Browns To Announce Berry as GM
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They have gotten all their boys in all the top positions. It's on.
As I said earlier, (yesterday?), three different guys directly reporting to Haslam is a recipe for disaster. They should plan to be the LAST one in his ear. That's the guy he listens to.
This set up MIGHT work ok if someone else was in Haslam's place.
As I said earlier, (yesterday?), three different guys directly reporting to Haslam is a recipe for disaster. They should plan to be the LAST one in his ear. That's the guy he listens to.
This set up MIGHT work ok if someone else was in Haslam's place.
If someone else was in Haslam's place, I doubt this cockamamie scheme would be in place. In the first place.
One more screw up and it's official- Haslam will have topped Dan Snyder on the bad owner scale. Some would say he's already there....... I vote he's already topped Jerry Jones on the meddlesome owner part.
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Glad they got their guy at GM & things seem to be aligning. Now we can just wait & see what happens during the trading, free agency, & draft periods. I can't (and won't) judge Berry by the 1-31 past when he was here...the talent situation on the Browns is FAR different, so I',ll just say...
Now, on to OC & DC?
Mike
ps: I heard on radio today that Berry would be announced after the Super Bowl.No idea how accurate/inaccurate that may be.
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Glad they got their guy at GM & things seem to be aligning. Now we can just wait & see what happens during the trading, free agency, & draft periods. I can't (and won't) judge Berry by the 1-31 past when he was here...the talent situation on the Browns is FAR different, so I',ll just say...
Now, on to OC & DC?
Mike
ps: I heard on radio today that Berry would be announced after the Super Bowl.No idea how accurate/inaccurate that may be.
ps: I heard on radio today that Berry would be announced after the Super Bowl.No idea how accurate/inaccurate that may be.
I wonder if that's an Eagles thing....of course anything and everything could be a Jimmy thing. Could it be that he still wants to talk to someone from one of the superbowl teams? I mean, that would be very Jimmy-like. I can see it now, he brings in a SB guy, Berry removes his name from that hat, the SB guy say, Thanks but no thanks.....and Jimmy's left holding his pud...again.
How did I get so cynical? I'll tell ya. Jimmy & Dee. I've been conditioned.
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I actually think the announcement might be an NFL thing. They probably want anything football related to not be done the week of the Super Bowl to prevent it from drawing away any attention. It's as stupid as the coaches from SB teams can not be named head coach thing.
Curious, what happens if the "brain trust" works this time? It is a completely different set of circumstances than what it was during the Sashi era. What will it take people to convince them that this is a success? Division winner? playoffs? SB? SB win? I'm just curious because I think this is going to be the most successful regime the Browns have had in 20 years but I'm in the minority on this board. People are going to lose their heads if they trade down in the first round of the draft even IF it is the correct football move.
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Yay! A warm body willingly took the job!
Yay! A warm body willingly took the job!
This caused a substantial snort.
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Ok someone give us their impression of Ghoolie on the Berry hiring ????
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I actually think the announcement might be an NFL thing. They probably want anything football related to not be done the week of the Super Bowl to prevent it from drawing away any attention. It's as stupid as the coaches from SB teams can not be named head coach thing.
Curious, what happens if the "brain trust" works this time? It is a completely different set of circumstances than what it was during the Sashi era. What will it take people to convince them that this is a success? Division winner? playoffs? SB? SB win? I'm just curious because I think this is going to be the most successful regime the Browns have had in 20 years but I'm in the minority on this board. People are going to lose their heads if they trade down in the first round of the draft even IF it is the correct football move.
I actually think the announcement might be an NFL thing. They probably want anything football related to not be done the week of the Super Bowl to prevent it from drawing away any attention. It's as stupid as the coaches from SB teams can not be named head coach thing.
Curious, what happens if the "brain trust" works this time? It is a completely different set of circumstances than what it was during the Sashi era. What will it take people to convince them that this is a success? Division winner? playoffs? SB? SB win? I'm just curious because I think this is going to be the most successful regime the Browns have had in 20 years but I'm in the minority on this board. People are going to lose their heads if they trade down in the first round of the draft even IF it is the correct football move.
I agree with you to a large extent. Personally, I can live with a delayed announcement about Berry during Super Bowl week, but the Coach thing is ridiculous.
It really IS a far different circumstance this time & I also believe our hierarchy will be more cohesive than in the past. Definitely a "change in culture" taking place.
Count me as one who is concerned about what we do in free agency & the draft. Admittedly, I do fear drafting strictly for "need" (questionable LT) or trading down if there is a far superior "best player available" when we come up in draft order. Of course, a lot of what we do in the draft will depend upon free agency, so we'll have to wait & see.
Mike
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I actually think the announcement might be an NFL thing. They probably want anything football related to not be done the week of the Super Bowl to prevent it from drawing away any attention. It's as stupid as the coaches from SB teams can not be named head coach thing.
Curious, what happens if the "brain trust" works this time? It is a completely different set of circumstances than what it was during the Sashi era. What will it take people to convince them that this is a success? Division winner? playoffs? SB? SB win? I'm just curious because I think this is going to be the most successful regime the Browns have had in 20 years but I'm in the minority on this board. People are going to lose their heads if they trade down in the first round of the draft even IF it is the correct football move.
I actually think the announcement might be an NFL thing. They probably want anything football related to not be done the week of the Super Bowl to prevent it from drawing away any attention. It's as stupid as the coaches from SB teams can not be named head coach thing.
