Coronavirus and the NFL
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LMAO... Laugh of the day!
I always thought Dutch might make a helluva straight man...
Also Gip's lack of balls are duly noted...
Yea, right......says the Craven King.
again...since you love to quote yourself, show us where you made one single substantive contribution to the discussion? All you have done here is to snark on me. 100% of you is that.
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LMAO... Laugh of the day!
I always thought Dutch might make a helluva straight man...
Also Gip's lack of balls are duly noted...
Yea, right......says the Craven King.
again...since you love to quote yourself, show us where you made one single substantive contribution to the discussion? All you have done here is to snark on me. 100% of you is that.
Yea, right......says the Craven King.
So it's a bet?
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PM of England is 55.
My bad. I was thinking of Price Charles who's 71.....and claims to be on the other side of the illness.
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US has needed an industrial policy since before I was born, and if this is the shock that forces policy changes to promote industries producing goods in the US, then there will at least be some good to come out of this.
The lack of preparedness for this is failing the very definition of "provide for the common good." Pandemics aren't unexpected -- they happen with regularity, and will continue to happen. This virus will come back - and will likely be stacked on top of the normal flu this fall. It's going to be part of life.
We need to keep a stockpile and keep it replenished -- and because the N95 masks are high-end goods, there's margin to pay US wages for factories. Look at Costco's loyalty and profits -- there's a market for companies to advertise lower-than-average exec pay rates.
US lack of response to a pandemic appears to be the historical trend especially in the military.
I am predicting hospital policy changes as well as normal life changes within the US -- becoming more like Asia with the wearing of masks in daily life. I hope our hospitals enact the same policies as Singapore and HK did -- ER patients are met at the door, families wait outside the walls of the hospital [if they want] - nobody inside to ensure no cross-contamination.
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Calling it now: Next season may not happen.
You're going to get it -- the point of quarantine isn't to avoid. The point is to be more like St Louis during the spanish flu of 1919.
In the US at present, 9 out of 10 tests are coming back negative for C.. fun,because you don't get tested unless you have some kind of symptom.. and the only way you keep testing for corona is after you're negative for both flu A and B. If the test throws positive for A, they stop.. and if for B, they stop.
So how exactly do you prevent cross-contamination in a doctor's office == If you've got A and now get corona, you'd better not have any risk factors if you plan to live.
TLDR: Stay away from doctors' offices and ED's for testing.
Medicine has nothing to compensate once you lose certain levels of lung capacity.. there never was and never will be a substitute for a healthy human body. One unfortunate issue is the people who would otherwise survive a trauma [or some such] if they could get a vent, but can't - because the civilian population has trouble accepting or understanding military-level triage. This will take no less than 12-18 months to go thru the entire population until ~70% had it and now have immunity thus R stops being meaningful.
As for testing.. we can't test without the capacity to manufacture those tests, and we can't get treated without the capacity to gown and mask up. It's almost like it was a bad thing to allow all our manufacturing capacity to leave whilst telling ourselves in the mirror that everyone wants to be Just Like Us... patriotism isn't an industrial policy.
Calling it now: Next season may not happen.
You're going to get it -- the point of quarantine isn't to avoid. The point is to be more like St Louis during the spanish flu of 1919.
In the US at present, 9 out of 10 tests are coming back negative for C.. fun,because you don't get tested unless you have some kind of symptom.. and the only way you keep testing for corona is after you're negative for both flu A and B. If the test throws positive for A, they stop.. and if for B, they stop.
So how exactly do you prevent cross-contamination in a doctor's office == If you've got A and now get corona, you'd better not have any risk factors if you plan to live.
TLDR: Stay away from doctors' offices and ED's for testing.
Medicine has nothing to compensate once you lose certain levels of lung capacity.. there never was and never will be a substitute for a healthy human body. One unfortunate issue is the people who would otherwise survive a trauma [or some such] if they could get a vent, but can't - because the civilian population has trouble accepting or understanding military-level triage. This will take no less than 12-18 months to go thru the entire population until ~70% had it and now have immunity thus R stops being meaningful.
As for testing.. we can't test without the capacity to manufacture those tests, and we can't get treated without the capacity to gown and mask up. It's almost like it was a bad thing to allow all our manufacturing capacity to leave whilst telling ourselves in the mirror that everyone wants to be Just Like Us... patriotism isn't an industrial policy.
it will be a miracle if there is an nfl season this yr.....period.....cancelled my eye doctor appt....called my dentist to move my date and they are closed until the middle of may...good for them...smart.....i don't think i rescheduled my yearly physical....went last yr at the end of this month...definetly not going......stay away from healthcare unless it is an emergency.....just an opinion....stay safe...
