 said:

    Browns 10 1/2 point favorites @ Miami is a huge line for an away team with two DL defenders missing.

    Except, the Browns play at home. 

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      @texasag1969 said:

      Browns 10 1/2 point favorites @ Miami is a huge line for an away team with two DL defenders missing.

      Except, the Browns play at home. 

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      @the-gipper said:

      Except, the Browns play at home. 

      My bad. That makes about a 3 point difference. Still pretty stout with those players and the starting S and maybe even Vernon missing.

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        @the-gipper said:

        Except, the Browns play at home. 

        My bad. That makes about a 3 point difference. Still pretty stout with those players and the starting S and maybe even Vernon missing.

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        @texasag1969 said:

        My bad. That makes about a 3 point difference. Still pretty stout with those players and the starting S and maybe even Vernon missing.

        I can't imagine a double digit victory, but lord knows I'd love to see it! I just don't see us getting pressure without Garrett, and I don't think it looks good for Vernon. Hope I'm wrong! 

        I will say that it's past time for an offensive explosion. That would be JUST what the doctor ordered. 

        Edit:  Kitchens just said Vernon would be "very close" to returning Sunday. CMON BUDDY! 

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          @texasag1969 said:

          My bad. That makes about a 3 point difference. Still pretty stout with those players and the starting S and maybe even Vernon missing.

          I can't imagine a double digit victory, but lord knows I'd love to see it! I just don't see us getting pressure without Garrett, and I don't think it looks good for Vernon. Hope I'm wrong! 

          I will say that it's past time for an offensive explosion. That would be JUST what the doctor ordered. 

          Edit:  Kitchens just said Vernon would be "very close" to returning Sunday. CMON BUDDY! 

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          @jiggins7919 said:

          I can't imagine a double digit victory, but lord knows I'd love to see it! I just don't see us getting pressure without Garrett, and I don't think it looks good for Vernon. Hope I'm wrong! 

          Hey they did whack the birds and the steelrz......just sayin'.  😉

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             - I watch everything this guy puts out because the QB details are more than any other channel I've yet found. I have never in my life learned more about the nuances of QB play: what drops from center should look like, eye/head placement with telestrator corrections and explanations of ideal - etc - than during this vid.

            Short summary: There's a few reasons Kaep's last two full seasons in the league were PFF under 60..

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              Don't we get our TE back?

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                TUESDAY EARLY AM report, subject to changes.

                Cleveland Browns
                NAME STATUS DATE
                David Njoku, TE Injury Reserve Nov 18
                Comment: Coach Freddie Kitchens said he expects Njoku (wrist) to resume practicing with the team Wednesday, Scott Petrak of the Elyria Chronicle-Telegram reports.
                Olivier Vernon, DE Out Nov 18
                Comment: Vernon (knee) is not present at Monday's practice, Mary Kay Cabot of The Cleveland Plain Dealer reports.
                Eric Murray, S Out Nov 18
                Comment: out
                Kendall Lamm, OT Out Nov 18
                Comment: out
                Morgan Burnett, S Out Nov 16
                Comment: Burnett will miss the rest of the season with a torn Achilles, Nate Ulrich of the Akron Beacon Journal reports.
                Myles Garrett, DE Suspension Nov 15
                Comment: Garrett has been suspended indefinitely -- "at a minimum for the remainder of the regular season and postseason," per NFL Senior VP of Football & International Communications Michael Signora.
                Larry Ogunjobi, DT Suspension Nov 15

                Comment: Ogunjobi notched one solo tackle -- his fifth sack of the season -- during Thursday's 21-7 win over the Steelers.

                Miami Dolphins
                NAME STATUS DATE
                Ken Webster, CB Out Nov 18
                Comment: out
                Raekwon McMillan, LB Out Nov 18
                Comment: out
                Taco Charlton, DE Out Nov 18
                Comment: out
                Bobby McCain, S Questionable Nov 17
                Comment: McCain (shoulder) is questionable to return to Sunday's game against the Bills, Armando Salguero of the Miami Herald reports.
                Gary Jennings, WR Questionable Nov 17
                Comment: Jennings (shoulder) is out for the remainder of Sunday's game against the Bills, Armando Salguero of the Miami Herald reports.
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                  WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON REPORT hey ESPN changed their screen presentation a bit, easier to read there.

