The Truth about Myles/Rudolph
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So 21 Steeler Players and 12 Browns players(all but Jarvis Landry were on the field at the time)….
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So 21 Steeler Players and 12 Browns players(all but Jarvis Landry were on the field at the time)….
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Roger Goodell needs to be fired, the way the NFL handled this is a disgrace. They suspended Myles almost instantly after this incident happened, didn't even wait for any details to emerge, no due process. The first thing we should have saw was Roger Goodell in a press conference immediately following the game stating what an UNFORTUNATE incident this was and they will do their due diligence investigating this and all parties will be disciplined accordingly. Instead Myles go directly to the guillotine and Rudolph is almost completely absolved of any wrong doing all the while social media is calling him to be banned for life or to be sitting in jail.
If it wasn't for Roger Rabbit be so quick on the trigger to suspend Myles, his suspension might not be so lengthy. Roger made a knee jerk reaction and suspended Myles just to appease social media and Stoolers fans.
That incident passed the eye test. No need for "due process" or details, any more than due process was needed watching Ray Rice or Kareem Hunt slug a woman. Whatever the women did or said to provoke these "men" was irrelevant, it passed the eye test.... and don't forget that Rudolph is also a woman, who btw was not absolved but was fined. His punishment fit the crime as did Myles.
Extra curricular activities after tackles or while in a scrum is as old as the game itself...but what Myles did was so far outside the game it would equate to him pulling out some sort of a weapon from under his jersey and using it...what Myles did was way over the top...above and beyond what Vontaze Burthdefect ever did. So over the top he knew he had to lie and play the race card in order to draw sympathy and to make it easier for people like you homers to render his actions excusable. Pathetic.
How shallow minded to think that Goodells only intent was to appease the Stoolers and social media. His duty is to preserve the game and restore its image. Football is dying a slow death in schools. Parents are becoming more and more reluctant to let their kids play football, granted mostly due to concussions, but to see shit like this only adds to the already negative attitudes toward the game.
"Appease the Stoolers" lol, get the fuck out of here with that tired song and dance.
That incident passed the eye test.
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I don't post much anymore but since this has happened I'm very intrigued by this whole saga. I have been working in another state and have been away from my family for a long time so this has been something to keep me entertained.
I have been intrigued the most about how extreme some of the responses have been. Then I've been seeing people say if so and so did this how would people have reacted? But my question is how would people have reacted if this was 15 or 20 years ago? For one thing I don't think people would be calling for Myles to be put in jail. People are so sensitive anymore anything hurts their feelings.
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The outcry from Steeler's fans has been the undoing. They are some of the whiniest fans in football when they get a taste of their own medicine. They were gonna cry about any excuse they could find at being beaten up and down the field. We would have heard nothing but whines and whimpers of illegal hits all week nonstop if not for Myles bitch smacking Rudolph with his own helmet. They all are quick to put fat boy neck tattoo up on their shoulders for kicking a man on the ground but cry foul for their racist QB.
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I don't post much anymore but since this has happened I'm very intrigued by this whole saga. I have been working in another state and have been away from my family for a long time so this has been something to keep me entertained.
I have been intrigued the most about how extreme some of the responses have been. Then I've been seeing people say if so and so did this how would people have reacted? But my question is how would people have reacted if this was 15 or 20 years ago? For one thing I don't think people would be calling for Myles to be put in jail. People are so sensitive anymore anything hurts their feelings.
I don't post much anymore but since this has happened I'm very intrigued by this whole saga. I have been working in another state and have been away from my family for a long time so this has been something to keep me entertained.
I have been intrigued the most about how extreme some of the responses have been. Then I've been seeing people say if so and so did this how would people have reacted? But my question is how would people have reacted if this was 15 or 20 years ago? For one thing I don't think people would be calling for Myles to be put in jail. People are so sensitive anymore anything hurts their feelings.
I don't think anyone wants him put in jail. It didn't amount to that, but it could have if the lineman wasn't there to soften the blow and/or minimize the amount of swings.