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Well.... then the USA is screwed...
I never fail to forget just how stressful even managed diabetes is on the body...
We just had a service for one of my former co workers (age 69) who passed away a couple weeks ago from complications due to diabetes. Clogged arteries....
We have a diabetic friend who also just completed radiation for breast cancer. She is severely compromised and at age 70 pretty scared about this virus. I can't blame her one little bit.
And we have one of our wine group ladies that's on chemo for non-smoking lung cancer. She's not leaving the house except for treatment.
The thing that's pretty shocking to me is the hospital my wife works at is cutting hours- because no one is going to the hospital... Go figure that one....
We just had a service for one of my former co workers (age 69) who passed away a couple weeks ago from complications due to diabetes. Clogged arteries....
And we have one of our wine group ladies that's on chemo for non-smoking lung cancer. She's not leaving the house except for treatment.
The thing that's pretty shocking to me is the hospital my wife works at is cutting hours- because no one is going to the hospital... Go figure that one....
everyone is scared....think about it....my wife and i knew 3 people that went into the hospital about 5 yrs ago for simple procedures...they all died...unreal....very sad...they died from infections....the doctors could not even figure out what kind of infections...this is just 3 people that we knew...and the hospitals they were in were considered very good hospitals....they were not dirty filthy facilities....very well known hospitals....now with this virus, it all makes sense...no one wants to take a chance...i don't blame them...you just don't know....i hope it all works out for your wife...she is a trooper no matter what her job is at that hospital....i know you are proud of her....
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Simplicity can also be more "logical." Is it not more logical to have everything based on all units of 10 as opposed to one with various configurations across the board? How many pints in a quart? How many quarts in a gallon? How many yards in a mile? How many ounces in a pound? How many pounds in a ton? No rhyme or reason.
Well...maybe.
But the fact is, if someone says that a place is X kilometers or X meters. away....we still say: well, how far is that really....you know, in miles.
And if they say something weighs X kilograms...we will say: "well, how much does it weigh really...in pounds. Or ounces.
So, as I said, our time system is just as "illogical"....so why are we not on metric time.
Well...maybe.
But the fact is, if someone says that a place is X kilometers or X meters. away....we still say: well, how far is that really....you know, in miles.
And if they say something weighs X kilograms...we will say: "well, how much does it weigh really...in pounds. Or ounces.
So, as I said, our time system is just as "illogical"....so why are we not on metric time.
Regarding the metric system... The USA is one of the last hold outs using Imperial measures. The "we" involves Americans who don't know how to properly wear a face mask, and are too damn stubborn to change. The scientific community long ago went metric. And if you want to work on a bicycle- you had better have metric tools. I'd be willing to bet most cars are almost exclusively metric now too.
Regarding time- as one with an interest in astronomy I can tell you why time isn't metric. It starts because it takes 365.2xxxx "days" for the Earth to take one trip around the sun. A totally logical starting point. BTW, if we threw out a pretty accurate system of leap years, over time you'd have winter weather in July.
There's also a difference between siderial (star) and synodic time. A given star rises roughly 4 minutes earlier every day because of the Earth's rotation around the sun. BTW- the Earth's rotation is slowing down, because of the moon's drag on the Earth. Every so often, we have to add a leap second. Why do we have months? Because from time almost immemorial, months were reckoned on the time it took new moon to new moon- back then they had guys who's only job was to keep a lookout for the new moon-roughly 29.5 days. (29.5 X 12 = 354) So no way to make that jive 10 months to a year. Sort of why 12 months got decided on. Be real fun to make it 10 hours in a day, 10 minutes to an hour, and 10 seconds to a minute.
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Well.... then the USA is screwed...
I never fail to forget just how stressful even managed diabetes is on the body...
We just had a service for one of my former co workers (age 69) who passed away a couple weeks ago from complications due to diabetes. Clogged arteries....
We have a diabetic friend who also just completed radiation for breast cancer. She is severely compromised and at age 70 pretty scared about this virus. I can't blame her one little bit.
And we have one of our wine group ladies that's on chemo for non-smoking lung cancer. She's not leaving the house except for treatment.
The thing that's pretty shocking to me is the hospital my wife works at is cutting hours- because no one is going to the hospital... Go figure that one....