                  Cleveland Browns
                   
                  NAME POS DATE STATUS COMMENT
                  Joel Bitonio G Nov 20 Questionable  
                  Jarvis Landry WR Nov 20 Questionable Landry was limited in Wednesday's practice due to a hip injury, Nate Ulrich of the Akron Beacon Journal reports.
                  Odell Beckham Jr. WR Nov 20 Questionable Beckham was limited in Wednesday's practice due to a groin injury, Nate Ulrich of the Akron Beacon Journal reports.
                  Olivier Vernon DE Nov 20 Questionable Vernon (knee) is not participating in Wednesday's practice, Nate Ulrich of the Akron Beacon Journal reports.
                  Eric Murray S Nov 19 Doubtful  
                  Kendall Lamm OT Nov 19

                  Questionable

                  Miami Dolphins
                   
                  NAME POS DATE STATUS COMMENT
                  Julie'n Davenport OT Nov 20 Questionable  
                  Ryan Fitzpatrick QB Nov 20 Questionable Fitzpatrick was limited in Wednesday's practice due to right shoulder and forearm injuries, Adam H. Beasley of the Miami Herald reports.
                  Reshad Jones S Nov 20 Injured Reserve Jones (undisclosed) was placed on injured reserve Wednesday, Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald reports.
                  Bobby McCain S Nov 20 Injured Reserve McCain (shoulder) was placed on injured reserve Wednesday.
                  Gary Jennings WR Nov 20 Injured Reserve The Dolphins are placing Jennings (shoulder) on injured reserve, Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald reports.
                  Ken Webster CB Nov 19 Questionable  
                  Raekwon McMillan LB Nov 19 Questionable  
                  Taco Charlton DE Nov 19 Questionable
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                    THURSDAY MORNING EARLY injury report nothing new on the BROWNS or Dolphins but always lurking on the horizon in the swamp......

                    Pittsburgh Steelers
                     
                    NAME POS DATE STATUS COMMENT
                    Nick Vannett TE Nov 20 Questionable Vannett (illness) didn't practice Wednesday, Teresa Varley of the Steelers' official site reports.
                    James Conner RB Nov 20 Questionable Conner (shoulder) didn't practice Wednesday, Teresa Varley of the Steelers' official site reports.
                    Diontae Johnson WR Nov 20 Questionable Johnson (concussion) was listed as a full practice participant Wednesday, Teresa Varley of the Steelers' official site reports.
                    Bud Dupree LB Nov 20 Questionable  
                    JuJu Smith-Schuster WR Nov 20 Questionable Smith-Schuster (knee/concussion) isn't expected to play Sunday against the Bengals, Jeremy Fowler of ESPN.com reports.
                    Anthony Chickillo LB Nov 19 Questionable
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                      And on November 21, 2019 the big picture, oh Cleveland and Pittsburgh are both 100/1.

                      ODDS TO WIN 2019-20 SUPER BOWL LIV (2/2/20)
                      Team Odds
                      New England Patriots 14/5
                      New Orleans Saints 4/1
                      Baltimore Ravens 9/2
                      San Francisco 49ers 8/1
                      Kansas City Chiefs 9/1
                      Green Bay Packers 12/1
                      Minnesota Vikings 14/1
                      Seattle Seahawks 16/1
                      Dallas Cowboys 20/1
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                        THURSDAY MORNING EARLY injury report nothing new on the BROWNS or Dolphins but always lurking on the horizon in the swamp......