Since you have a family, imagine if some kid rips off your son's helmet and cracks him over the head with it. Would it be a big deal to you?
If this was a fistfight, certainly there would have been suspensions, but quite honestly I would have found it entertaining. That's not what happened.
In 1983, a guy by the name of Louis Resto fought a guy named Billy Collins. Resto was charged with attempted murder for putting plaster in his boxing gloves and served 2.5 years in prison. Billy Collins died from his injuries in 1984. When you go far enough outside the rules of the sport, the sport can't protect you.
The frightening part is not what happened, but what could of happened. The fact that Garrett's playing time is the issue around here, is rather disappointing. Some people are too short-sighted to understand what they ALMOST saw.
Based on what happened I think Garrett should play again one day, but had he knocked Rudolph out, peace out dummy. I'm with the NFL 100% on HIS suspension, regardless of #Whispergate.
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If the same exact situation would have played out in reverse, the same people on here saying things like "it was like a pillow hitting Rudolph" would be demanding a public hanging for the Steelers player who did it to Baker.
I don't have a problem with Garrett being suspended for the rest of the season. My problem lies with Rudolph getting off without a second lost to suspension. My hope is that he gets his a week from tomorrow.
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I have several african american friends and they think he is lying...calling him Myles Smollet
Hahahaha
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If the same exact situation would have played out in reverse, the same people on here saying things like "it was like a pillow hitting Rudolph" would be demanding a public hanging for the Steelers player who did it to Baker.
I don't have a problem with Garrett being suspended for the rest of the season. My problem lies with Rudolph getting off without a second lost to suspension. My hope is that he gets his a week from tomorrow.
If the same exact situation would have played out in reverse, the same people on here saying things like "it was like a pillow hitting Rudolph" would be demanding a public hanging for the Steelers player who did it to Baker.
I don't have a problem with Garrett being suspended for the rest of the season. My problem lies with Rudolph getting off without a second lost to suspension. My hope is that he gets his a week from tomorrow.
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I have several african american friends and they think he is lying...calling him Myles Smollet
Hahahaha
I have several african american friends and they think he is lying...calling him Myles Smollet
Hahahaha
Again....I have explained on here a couple of times like you were all 4 year olds how in a court of law...which I know this is not, how his claim would be considered highly credible.
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If the same exact situation would have played out in reverse, the same people on here saying things like "it was like a pillow hitting Rudolph" would be demanding a public hanging for the Steelers player who did it to Baker.
I don't have a problem with Garrett being suspended for the rest of the season. My problem lies with Rudolph getting off without a second lost to suspension. My hope is that he gets his a week from tomorrow.
If the same exact situation would have played out in reverse, the same people on here saying things like "it was like a pillow hitting Rudolph" would be demanding a public hanging for the Steelers player who did it to Baker.
I don't have a problem with Garrett being suspended for the rest of the season. My problem lies with Rudolph getting off without a second lost to suspension. My hope is that he gets his a week from tomorrow.
Would be nice -but- I'd bet that Rudy could play without a helmet that game and won't even catch a cold.
The referees will carry extra yellow flags in their pockets just for that game.
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I have several african american friends and they think he is lying...calling him Myles Smollet
Hahahaha
Again....I have explained on here a couple of times like you were all 4 year olds how in a court of law...which I know this is not, how his claim would be considered highly credible.
Again....I have explained on here a couple of times like you were all 4 year olds how in a court of law...which I know this is not, how his claim would be considered highly credible.
What's even more credible is every shred of evidence suggests he didn't say it. NFL said they have no audio, none of the refs heard it, none of his teammates heard it, Rudolph's AA coach said he wouldn't say that, etc. You go into court with that argument and a 4 year old would probably mop the floor with you.
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Again....I have explained on here a couple of times like you were all 4 year olds how in a court of law...which I know this is not, how his claim would be considered highly credible.
What's even more credible is every shred of evidence suggests he didn't say it. NFL said they have no audio, none of the refs heard it, none of his teammates heard it, Rudolph's AA coach said he wouldn't say that, etc. You go into court with that argument and a 4 year old would probably mop the floor with you.