The thing that's pretty shocking to me is the hospital my wife works at is cutting hours- because no one is going to the hospital... Go figure that one....
are they replacing your wife's age group with younger staff members maybe? Reason i ask is? we have 3400 cases in NC now, 22 in our county...My daughter, who is only 26, just got off materity leave...she can't returned to her breast exam job, due to they are closed...the hospitial put her staight to reliefing patient nurses inside the hospitial...scary times for grandpa, with 2 under age 5 grandkids & a real new newborn.. they also made it mantory to shower at sanitized hospitial before going home..Dad instructed her daughter, to do it again when she gets home..#goashleygo!
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Well...maybe.
But the fact is, if someone says that a place is X kilometers or X meters. away....we still say: well, how far is that really....you know, in miles.
And if they say something weighs X kilograms...we will say: "well, how much does it weigh really...in pounds. Or ounces.
So, as I said, our time system is just as "illogical"....so why are we not on metric time.
Regarding the metric system... The USA is one of the last hold outs using Imperial measures. The "we" involves Americans who don't know how to properly wear a face mask, and are too damn stubborn to change. The scientific community long ago went metric. And if you want to work on a bicycle- you had better have metric tools. I'd be willing to bet most cars are almost exclusively metric now too.
Regarding time- as one with an interest in astronomy I can tell you why time isn't metric. It starts because it takes 365.2xxxx "days" for the Earth to take one trip around the sun. A totally logical starting point. BTW, if we threw out a pretty accurate system of leap years, over time you'd have winter weather in July.
There's also a difference between siderial (star) and synodic time. A given star rises roughly 4 minutes earlier every day because of the Earth's rotation around the sun. BTW- the Earth's rotation is slowing down, because of the moon's drag on the Earth. Every so often, we have to add a leap second. Why do we have months? Because from time almost immemorial, months were reckoned on the time it took new moon to new moon- back then they had guys who's only job was to keep a lookout for the new moon-roughly 29.5 days. (29.5 X 12 = 354) So no way to make that jive 10 months to a year. Sort of why 12 months got decided on. Be real fun to make it 10 hours in a day, 10 minutes to an hour, and 10 seconds to a minute.
Regarding the metric system... The USA is one of the last hold outs using Imperial measures. The "we" involves Americans who don't know how to properly wear a face mask, and are too damn stubborn to change. The scientific community long ago went metric. And if you want to work on a bicycle- you had better have metric tools. I'd be willing to bet most cars are almost exclusively metric now too.
Regarding time- as one with an interest in astronomy I can tell you why time isn't metric. It starts because it takes 365.2xxxx "days" for the Earth to take one trip around the sun. A totally logical starting point. BTW, if we threw out a pretty accurate system of leap years, over time you'd have winter weather in July.
There's also a difference between siderial (star) and synodic time. A given star rises roughly 4 minutes earlier every day because of the Earth's rotation around the sun. BTW- the Earth's rotation is slowing down, because of the moon's drag on the Earth. Every so often, we have to add a leap second. Why do we have months? Because from time almost immemorial, months were reckoned on the time it took new moon to new moon- back then they had guys who's only job was to keep a lookout for the new moon-roughly 29.5 days. (29.5 X 12 = 354) So no way to make that jive 10 months to a year. Sort of why 12 months got decided on. Be real fun to make it 10 hours in a day, 10 minutes to an hour, and 10 seconds to a minute.
Well I think the metric time that the French revolutionaries developed would’ve been 100 minutes to an hour and 100 seconds to a minute. But since we don’t really follow the lunar cycle now when it comes to months months why would it matter if we only had 10 months
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The thing that's pretty shocking to me is the hospital my wife works at is cutting hours- because no one is going to the hospital... Go figure that one....
are they replacing your wife's age group with younger staff members maybe? Reason i ask is? we have 3400 cases in NC now, 22 in our county...My daughter, who is only 26, just got off materity leave...she can't returned to her breast exam job, due to they are closed...the hospitial put her staight to reliefing patient nurses inside the hospitial...scary times for grandpa, with 2 under age 5 grandkids & a real new newborn.. they also made it mantory to shower at sanitized hospitial before going home..Dad instructed her daughter, to do it again when she gets home..#goashleygo!
are they replacing your wife's age group with younger staff members maybe?
My son works at a local hospital, he told me that it's slow at his hospital. No one is having elective surgery. And if people get sick (non COVID 19) they don't want to go to a hospital.
