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  • Ok someone give us their impression of Ghoolie on the Berry hiring ????

    @7moses7 said:

    Ok someone give us their impression of Ghoolie on the Berry hiring ????

    Berry is a coffee fetcher!!!!!

  • I don't get the hostility about Berry - Berry wanted the head coach they just hired now. Dorsey was too arrogant for me - Berry seems like a great guy for the head coach etc to work with. No stuffed shirt there.

    We'll see. For the first time - it definitely seems like they are on the right track.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    ?

    Why the picture of a young Andy Dalton ?

    @darren15 said:

    Why the picture of a young Andy Dalton ?

    @texasag1969 said:

    See how well it worked out for him? LOL!?

    One of the few things you're right about.

    farkus.jpg

    Andy Dalton is Scott Farkas

    farksdal.png

  • Ok someone give us their impression of Ghoolie on the Berry hiring ????

    @7moses7 said:

    Ok someone give us their impression of Ghoolie on the Berry hiring ????

    A name being mentioned a lot around here.

    He must have been quite an influential dude.

  • @darren15 said:

    Why the picture of a young Andy Dalton ?

    @texasag1969 said:

    See how well it worked out for him? LOL!?

    One of the few things you're right about.

    farkus.jpg

    Andy Dalton is Scott Farkas

    farksdal.png

    @gorka said:

    One of the few things you're right about.

    I'm right about a lot of things because I don't bath in de Nile river.?

  • @gorka said:

    One of the few things you're right about.

    I'm right about a lot of things because I don't bath in de Nile river.?

    @texasag1969 said:

    I'm right about a lot of things because I don't bath in de Nile river.?

    Nope, just the opposite, don't deny it.

  • I don't get the hostility about Berry - Berry wanted the head coach they just hired now. Dorsey was too arrogant for me - Berry seems like a great guy for the head coach etc to work with. No stuffed shirt there.

    We'll see. For the first time - it definitely seems like they are on the right track.

    @calfoxwc said:

    I don't get the hostility about Berry - Berry wanted the head coach they just hired now. Dorsey was too arrogant for me - Berry seems like a great guy for the head coach etc to work with. No stuffed shirt there.

    We'll see. For the first time - it definitely seems like they are on the right track.

    We're all a little jaded, rightfully so. 

    Nothing against Berry or Stefanski from me. It's just the continuous "lather, rinse, repeat"  Haslam cycle that doesn't excite me or all of us. 

  • @calfoxwc said:

    I don't get the hostility about Berry - Berry wanted the head coach they just hired now. Dorsey was too arrogant for me - Berry seems like a great guy for the head coach etc to work with. No stuffed shirt there.

    We'll see. For the first time - it definitely seems like they are on the right track.

    We're all a little jaded, rightfully so. 

    Nothing against Berry or Stefanski from me. It's just the continuous "lather, rinse, repeat"  Haslam cycle that doesn't excite me or all of us. 

    @bob806 said:

    We're all a little jaded, rightfully so. 

    Nothing against Berry or Stefanski from me. It's just the continuous "lather, rinse, repeat"  Haslam cycle that doesn't excite me or all of us. 

    I think the 2019 Great Expectations has made that even seem worse than usual.  And still three months until the next Draft Day to see how that turns out.

  • @jiggins7919 said:

    Works for me. Sounds like our coach and GM will be aligned in their philosophy of football. 

    We can only hope.

    @nickers said:

    Fuck it.. I'm done with these idiots...

    Come on, you can say that now- but you know you're not.  🙂 

    @tour2ma said:

    As would be the case with ant 1st-time GM.

    In retrospect Berry seemed preordained... only real hurdle was being sure that Stef liked him, which he did. Real question is how does the organization work?

    It would seem to be up to Berry to blend the analytic and traditional scouting approaches into player decisions, but those two inputs don't meet at his level. Then add an expanded HC/Staff role in player selection and I don't know what you have.

    Collaboration sounds great, but it isn't a decision process.

    I, too, will be interested in his Intro Presser...

