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  • @orion said:

    Sorry, it appears to be working from my perspective.  It's Brady yelling at McDaniels.   It's on this page:

    https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/12/03/tom-brady-josh-mcdaniels-yelling-video-patriots-bills

    But that is just what we want.....some fire between a coach and his player.   It seems to me that the Brady/McDaniel combo has worked pretty darn good over the years....and a little debate between them certainly is not indicative of an inability to "handle"  a big ego.   They handled each others egos together to the tune of Yay many Super Bowl rings. 

    @the-gipper said:

    But that is just what we want.....some fire

    I'm all for hiring Brady as HC.

  • @the-gipper said:

    I'm not saying McD wouldn't bring his "vision" to this team.   Is that something you can get grown men to buy into is a different story.  He has a history of failure at that part along with personnel evaluation.   NOT an ideal combination.

    And until Baker displays some selfless type leadership when under severe duress, I remain skeptical.   Our QB did not acquit himself well this past season in that category.

    @tiamat63 said:

    I'm not saying McD wouldn't bring his "vision" to this team.   Is that something you can get grown men to buy into is a different story.  He has a history of failure at that part along with personnel evaluation.   NOT an ideal combination.

    And until Baker displays some selfless type leadership when under severe duress, I remain skeptical.   Our QB did not acquit himself well this past season in that category.

    Tia, I like some of the points you've made.  That said, what makes you so sure there were grown men to coach in Denver at the time?  He didn't get hired in Denver because they were playing like grown men.  He got hired because they had a bunch of guys that couldn't win a pillow fight in a sorority house.

    You are correct that he wasn't ready for life outside of Brady and BB at the time. I was one of his biggest critics after that.  That said, this isn't just 2 weeks later. I LIKE how he's a very important part of NE getting a lot of productivity out of the situational guys they've relied on in recent years.  While we know how hands-on BB is - he's also very demanding of his Assistant Coaches especially his Coordinators.  I know many people think their WR Corps disappointed them and they're right to an extent.  However, it isn't all that different than it's ever been. Okay, so they looked to Danny Amendola to team up with Edelman instead of the guys they chose this year. IMO the change they never overcame was the loss of Gronk for all 16 games and the post season (as opposed to losing him for games to nagging injuries in year's past).  He was their X-factor.  In saying all this, how terrible is a 12-4 record?   Must be nice to be able to complain about 12-4 football eh?

    You made a comment somewhere that you think Stefanski is a better leader of men but all evidence I'm seeing shows his employer assigned him a baby sitter as recently as Gary Kubiak for the 2019 season.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    I'm not saying McD wouldn't bring his "vision" to this team.   Is that something you can get grown men to buy into is a different story.  He has a history of failure at that part along with personnel evaluation.   NOT an ideal combination.

    And until Baker displays some selfless type leadership when under severe duress, I remain skeptical.   Our QB did not acquit himself well this past season in that category.

    Tia, I like some of the points you've made.  That said, what makes you so sure there were grown men to coach in Denver at the time?  He didn't get hired in Denver because they were playing like grown men.  He got hired because they had a bunch of guys that couldn't win a pillow fight in a sorority house.

    You are correct that he wasn't ready for life outside of Brady and BB at the time. I was one of his biggest critics after that.  That said, this isn't just 2 weeks later. I LIKE how he's a very important part of NE getting a lot of productivity out of the situational guys they've relied on in recent years.  While we know how hands-on BB is - he's also very demanding of his Assistant Coaches especially his Coordinators.  I know many people think their WR Corps disappointed them and they're right to an extent.  However, it isn't all that different than it's ever been. Okay, so they looked to Danny Amendola to team up with Edelman instead of the guys they chose this year. IMO the change they never overcame was the loss of Gronk for all 16 games and the post season (as opposed to losing him for games to nagging injuries in year's past).  He was their X-factor.  In saying all this, how terrible is a 12-4 record?   Must be nice to be able to complain about 12-4 football eh?

    You made a comment somewhere that you think Stefanski is a better leader of men but all evidence I'm seeing shows his employer assigned him a baby sitter as recently as Gary Kubiak for the 2019 season.

    @flugel said:

    That said, what makes you so sure there were grown men to coach in Denver at the time?  He didn't get hired in Denver because they were playing like grown men.  He got hired because they had a bunch of guys that couldn't win a pillow fight in a sorority house

    OMG. LOL. Now I can go make some cowboy coffee....

  • Well, given a choice between McDaniels or Daboll....