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The thing that's pretty shocking to me is the hospital my wife works at is cutting hours- because no one is going to the hospital... Go figure that one....
are they replacing your wife's age group with younger staff members maybe? Reason i ask is? we have 3400 cases in NC now, 22 in our county...My daughter, who is only 26, just got off materity leave...she can't returned to her breast exam job, due to they are closed...the hospitial put her staight to reliefing patient nurses inside the hospitial...scary times for grandpa, with 2 under age 5 grandkids & a real new newborn.. they also made it mantory to shower at sanitized hospitial before going home..Dad instructed her daughter, to do it again when she gets home..#goashleygo!
are they replacing your wife's age group with younger staff members maybe? Reason i ask is? we have 3400 cases in NC now, 22 in our county...My daughter, who is only 26, just got off materity leave...she can't returned to her breast exam job, due to they are closed...the hospitial put her staight to reliefing patient nurses inside the hospitial...scary times for grandpa, with 2 under age 5 grandkids & a real new newborn.. they also made it mantory to shower at sanitized hospitial before going home..Dad instructed her daughter, to do it again when she gets home..#goashleygo!
My wife is the second and third shift laboratory supervisor. Thankfully, she has zero direct patient contact. Most of the lab employees who work in that time frame are in a younger age group. Labs long ago adopted the policy treat any samples that come in as potentially infectious. They just brought Corona virus testing in house. It's reserved for cases the Docs deem "highly suspicious ". Five out of 30 were positive. What that means, they don't have to slap the 25 negative patients in super isolation, saving resources. BTW, so far there's been no indications Corona is transmitted by blood, unlike HIV or hepatitis which are easily transmitted by that route. They're even trying an experimental procedure transfusing plasma from folks who have recovered from covid (theoretically they've developed Corona antibodies) to people who are showing serious symptoms. MHO is it can't hurt, and is at least worth a shot. You can bet there's a lab out there working overtime trying to develop a process to clone those antibodies.
What her hospital is doing is taking temperatures of everyone as they enter and leave. Not normal? You don't come in, or aren't allowed to come back. And if you're at home and not feeling well, you're automatically told to not show up for at least 5 days after until you are.
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are they replacing your wife's age group with younger staff members maybe? Reason i ask is? we have 3400 cases in NC now, 22 in our county...My daughter, who is only 26, just got off materity leave...she can't returned to her breast exam job, due to they are closed...the hospitial put her staight to reliefing patient nurses inside the hospitial...scary times for grandpa, with 2 under age 5 grandkids & a real new newborn.. they also made it mantory to shower at sanitized hospitial before going home..Dad instructed her daughter, to do it again when she gets home..#goashleygo!
My wife is the second and third shift laboratory supervisor. Thankfully, she has zero direct patient contact. Most of the lab employees who work in that time frame are in a younger age group. Labs long ago adopted the policy treat any samples that come in as potentially infectious. They just brought Corona virus testing in house. It's reserved for cases the Docs deem "highly suspicious ". Five out of 30 were positive. What that means, they don't have to slap the 25 negative patients in super isolation, saving resources. BTW, so far there's been no indications Corona is transmitted by blood, unlike HIV or hepatitis which are easily transmitted by that route. They're even trying an experimental procedure transfusing plasma from folks who have recovered from covid (theoretically they've developed Corona antibodies) to people who are showing serious symptoms. MHO is it can't hurt, and is at least worth a shot. You can bet there's a lab out there working overtime trying to develop a process to clone those antibodies.
What her hospital is doing is taking temperatures of everyone as they enter and leave. Not normal? You don't come in, or aren't allowed to come back. And if you're at home and not feeling well, you're automatically told to not show up for at least 5 days after until you are.
They're even trying an experimental procedure transfusing plasma from folks who have recovered from covid (theoretically they've developed Corona antibodies) to people who are showing serious symptoms.
But there have been cases of people who've recovered, tested negative, and then later test positive and have it again.
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They're even trying an experimental procedure transfusing plasma from folks who have recovered from covid (theoretically they've developed Corona antibodies) to people who are showing serious symptoms.
But there have been cases of people who've recovered, tested negative, and then later test positive and have it again.
But there have been cases of people who've recovered, tested negative, and then later test positive and have it again.
That wouldn't bode well for developing a vaccine. It's a moving target- To think we know everything about this virus in six months would be pretty naive.
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Nero did.
Oh the irony.
I know Nero said it.....I was referring to what I was talking about: the lack of preparedness, and the need to be better prepared in the future.