                        Pittsburgh Steelers
                         
                        NAME POS DATE STATUS COMMENT
                        Nick Vannett TE Nov 20 Questionable Vannett (illness) didn't practice Wednesday, Teresa Varley of the Steelers' official site reports.
                        James Conner RB Nov 20 Questionable Conner (shoulder) didn't practice Wednesday, Teresa Varley of the Steelers' official site reports.
                        Diontae Johnson WR Nov 20 Questionable Johnson (concussion) was listed as a full practice participant Wednesday, Teresa Varley of the Steelers' official site reports.
                        Bud Dupree LB Nov 20 Questionable  
                        JuJu Smith-Schuster WR Nov 20 Questionable Smith-Schuster (knee/concussion) isn't expected to play Sunday against the Bengals, Jeremy Fowler of ESPN.com reports.
                        Anthony Chickillo LB Nov 19 Questionable
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                        @mjp28 said:

                        THURSDAY MORNING EARLY injury report nothing new on the BROWNS or Dolphins but always lurking on the horizon in the swamp......

                        Pittsburgh Steelers
                         
                        NAME POS DATE STATUS COMMENT
                        Nick Vannett TE Nov 20 Questionable Vannett (illness) didn't practice Wednesday, Teresa Varley of the Steelers' official site reports.
                        James Conner RB Nov 20 Questionable Conner (shoulder) didn't practice Wednesday, Teresa Varley of the Steelers' official site reports.
                        Diontae Johnson WR Nov 20 Questionable Johnson (concussion) was listed as a full practice participant Wednesday, Teresa Varley of the Steelers' official site reports.
                        Bud Dupree LB Nov 20 Questionable  
                        JuJu Smith-Schuster WR Nov 20 Questionable Smith-Schuster (knee/concussion) isn't expected to play Sunday against the Bengals, Jeremy Fowler of ESPN.com reports.
                        Anthony Chickillo LB Nov 19 Questionable

                        Even without these guys, I would still expect the Steelers to win on the strength of their defense alone.  But, one can always hope. 

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                          And on November 21, 2019 the big picture, oh Cleveland and Pittsburgh are both 100/1.

                          ODDS TO WIN 2019-20 SUPER BOWL LIV (2/2/20)
                          Team Odds
                          New England Patriots 14/5
                          New Orleans Saints 4/1
                          Baltimore Ravens 9/2
                          San Francisco 49ers 8/1
                          Kansas City Chiefs 9/1
                          Green Bay Packers 12/1
                          Minnesota Vikings 14/1
                          Seattle Seahawks 16/1
                          Dallas Cowboys 20/1
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                          @mjp28 said:

                          And on November 21, 2019 the big picture, oh Cleveland and Pittsburgh are both 100/1.

                          ODDS TO WIN 2019-20 SUPER BOWL LIV (2/2/20)
                          Team Odds
                          New England Patriots 14/5
                          New Orleans Saints 4/1
                          Baltimore Ravens 9/2
                          San Francisco 49ers 8/1
                          Kansas City Chiefs 9/1
                          Green Bay Packers 12/1
                          Minnesota Vikings 14/1
                          Seattle Seahawks 16/1
                          Dallas Cowboys 20/1

                          I will be checking into a resort in Las Vegas the day of the Super Bowl.  I will be driving in from Sedona that day, but expect to be in my condo unit before that game starts.  Don't know that I will be able to plop down a wager on the game, as I am not sure where a sports book may be there near where I will be staying.

                          So, OK, Kenny Rogers....I will be staying at a place on West Tropicana Ave. (about 3 miles west of I-15)   Where is the nearest sports book I can go to to put like $5.00 down on the game? 

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                            @mjp28 said:

                            And on November 21, 2019 the big picture, oh Cleveland and Pittsburgh are both 100/1.

                            ODDS TO WIN 2019-20 SUPER BOWL LIV (2/2/20)
                            Team Odds
                            New England Patriots 14/5
                            New Orleans Saints 4/1
                            Baltimore Ravens 9/2
                            San Francisco 49ers 8/1
                            Kansas City Chiefs 9/1
                            Green Bay Packers 12/1
                            Minnesota Vikings 14/1
                            Seattle Seahawks 16/1
                            Dallas Cowboys 20/1

                            I will be checking into a resort in Las Vegas the day of the Super Bowl.  I will be driving in from Sedona that day, but expect to be in my condo unit before that game starts.  Don't know that I will be able to plop down a wager on the game, as I am not sure where a sports book may be there near where I will be staying.