What's even more credible is every shred of evidence suggests he didn't say it. NFL said they have no audio, none of the refs heard it, none of his teammates heard it, Rudolph's AA coach said he wouldn't say that, etc. You go into court with that argument and a 4 year old would probably mop the floor with you.
Do you really want to compare your training and experience to mine when it comes to what constitutes "credible evidence"?
The fact is, you are just dead wrong about that, and allow me to explain why:
Let's look at what you claim to be evidence.
A. The NFL has no audio. There is no NFL audio of any of the "dialogue" that happened. Good bad or indifferent. You can't prove a negative with a negative. Its like saying: because there is no turd in htown's toilet, he must have never in his life ever had to take a shit.
B. And, Did you see the video? None of the refs and none of the teammates were anywhere close enough to hear anything that was going on in a face to face confrontation like that....There are bodies flying around, men grunting....and a ton of crowd noise. They can't say they heard it....because they cannot attest to anything that was said at that point where the two of them were down on the ground. They CANNOT say that A said this...and B said that....or that "I heard everything that was said and B did not say anything"
C. So Rudolph's AA coach said he would never say that? First off, WTF is an AA coach...and what is his relationship to Rudolph, and can he be qualified as a character witness. Furthermore, I am sure that many people could probably say "Oh, he is not the kind of guy that would say that.....but then that would be OK....if Rudolph were not put into a very stressful situation. He had thrown 4 Ints. he team was being whipped every way shape or form. He was frustrated, angry and he had just be pounded again by a guy that had been in his grill all night and there he was again, slamming him to the turf (which actually...Myles could have given him a lot worse). It is certainly highly possible, highly possible that all that had built up, and that he had done something that, yes, certainly was stupid and out of character of him to do. Just as, clearly, obviously, Myles did something that was stupid and out of character for him. In fact, equally or more credible would be the testimony of Myles teammates and coaches and friends etc..and whatever an AA coach is, that it would not be in his character to swing that helmet at him....
So, what are we left with?
The same evidence we had before.. The instantaneous "excited utterance" or physical action or reaction. It was clear that at that moment something happened to cause that harsh reaction. Furthermore, there was the statement made to Freddie in the locker room immediately after the incident. These lend credibility to Garrett's claim.
So, when you reach the age of 4, let us all know.
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A white QB with a black head coach and black teammates being hunted by black pass-rushers... yeah, no way that could be bad if it got out.
I think we all know he said it.
He said it as he was trying to get Garrett off of him, while he ripped at Garretts helmet. That's why Garrett grabbed at him through the OL and ripped him up by his face. If you watch you can see the moment that Garrett's entire body language changes to attack mode... but even then he allows himself to be ushered away, content with ripping off his head until Rudolph creates a scene "to get his helmet back", but instead of asking Garrett for his helmet back he throws a punch at Garrett which in return Garrett decides to give him his helmet back. Pretty obvious that Mason deserved what he got and even had he been hit with the crown of the helmet- IT WOULD NOT HAVE KILLED HIM.
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What's even more credible is every shred of evidence suggests he didn't say it. NFL said they have no audio, none of the refs heard it, none of his teammates heard it, Rudolph's AA coach said he wouldn't say that, etc. You go into court with that argument and a 4 year old would probably mop the floor with you.
Do you really want to compare your training and experience to mine when it comes to what constitutes "credible evidence"?
The fact is, you are just dead wrong about that, and allow me to explain why:
Let's look at what you claim to be evidence.
A. The NFL has no audio. There is no NFL audio of any of the "dialogue" that happened. Good bad or indifferent. You can't prove a negative with a negative. Its like saying: because there is no turd in htown's toilet, he must have never in his life ever had to take a shit.