I don't know that the UK was any better prepared than the US or Spain....so this shit may just be starting for you all. Be safe.
I know Nero said it.....I was referring to what I was talking about: the lack of preparedness, and the need to be better prepared in the future.
I don't know that the UK was any better prepared than the US or Spain....so this shit may just be starting for you all. Be safe.
If you knew he said it why are you asking him who said it? ?
I read more than I post on here and Nero comes over as a nice guy and fair poster that's why I've came to his defence here. Perhaps if you clarified what people are saying and why they are saying it, before going 'off on one', then you wouldn't need to be so aggressive in forcing your opinion down everyone's throat.
Keep safe.
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Well...maybe.
But the fact is, if someone says that a place is X kilometers or X meters. away....we still say: well, how far is that really....you know, in miles.
And if they say something weighs X kilograms...we will say: "well, how much does it weigh really...in pounds. Or ounces.
So, as I said, our time system is just as "illogical"....so why are we not on metric time.
Regarding the metric system... The USA is one of the last hold outs using Imperial measures. The "we" involves Americans who don't know how to properly wear a face mask, and are too damn stubborn to change. The scientific community long ago went metric. And if you want to work on a bicycle- you had better have metric tools. I'd be willing to bet most cars are almost exclusively metric now too.
Regarding time- as one with an interest in astronomy I can tell you why time isn't metric. It starts because it takes 365.2xxxx "days" for the Earth to take one trip around the sun. A totally logical starting point. BTW, if we threw out a pretty accurate system of leap years, over time you'd have winter weather in July.
There's also a difference between siderial (star) and synodic time. A given star rises roughly 4 minutes earlier every day because of the Earth's rotation around the sun. BTW- the Earth's rotation is slowing down, because of the moon's drag on the Earth. Every so often, we have to add a leap second. Why do we have months? Because from time almost immemorial, months were reckoned on the time it took new moon to new moon- back then they had guys who's only job was to keep a lookout for the new moon-roughly 29.5 days. (29.5 X 12 = 354) So no way to make that jive 10 months to a year. Sort of why 12 months got decided on. Be real fun to make it 10 hours in a day, 10 minutes to an hour, and 10 seconds to a minute.
There's also a difference between siderial (star) and synodic time.
As IF we all did not know that... pfft... C'mon, h, that's insulting...
Did anybody know that? I didn't know that...
If you knew he said it why are you asking him who said it? ?
He didn't because to do so would mean having to read an entire 5-line post...
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I know Nero said it.....I was referring to what I was talking about: the lack of preparedness, and the need to be better prepared in the future.
I don't know that the UK was any better prepared than the US or Spain....so this shit may just be starting for you all. Be safe.
If you knew he said it why are you asking him who said it? ?
I read more than I post on here and Nero comes over as a nice guy and fair poster that's why I've came to his defence here. Perhaps if you clarified what people are saying and why they are saying it, before going 'off on one', then you wouldn't need to be so aggressive in forcing your opinion down everyone's throat.
Keep safe.
If you knew he said it why are you asking him who said it? ?
You need to take things in context by reading the preceding thread wherein we were talking about domestic production of PPE and ventilators. then he diverted into about how bad it was that the ventilators were being confiscated. And my comment here was "who was talking about that"...the context being....that that was never even a point of discussion (in fact I didn't even know it had happened.)...the question I guess should have been "who else here is talking about that?"
Again....read things in context...don't jump into the middle or end of a conversation and make ASSumptions about what has been said before without having the full picture.
I read more than I post on here and Nero comes over as a nice guy and fair poster that's why I've came to his defence here. Perhaps if you clarified what people are saying and why they are saying it, before going 'off on one', then you wouldn't need to be so aggressive in forcing your opinion down everyone's throat.
Take a chill pill Gomer or some of that sour wine you are touting. I can clarify what I am saying......but I can't account for what others say. And, again, if you would take things in their context...instead of, again, making those assumptions, perhaps THAT would clear things up for you.
Keep safe.
You too.
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There's also a difference between siderial (star) and synodic time.
As IF we all did not know that... pfft... C'mon, h, that's insulting...
Did anybody know that? I didn't know that...
If you knew he said it why are you asking him who said it? ?
He didn't because to do so would mean having to read an entire 5-line post...
As IF we all did not know that... pfft... C'mon, h, that's insulting...
Did anybody know that? I didn't know that...
He didn't because to do so would mean having to read an entire 5-line post...
Again, not a word of contribution to the issue. Just kunthole snark.
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RIP - and thank you!
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