                            So, OK, Kenny Rogers....I will be staying at a place on West Tropicana Ave. (about 3 miles west of I-15)   Where is the nearest sports book I can go to to put like $5.00 down on the game? 

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                            @the-gipper said:

                            I will be checking into a resort in Las Vegas the day of the Super Bowl.  I will be driving in from Sedona that day, but expect to be in my condo unit before that game starts.  Don't know that I will be able to plop down a wager on the game, as I am not sure where a sports book may be there near where I will be staying.

                            So, OK, Kenny Rogers....I will be staying at a place on West Tropicana Ave. (about 3 miles west of I-15)   Where is the nearest sports book I can go to to put like $5.00 down on the game? 

                            $10 or more is the usual minimum last time I knew. Go up N. to W. Flamingo and take a right going E. You will find the Rio and The Palms across from it. Both have sports books.

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                              @the-gipper said:

                              I will be checking into a resort in Las Vegas the day of the Super Bowl.  I will be driving in from Sedona that day, but expect to be in my condo unit before that game starts.  Don't know that I will be able to plop down a wager on the game, as I am not sure where a sports book may be there near where I will be staying.

                              So, OK, Kenny Rogers....I will be staying at a place on West Tropicana Ave. (about 3 miles west of I-15)   Where is the nearest sports book I can go to to put like $5.00 down on the game? 

                              $10 or more is the usual minimum last time I knew. Go up N. to W. Flamingo and take a right going E. You will find the Rio and The Palms across from it. Both have sports books.

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                              @texasag1969 said:

                              $10 or more is the usual minimum last time I knew. Go up N. to W. Flamingo and take a right going E. You will find the Rio and The Palms across from it. Both have sports books.

                              OK, Ten bucks.  (I didn't have to do that much in either Tahoe or Wendover when I was in those places)

                              But I did check out a map.....both the Excalibur and the NYNY are just down the road, about equidistant.....but, parking issues with those? As for that it would probably just be a run in, make the bet, run out situation.  

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                                @mjp28 said:

                                And on November 21, 2019 the big picture, oh Cleveland and Pittsburgh are both 100/1.

                                ODDS TO WIN 2019-20 SUPER BOWL LIV (2/2/20)
                                Team Odds
                                New England Patriots 14/5
                                New Orleans Saints 4/1
                                Baltimore Ravens 9/2
                                San Francisco 49ers 8/1
                                Kansas City Chiefs 9/1
                                Green Bay Packers 12/1
                                Minnesota Vikings 14/1
                                Seattle Seahawks 16/1
                                Dallas Cowboys 20/1

                                I will be checking into a resort in Las Vegas the day of the Super Bowl.  I will be driving in from Sedona that day, but expect to be in my condo unit before that game starts.  Don't know that I will be able to plop down a wager on the game, as I am not sure where a sports book may be there near where I will be staying.

                                So, OK, Kenny Rogers....I will be staying at a place on West Tropicana Ave. (about 3 miles west of I-15)   Where is the nearest sports book I can go to to put like $5.00 down on the game? 

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                                @the-gipper said:

                                I will be checking into a resort in Las Vegas the day of the Super Bowl.  I will be driving in from Sedona that day, but expect to be in my condo unit before that game starts.  Don't know that I will be able to plop down a wager on the game, as I am not sure where a sports book may be there near where I will be staying.

                                So, OK, Kenny Rogers....I will be staying at a place on West Tropicana Ave. (about 3 miles west of I-15)   Where is the nearest sports book I can go to to put like $5.00 down on the game? 

                                $5.00 the parking attendant.

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                                  @the-gipper said:

                                  I will be checking into a resort in Las Vegas the day of the Super Bowl.  I will be driving in from Sedona that day, but expect to be in my condo unit before that game starts.  Don't know that I will be able to plop down a wager on the game, as I am not sure where a sports book may be there near where I will be staying.