    I'd pick Kris Richard as my next head coach. I don't get why he didn't get an interview with the Browns. Did with the Giants...

    at least, hope he ends up with the Browns as an assistant coach.

    da2a8b51-3d26-4d03-81e0-11d36379f5e0.jpe

  • Robert Saleh from the 49ers is my guess to be the next HC. Ed Dobbs from the Colts to be next GM . If Josh McDaniels was going to be the HC he probably would have been given the job after his interview. Saleh seems to carry a hard nose attitude that this team desperately needs. Its possible that he would bring assistants from the 49ers on the offensive side.

  • Well, given a choice between McDaniels or Daboll....

    I'd pick Kris Richard as my next head coach. I don't get why he didn't get an interview with the Browns. Did with the Giants...

    at least, hope he ends up with the Browns as an assistant coach.

    da2a8b51-3d26-4d03-81e0-11d36379f5e0.jpe

    @calfoxwc said:

    Well, given a choice between McDaniels or Daboll....

    I'd pick Kris Richard as my next head coach. I don't get why he didn't get an interview with the Browns. Did with the Giants...

    at least, hope he ends up with the Browns as an assistant coach.

    da2a8b51-3d26-4d03-81e0-11d36379f5e0.jpe

    This dude is going to have to get a restraining order against cal. 

  • Robert Saleh from the 49ers is my guess to be the next HC. Ed Dobbs from the Colts to be next GM . If Josh McDaniels was going to be the HC he probably would have been given the job after his interview. Saleh seems to carry a hard nose attitude that this team desperately needs. Its possible that he would bring assistants from the 49ers on the offensive side.

    @7moses7 said:

    Robert Saleh from the 49ers is my guess to be the next HC. Ed Dobbs from the Colts to be next GM . If Josh McDaniels was going to be the HC he probably would have been given the job after his interview. Saleh seems to carry a hard nose attitude that this team desperately needs. Its possible that he would bring assistants from the 49ers on the offensive side.

    Yeah, I agree. 

    If it was going to be McDaniels, IMO, it would have happened by now. (Which means it'll probably come out he's been hired the second I hit SUBMIT REPLY on this thought)

  • Robert Saleh from the 49ers is my guess to be the next HC. Ed Dobbs from the Colts to be next GM . If Josh McDaniels was going to be the HC he probably would have been given the job after his interview. Saleh seems to carry a hard nose attitude that this team desperately needs. Its possible that he would bring assistants from the 49ers on the offensive side.

    @7moses7 said:

    Robert Saleh from the 49ers is my guess to be the next HC. Ed Dobbs from the Colts to be next GM . If Josh McDaniels was going to be the HC he probably would have been given the job after his interview. Saleh seems to carry a hard nose attitude that this team desperately needs. Its possible that he would bring assistants from the 49ers on the offensive side.

    The more I see & read, the more solidly I'm on the Saleh train.

    Mike

  • Robert Saleh from the 49ers is my guess to be the next HC. Ed Dobbs from the Colts to be next GM . If Josh McDaniels was going to be the HC he probably would have been given the job after his interview. Saleh seems to carry a hard nose attitude that this team desperately needs. Its possible that he would bring assistants from the 49ers on the offensive side.

    @7moses7 said:

    Robert Saleh from the 49ers is my guess to be the next HC. Ed Dobbs from the Colts to be next GM . If Josh McDaniels was going to be the HC he probably would have been given the job after his interview. Saleh seems to carry a hard nose attitude that this team desperately needs. Its possible that he would bring assistants from the 49ers on the offensive side.

    I'm starting to like the idea of this guy more every day.

    While the success at DC is very good - the observation of this guy on the sideline shows me a defense that plays very hard for this guy with a lot of trust behind doing so. 

    I think we have some really good candidates, which would be fine if the people doing the hiring had the 1st clue what they're looking for and why.  I think we're about due for some hiring criteria considering we've hired 7 different HCs since 2012....

  • Saleh has very good defensive players. 

  • The idea of the Browns hiring a guy who most likely comes from a Muslim background, thus blowing the heads of the MAGA crowd, does strike my funny bone as delicious. 

  • The idea of the Browns hiring a guy who most likely comes from a Muslim background, thus blowing the heads of the MAGA crowd, does strike my funny bone as delicious. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    The idea of the Browns hiring a guy who most likely comes from a Muslim background, thus blowing the heads of the MAGA crowd, does strike my funny bone as delicious. 

    Your funny bone is your head? Out of Stefanski, McDaniels, Swartz and Saleh, the latter has less 'cons' in my opinion. 

    McDaniels ans Swartz are great coordinators but we need a head coach. 

  • @dutch-oven said:

    The idea of the Browns hiring a guy who most likely comes from a Muslim background, thus blowing the heads of the MAGA crowd, does strike my funny bone as delicious. 

    Your funny bone is your head? Out of Stefanski, McDaniels, Swartz and Saleh, the latter has less 'cons' in my opinion. 

    McDaniels ans Swartz are great coordinators but we need a head coach. 