Curious, what happens if the "brain trust" works this time? It is a completely different set of circumstances than what it was during the Sashi era. What will it take people to convince them that this is a success? Division winner? playoffs? SB? SB win? I'm just curious because I think this is going to be the most successful regime the Browns have had in 20 years but I'm in the minority on this board. People are going to lose their heads if they trade down in the first round of the draft even IF it is the correct football move.
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I actually think the announcement might be an NFL thing. They probably want anything football related to not be done the week of the Super Bowl to prevent it from drawing away any attention. It's as stupid as the coaches from SB teams can not be named head coach thing.
Curious, what happens if the "brain trust" works this time? It is a completely different set of circumstances than what it was during the Sashi era. What will it take people to convince them that this is a success? Division winner? playoffs? SB? SB win? I'm just curious because I think this is going to be the most successful regime the Browns have had in 20 years but I'm in the minority on this board. People are going to lose their heads if they trade down in the first round of the draft even IF it is the correct football move.
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Why the picture of a young Andy Dalton ?
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Why the picture of a young Andy Dalton ?
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I don't get the hostility about Berry - Berry wanted the head coach they just hired now. Dorsey was too arrogant for me - Berry seems like a great guy for the head coach etc to work with. No stuffed shirt there.
We'll see. For the first time - it definitely seems like they are on the right track.
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Why the picture of a young Andy Dalton ?
Why the picture of a young Andy Dalton ?
See how well it worked out for him? LOL!?
One of the few things you're right about.
Andy Dalton is Scott Farkas
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Why the picture of a young Andy Dalton ?
See how well it worked out for him? LOL!?
One of the few things you're right about.
Andy Dalton is Scott Farkas
One of the few things you're right about.
I'm right about a lot of things because I don't bath in de Nile river.?
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I'm right about a lot of things because I don't bath in de Nile river.?
Nope, just the opposite, don't deny it.
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I don't get the hostility about Berry - Berry wanted the head coach they just hired now. Dorsey was too arrogant for me - Berry seems like a great guy for the head coach etc to work with. No stuffed shirt there.
We'll see. For the first time - it definitely seems like they are on the right track.
I don't get the hostility about Berry - Berry wanted the head coach they just hired now. Dorsey was too arrogant for me - Berry seems like a great guy for the head coach etc to work with. No stuffed shirt there.
We'll see. For the first time - it definitely seems like they are on the right track.
We're all a little jaded, rightfully so.
Nothing against Berry or Stefanski from me. It's just the continuous "lather, rinse, repeat" Haslam cycle that doesn't excite me or all of us.
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I don't get the hostility about Berry - Berry wanted the head coach they just hired now. Dorsey was too arrogant for me - Berry seems like a great guy for the head coach etc to work with. No stuffed shirt there.
We'll see. For the first time - it definitely seems like they are on the right track.
We're all a little jaded, rightfully so.
Nothing against Berry or Stefanski from me. It's just the continuous "lather, rinse, repeat" Haslam cycle that doesn't excite me or all of us.
We're all a little jaded, rightfully so.
Nothing against Berry or Stefanski from me. It's just the continuous "lather, rinse, repeat" Haslam cycle that doesn't excite me or all of us.
I think the 2019 Great Expectations has made that even seem worse than usual. And still three months until the next Draft Day to see how that turns out.
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Works for me. Sounds like our coach and GM will be aligned in their philosophy of football.
We can only hope.
Fuck it.. I'm done with these idiots...
Come on, you can say that now- but you know you're not.
As would be the case with ant 1st-time GM.
In retrospect Berry seemed preordained... only real hurdle was being sure that Stef liked him, which he did. Real question is how does the organization work?
It would seem to be up to Berry to blend the analytic and traditional scouting approaches into player decisions, but those two inputs don't meet at his level. Then add an expanded HC/Staff role in player selection and I don't know what you have.
Collaboration sounds great, but it isn't a decision process.
I, too, will be interested in his Intro Presser...
Until proven otherwise Tour, the Browns organization is FUBAR. You're the management guru. Don't know who previously pointed it out, but looks like Jimmy has too many people reporting directly to him equal in the power structure. If they start infighting it's curtains. I'll give Berry a temporary pass just because he was here during the Sashi debacle.
Still wondering where DePo fits into the power structure.
Why, Dope-po, I mean Depodesta is the ace #1 major domo pulling Haslam's strings. At least that's how I see it. I hope to God he wasn't the major factor (other than Jimmy) responsible for the Browns clown show since he arrived on the scene. He's the only other constant. I've said it elsewhere if Stefansky flops, it's the end of Paul- and this time it will be a total Haslam Nuke of everything. Or maybe, Jimmy will finally figure out he doesn't have a clue on how to run an NFL Franchise....
Until proven otherwise Tour, the Browns organization is FUBAR. You're the management guru. Don't know who previously pointed it out, but looks like Jimmy has too many people reporting directly to him equal in the power structure. If they start infighting it's curtains. I'll give Berry a temporary pass just because he was here during the Sashi debacle.
It's not the number of reports that is a concern... it's the talent level of the person to whom they are all reporting. And based upon the incident rates of infighting in the past there is reason for concern.
I'm thrilled by this hire.
The Process fans have no "dumb football guys" to blame when this goes down in flames. No Hue backstabbing Sashi, no Dorsey ignoring DePodesta…
They have gotten all their boys in all the top positions. It's on.
The Process was the "Consensus decision making process". Until we know what the new decision process is nothing is "on".
As for "dumb football guys"... I'm sure there are still enough in the Scouting Departments, both College and Pro, to keep you happy.
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Nice to see Jimmah hired the 6th GM under his command....what possibly could go wrong?
I expect Elliot Wolf will soon be preparing his PowerPoint presentation, as to why he wants out of Cleveland.
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney
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