                                  So, OK, Kenny Rogers....I will be staying at a place on West Tropicana Ave. (about 3 miles west of I-15)   Where is the nearest sports book I can go to to put like $5.00 down on the game? 

                                  $10 or more is the usual minimum last time I knew. Go up N. to W. Flamingo and take a right going E. You will find the Rio and The Palms across from it. Both have sports books.

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                                  @texasag1969 said:

                                  $10 or more is the usual minimum last time I knew. Go up N. to W. Flamingo and take a right going E. You will find the Rio and The Palms across from it. Both have sports books.

                                  Yes and tell Diamond Jim there it is 2019 not 1880.  😆

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                                    Cleveland Browns. FRIDAY EARLY AM REPORT, WR, DE no mention of the TE?  (t
                                     
                                    NAME POS DATE STATUS COMMENT
                                    Jarvis Landry WR Nov 21 Questionable Landry (hip) was a limited participant in Thursday's practice, Nate Ulrich of the Akron Beacon Journal reports.
                                    Odell Beckham Jr. WR Nov 21 Questionable Beckham (groin) was a limited participant in Thursday's practice, Nate Ulrich of the Akron Beacon Journal reports.
                                    Joe Schobert LB Nov 21 Questionable  
                                    Joel Bitonio G Nov 20 Questionable  
                                    Olivier Vernon DE Nov 20 Questionable Vernon (knee) is not participating in Wednesday's practice, Nate Ulrich of the Akron Beacon Journal reports.
                                    Eric Murray S Nov 19

                                    Doubtful

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                                      Miami Dolphins
                                       
                                      NAME POS DATE STATUS COMMENT
                                      Ryan Fitzpatrick QB Nov 21 Questionable Fitzpatrick (shoulder/forearm) was a limited participant in Thursday's practice, Safid Deen of the South Florida Sun Sentinel reports.
                                      Ken Webster CB Nov 20 Questionable Webster (ankle) practiced on a limited basis Wednesday, Nate Ulrich of the Akron Beacon Journal reports.
                                      Taco Charlton DE Nov 19 Questionable
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                                        Miami Dolphins
                                         
                                        NAME POS DATE STATUS COMMENT
                                        Ryan Fitzpatrick QB Nov 21 Questionable Fitzpatrick (shoulder/forearm) was a limited participant in Thursday's practice, Safid Deen of the South Florida Sun Sentinel reports.
                                        Ken Webster CB Nov 20 Questionable Webster (ankle) practiced on a limited basis Wednesday, Nate Ulrich of the Akron Beacon Journal reports.
                                        Taco Charlton DE Nov 19 Questionable
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                                        @mjp28 said:

                                        Miami Dolphins
                                         
                                        NAME POS DATE STATUS COMMENT
                                        Ryan Fitzpatrick QB Nov 21 Questionable Fitzpatrick (shoulder/forearm) was a limited participant in Thursday's practice, Safid Deen of the South Florida Sun Sentinel reports.
                                        Ken Webster CB Nov 20 Questionable Webster (ankle) practiced on a limited basis Wednesday, Nate Ulrich of the Akron Beacon Journal reports.
                                        Taco Charlton DE Nov 19 Questionable

                                        So...Fitzpatrick is questionable.

                                        Who would we rather face with a deplete DL:    A somewhat hurting Fitzpatrick....or Rosen?

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                                          FRIDAY AFTERNOON REPORT,  a little thin on defense?

                                          Cleveland Browns
                                           
                                          NAME POS DATE STATUS COMMENT
                                          Eric Murray S Nov 22 Out Murray (knee) was ruled out for Sunday's game against the Dolphins, Mary Kay Cabot of The Cleveland Plain Dealer reports.
                                          Joe Schobert LB Nov 22 Questionable Schobert is questionable for Sunday's game against the Dolphins due to a groin injury, Mary Kay Cabot of The Cleveland Plain Dealer reports.
                                          Olivier Vernon DE Nov 22 Out Vernon (knee) is ruled out for Sunday's game against the Dolphins, Scott Petrak of the Elyria Chronicle-Telegram reports.
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