    @nero said:

    Your funny bone is your head? Out of Stefanski, McDaniels, Swartz and Saleh, the latter has less 'cons' in my opinion. 

    McDaniels ans Swartz are great coordinators but we need a head coach. 

    Saleh has busted his ass getting to the point of being interviewed for head coaching jobs, has worked under some great football minds, has three seasons experience as a coordinator. The guy is super smart too. On the flip side, he's never been a head coach on any level, and at 40 years old, has six children. He's obviously insane. 

  • @nero said:

    Your funny bone is your head? Out of Stefanski, McDaniels, Swartz and Saleh, the latter has less 'cons' in my opinion. 

    McDaniels ans Swartz are great coordinators but we need a head coach. 

    Saleh has busted his ass getting to the point of being interviewed for head coaching jobs, has worked under some great football minds, has three seasons experience as a coordinator. The guy is super smart too. On the flip side, he's never been a head coach on any level, and at 40 years old, has six children. He's obviously insane. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Saleh has busted his ass getting to the point of being interviewed for head coaching jobs, has worked under some great football minds, has three seasons experience as a coordinator. The guy is super smart too. On the flip side, he's never been a head coach on any level, and at 40 years old, has six children. He's obviously insane. 

    I like interviewing a young guy. I don't expect Swartz suddenly becoming Paul Brown, for example. 

    But what do you consider more insane, having 6 kids... Or interviewing for a HC position in the Browns? 

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Saleh has busted his ass getting to the point of being interviewed for head coaching jobs, has worked under some great football minds, has three seasons experience as a coordinator. The guy is super smart too. On the flip side, he's never been a head coach on any level, and at 40 years old, has six children. He's obviously insane. 

    I like interviewing a young guy. I don't expect Swartz suddenly becoming Paul Brown, for example. 

    But what do you consider more insane, having 6 kids... Or interviewing for a HC position in the Browns? 

    @nero said:

    I like interviewing a young guy. I don't expect Swartz suddenly becoming Paul Brown, for example. 

    But what do you consider more insane, having 6 kids... Or interviewing for a HC position in the Browns? 

    ooh... good question. 

    On one hand, six kids will kill your will to live. On the other hand, being the HC of the Browns will kill your will to live and your head coaching career. 

  • The idea of the Browns hiring a guy who most likely comes from a Muslim background, thus blowing the heads of the MAGA crowd, does strike my funny bone as delicious. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    The idea of the Browns hiring a guy who most likely comes from a Muslim background

    ...no wonder his defense terrorizes opposing offenses.

    I wouldn't mind a HC from the defensive side of the ball.  At least you know that there will be an OC.

  • @nero said:

    I like interviewing a young guy. I don't expect Swartz suddenly becoming Paul Brown, for example. 

    But what do you consider more insane, having 6 kids... Or interviewing for a HC position in the Browns? 

    ooh... good question. 

    On one hand, six kids will kill your will to live. On the other hand, being the HC of the Browns will kill your will to live and your head coaching career. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    ooh... good question. 

    On one hand, six kids will kill your will to live. On the other hand, being the HC of the Browns will kill your will to live and your head coaching career. 

    6 kids may also make you work your butt off at any given job just to stay away from home as much as possible and 'provide'. 

  • Robert Saleh from the 49ers is my guess to be the next HC. Ed Dobbs from the Colts to be next GM . If Josh McDaniels was going to be the HC he probably would have been given the job after his interview. Saleh seems to carry a hard nose attitude that this team desperately needs. Its possible that he would bring assistants from the 49ers on the offensive side.

    @7moses7 said:

    Robert Saleh from the 49ers is my guess to be the next HC. Ed Dobbs from the Colts to be next GM .

    Since he's the only one whose team is still playing, then the longer no announcement is made the more traction your guess will gain.

  • Well, given a choice between McDaniels or Daboll....

    I'd pick Kris Richard as my next head coach. I don't get why he didn't get an interview with the Browns. Did with the Giants...

    at least, hope he ends up with the Browns as an assistant coach.

    da2a8b51-3d26-4d03-81e0-11d36379f5e0.jpe

    @calfoxwc said:

    Well, given a choice between McDaniels or Daboll....

    I'd pick Kris Richard as my next head coach. I don't get why he didn't get an interview with the Browns. Did with the Giants...

    at least, hope he ends up with the Browns as an assistant coach.

    da2a8b51-3d26-4d03-81e0-11d36379f5e0.jpe

    He won't be hired,  he pronounces his name like he is French:   Ree-shard.   He don't look French.  He probably pronounces the game "futbol" and calls it "footie".   Besides, his name seems to close to Keith Richards.   And, I mean, come on.  Keith Richards as your football coach?

  • Just got an ESPN alert that Stefanski will be the guy.