B. And, Did you see the video? None of the refs and none of the teammates were anywhere close enough to hear anything that was going on in a face to face confrontation like that....There are bodies flying around, men grunting....and a ton of crowd noise. They can't say they heard it....because they cannot attest to anything that was said at that point where the two of them were down on the ground. They CANNOT say that A said this...and B said that....or that "I heard everything that was said and B did not say anything"
C. So Rudolph's AA coach said he would never say that? First off, WTF is an AA coach...and what is his relationship to Rudolph, and can he be qualified as a character witness. Furthermore, I am sure that many people could probably say "Oh, he is not the kind of guy that would say that.....but then that would be OK....if Rudolph were not put into a very stressful situation. He had thrown 4 Ints. he team was being whipped every way shape or form. He was frustrated, angry and he had just be pounded again by a guy that had been in his grill all night and there he was again, slamming him to the turf (which actually...Myles could have given him a lot worse). It is certainly highly possible, highly possible that all that had built up, and that he had done something that, yes, certainly was stupid and out of character of him to do. Just as, clearly, obviously, Myles did something that was stupid and out of character for him. In fact, equally or more credible would be the testimony of Myles teammates and coaches and friends etc..and whatever an AA coach is, that it would not be in his character to swing that helmet at him....
So, what are we left with?
The same evidence we had before.. The instantaneous "excited utterance" or physical action or reaction. It was clear that at that moment something happened to cause that harsh reaction. Furthermore, there was the statement made to Freddie in the locker room immediately after the incident. These lend credibility to Garrett's claim.
So, when you reach the age of 4, let us all know.
Do you really want to compare your training and experience to mine when it comes to what constitutes "credible evidence"?
The fact is, you are just dead wrong about that, and allow me to explain why:
Let's look at what you claim to be evidence.
A. The NFL has no audio. There is no NFL audio of any of the "dialogue" that happened. Good bad or indifferent. You can't prove a negative with a negative. Its like saying: because there is no turd in htown's toilet, he must have never in his life ever had to take a shit.
B. And, Did you see the video? None of the refs and none of the teammates were anywhere close enough to hear anything that was going on in a face to face confrontation like that....There are bodies flying around, men grunting....and a ton of crowd noise. They can't say they heard it....because they cannot attest to anything that was said at that point where the two of them were down on the ground. They CANNOT say that A said this...and B said that....or that "I heard everything that was said and B did not say anything"
C. So Rudolph's AA coach said he would never say that? First off, WTF is an AA coach...and what is his relationship to Rudolph, and can he be qualified as a character witness. Furthermore, I am sure that many people could probably say "Oh, he is not the kind of guy that would say that.....but then that would be OK....if Rudolph were not put into a very stressful situation. He had thrown 4 Ints. he team was being whipped every way shape or form. He was frustrated, angry and he had just be pounded again by a guy that had been in his grill all night and there he was again, slamming him to the turf (which actually...Myles could have given him a lot worse). It is certainly highly possible, highly possible that all that had built up, and that he had done something that, yes, certainly was stupid and out of character of him to do. Just as, clearly, obviously, Myles did something that was stupid and out of character for him. In fact, equally or more credible would be the testimony of Myles teammates and coaches and friends etc..and whatever an AA coach is, that it would not be in his character to swing that helmet at him....
So, what are we left with?
The same evidence we had before.. The instantaneous "excited utterance" or physical action or reaction. It was clear that at that moment something happened to cause that harsh reaction. Furthermore, there was the statement made to Freddie in the locker room immediately after the incident. These lend credibility to Garrett's claim.
So, when you reach the age of 4, let us all know.
In this instance AA obviously means African American.
Even if the accusation is "credible", which I'm entitled to believe it's not in this context, it's not an actual defense to criminal prosecution for assault. That would have to be self-defense, which this isn't the case obviously. He might have justified that with a punch, but not a helmet. Especially, when there were plenty of people to "protect" him. It's a moot point, unless you're aiming for a reduced sentence.
I'm not even sure that would work if you tried to charge Rudolph with some sort of hate crime. That requires facts that don't exist in this case.
Now, in civil court maybe. Those are clown shows if you get the right judge.
But if you think the NFL gives a shit about that defense, you're nuts. At the moment, they don't have liability insurance for head trauma. There's not an insurance company in the world that will provide it. They're not going to take that risk and who can blame them?
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