    Until proven otherwise Tour, the Browns organization is FUBAR. You're the management guru. Don't know who previously pointed it out, but looks like Jimmy has too many people reporting directly to him equal in the power structure. If they start infighting it's curtains. I'll give Berry a temporary pass just because he was here during the Sashi debacle. 

    @tiamat63 said:

    Still wondering where DePo fits into the power structure.

    Why, Dope-po, I mean Depodesta is the ace #1 major domo pulling Haslam's strings. At least that's how I see it. I hope to God he wasn't the major factor (other than Jimmy) responsible for the Browns clown show since he arrived on the scene. He's the only other constant. I've said it elsewhere if Stefansky flops, it's the end of Paul- and this time it will be a total Haslam Nuke of everything. Or maybe, Jimmy will finally figure out he doesn't have a clue on how to run an NFL Franchise.... 

    @hoorta said:

    Until proven otherwise Tour, the Browns organization is FUBAR. You're the management guru. Don't know who previously pointed it out, but looks like Jimmy has too many people reporting directly to him equal in the power structure. If they start infighting it's curtains. I'll give Berry a temporary pass just because he was here during the Sashi debacle.

    It's not the number of reports that is a concern... it's the talent level of the person to whom they are all reporting. And based upon the incident rates of infighting in the past there is reason for concern.

    @dutch-oven said:

    I'm thrilled by this hire.

    The Process fans have no "dumb football guys" to blame when this goes down in flames. No Hue backstabbing Sashi, no Dorsey ignoring DePodesta… 

    They have gotten all their boys in all the top positions. It's on. 

    The Process was the "Consensus decision making process". Until we know what the new decision process is nothing is "on".

    As for "dumb football guys"... I'm sure there are still enough in the Scouting Departments, both College and Pro, to keep you happy.

  • Nice to see Jimmah hired the 6th GM under his command....what possibly could go wrong?

    I expect Elliot Wolf will soon be preparing his PowerPoint presentation, as to why he wants out of Cleveland.

  • I don't get the hostility about Berry - Berry wanted the head coach they just hired now. Dorsey was too arrogant for me - Berry seems like a great guy for the head coach etc to work with. No stuffed shirt there.

    We'll see. For the first time - it definitely seems like they are on the right track.

    @calfoxwc said:

    I don't get the hostility about Berry - Berry wanted the head coach they just hired now. Dorsey was too arrogant for me - Berry seems like a great guy for the head coach etc to work with. No stuffed shirt there.

    We'll see. For the first time - it definitely seems like they are on the right track.

    Berry is an awful judge of talent... we basically gave up prime rib in Dorsey.. For skirt steak in Berry.. And this is better how?

  • @calfoxwc said:

    I don't get the hostility about Berry - Berry wanted the head coach they just hired now. Dorsey was too arrogant for me - Berry seems like a great guy for the head coach etc to work with. No stuffed shirt there.

    We'll see. For the first time - it definitely seems like they are on the right track.

    Berry is an awful judge of talent... we basically gave up prime rib in Dorsey.. For skirt steak in Berry.. And this is better how?

    @nickers said:

    Berry is an awful judge of talent... we basically gave up prime rib in Dorsey.. For skirt steak in Berry.. And this is better how?

    Dorsey made major mistakes by allowing the OL to be worse while converting a position coach into a HC with no transition time. Recipe for disaster.

  • @nickers said:

    Berry is an awful judge of talent... we basically gave up prime rib in Dorsey.. For skirt steak in Berry.. And this is better how?

    Dorsey made major mistakes by allowing the OL to be worse while converting a position coach into a HC with no transition time. Recipe for disaster.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Dorsey made major mistakes by allowing the OL to be worse while converting a position coach into a HC with no transition time. Recipe for disaster.

    Thats not enough to fire him...

  • I’ll be surprised if we make 5 or more selections come draft day.

    late arriving GM.  Expect either a massive trade up for a guy they really covet and is a no brainer  or picks moved for players and or future draft capital. 

  • I’ll be surprised if we make 5 or more selections come draft day.

    late arriving GM.  Expect either a massive trade up for a guy they really covet and is a no brainer  or picks moved for players and or future draft capital. 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    I’ll be surprised if we make 5 or more selections come draft day.

    late arriving GM.  Expect either a massive trade up for a guy they really covet and is a no brainer  or picks moved for players and or future draft capital. 

    Don't worry.. we'll draft those incredible SPARQ picks like Cory Coleman again..

  • @7moses7 said:

    Ok someone give us their impression of Ghoolie on the Berry hiring ????

    A name being mentioned a lot around here.

    He must have been quite an influential dude.

    @gorka said:

    A name being mentioned a lot around here.

    He must have been quite an influential dude.

    He got the boot from the board shortly I joined. He was the residential board troll. But from what I gathered...

    - He would have praised our OL this season. He literally thought they ALL offensive line men were useless fat slobs you could get off the street or the 6th round and plug and play. He once called Joe Thomas a JAG (I shit you not)

    -He was a terrible evaluator of QBs. He thought Paxton Lynch was the next coming of John Elway or Jim Kelly

    -Continuing with that last statement he simple thought black males were incapable of playing QB at the professional level. He would make racist and semi-racist comments about them all the time. I guarantee you he would call Patrick Malhomes  "Black Tarkenton" because he assumed all Black Quarterbacks could do was run. I wonder if he will slit his throat after Lamar wins the MVP this year.

    -Anyone in the Front Office or coaching staff was a coffee fetcher, regardless of experience of pedigree.

    -Called Myles Garrett a Zumba instructor because he thought he was a pussy. The same guy that nearly bashed a racist fratboy head in.

    -Was extremely negative more then others (don't blame him) and it rubbed a lot of people the wrong way.

    With that said he was funny sometimes... like in a drunk uncle on Christmas sort of way.There's a ton more but I gotta grab some lunch.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Dorsey made major mistakes by allowing the OL to be worse while converting a position coach into a HC with no transition time. Recipe for disaster.

    Thats not enough to fire him...

    @nickers said:

    Thats not enough to fire him...

    Actually it was. Technically,  Dorsey  wasn't  fired. He was going to be  demoted,  and quit instead. John hung Freddie  out to dry, and didn't  help  him any when it was obvious  he was in  over his head.  It could have  turned out  differently  if Kitchens had been relieved of  his play  calling,  and let Monken have responsibility for that, he was a former  OC after all. 

    Add in some 20/20 hindsight  draft (Corbett, Callaway) and trade (Vernon) snafus,  MHO is a demotion  was  in order. 

  • @nickers said:

    Thats not enough to fire him...

    Actually it was. Technically,  Dorsey  wasn't  fired. He was going to be  demoted,  and quit instead. John hung Freddie  out to dry, and didn't  help  him any when it was obvious  he was in  over his head.  It could have  turned out  differently  if Kitchens had been relieved of  his play  calling,  and let Monken have responsibility for that, he was a former  OC after all. 

    Add in some 20/20 hindsight  draft (Corbett, Callaway) and trade (Vernon) snafus,  MHO is a demotion  was  in order. 

    @hoorta said:

    Actually it was. Technically,  Dorsey  wasn't  fired. He was going to be  demoted,  and quit instead. John hung Freddie  out to dry, and didn't  help  him any when it was obvious  he was in  over his head.  It could have  turned out  differently  if Kitchens had been relieved of  his play  calling,  and let Monken have responsibility for that, he was a former  OC after all. 

    Add in some 20/20 hindsight  draft (Corbett, Callaway) and trade (Vernon) snafus,  MHO is a demotion  was  in order. 

    Doesn't matter... jimmy still owns this shit team.. Thats all you need to know.... I see no improvements ahead...

  • and yet you're still here bitching and moaning in the offseason.    Coach hasn't coached a game..GM hasn't picked a player and they all suck already.   Why bother being here if the team makes you so miserable?  I don't get it.

  • Was mucking around on Cleveland.com and found this article from Dan Labbe- it's three years old (2017) but an interesting read on Mr. Berry. Nice background info.  If he fails, it's not going to be because he's dumb.  🙂   

    https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2017/07/andrew_berry_cleveland_browns.html