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The Steelers like Rudolph. I'm not sold on the guy but I haven't given up on him either.
what's your thoughts on your OL after Munchak was released? and why the hell was he released? with Ben, I see 24 total sacks in 2018..Than, Ben counted for 2 sacks in 2019, but i see a increase to 32 sacks total in 2019..
what's your thoughts on your OL after Munchak was released? and why the hell was he released? with Ben, I see 24 total sacks in 2018..Than, Ben counted for 2 sacks in 2019, but i see a increase to 32 sacks total in 2019..
Munchak may have been the best OL coach in the league. But, to be fair to Pittsburgh, Munchak was not "released" by them. His contract was up, and he was essentially a free agent and could sign a contract with anyone. He chose not to stay in Pisstown, going to Denver instead. Why? Money maybe? He says it was "family". Here is a article quote:
Mike Munchak thought coaching the Steelers offensive line would be the place to finish out his life’s work until he retired.
And then came the chance to be with his family again in the same city, Denver, an opportunity he could not pass up.
“As my career shows, when I get somewhere, I stay there,’’ Munchak said during an interview with the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette Tuesday afternoon. “When this opportunity came up to work in a city with my daughter, her husband, my granddaughter and my other daughter not far away in L.A., that’s what we wanted.
“I’m not 30 or 40 years old anymore. I’m 58 and different things become important as you age.”
So, I guess you take him at his word. I had actually hoped the Browns would look at him for HC before the hired Ferd.
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Not only were they down to a 4th string QB last year, but their skill players units were decimated as well. If Ben is back, the only legit loss is Hargrave. But at this point, and all the craziness going on, it's a total guess on where they will be if we do have a season. Only safe bet is that Balt. will still be the lead dog in the north. I've never seen a 14-2 team add so much talent. It blows my mind.
Well....it may be a safe bet that Crabburg will take the division....but by no means would I say it is a sure bet.
And, as I said....they..the Steelers that is, lost a main cog on their defense....so they have upgraded nowhere else (except probably with Ebron). It ALL depends on BR being his 10 year ago self.
Well....it may be a safe bet that Crabburg will take the division....but by no means would I say it is a sure bet.
And, as I said....they..the Steelers that is, lost a main cog on their defense....so they have upgraded nowhere else (except probably with Ebron). It ALL depends on BR being his 10 year ago self.
Hmmm, I think I see what Vag was talking about: You seem to make up stuff as you go.
Upgraded nowhere?
- Will begin the season with a Hall of Fame QB instead of an undrafted, 4th string rookie. No upgrade there.
- Will have Conner and McFarland as upgrades to RB. Snell in 2nd year. (Incase you forgot, McFarland destroyed OSU's D while at MD). Now the Steelers have that guy.
- Will have JuJu and Claypool (6-6, 240, 4.42 speed) at WR. Johnson no longer a rookie, Washington came on strong with no QB last year.
- Will have upgrade at LG, no matter who is the starter.
- Upgrade at TE in Ebron.
- Upgrade DE in Tuitt.
- Upgrade at ILB as Bush in his 2nd year, will be dominant.
Even if Ben goes down, Mason in 3rd year will be upgrade over the QBs of last year. If you want to "whistle past the graveyard," cool.
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Well....it may be a safe bet that Crabburg will take the division....but by no means would I say it is a sure bet.
And, as I said....they..the Steelers that is, lost a main cog on their defense....so they have upgraded nowhere else (except probably with Ebron). It ALL depends on BR being his 10 year ago self.
Hmmm, I think I see what Vag was talking about: You seem to make up stuff as you go.
Upgraded nowhere?
- Will begin the season with a Hall of Fame QB instead of an undrafted, 4th string rookie. No upgrade there.
- Will have Conner and McFarland as upgrades to RB. Snell in 2nd year. (Incase you forgot, McFarland destroyed OSU's D while at MD). Now the Steelers have that guy.
- Will have JuJu and Claypool (6-6, 240, 4.42 speed) at WR. Johnson no longer a rookie, Washington came on strong with no QB last year.
- Will have upgrade at LG, no matter who is the starter.
- Upgrade at TE in Ebron.
- Upgrade DE in Tuitt.
- Upgrade at ILB as Bush in his 2nd year, will be dominant.
Even if Ben goes down, Mason in 3rd year will be upgrade over the QBs of last year. If you want to "whistle past the graveyard," cool.
Hmmm, I think I see what Vag was talking about: You seem to make up stuff as you go.
I certainly am NOT making shit up. Though there may be shit coming out of your ears.
Upgraded nowhere?
By upgraded "nowhere" I was talking about bringing in better FA talent than what they had on hand. They didn't do that anywhere except at TE.
- Will begin the season with a Hall of Fame QB instead of an undrafted, 4th string rookie. No upgrade there.
Hello, McFly, is anybody home? Do you pay ONE bit of attention to what I type? I constantly have repeated that BR being back is the entire crux to that team competing.
- Will have Conner and McFarland as upgrades to RB. Snell in 2nd year. (Incase you forgot, McFarland destroyed OSU's D while at MD). Now the Steelers have that guy.
Conner has been the starter on that team for 2 years. And by upgrade...I am talking veteran Free Agency, not rookies. EVERY team had a rookie draft. Every rookie drafted could bring a potential upgrade. I can claim, and probably would claim that all the rookies drafted by the Browns could be far better prospects than those signed by the STeelers. Sure, a guy like McFarland could come and do well....but I will take having Kareem Hunt in full time over him.
Again, I am not saying rookies can't be good. And I asked Vag to tell us how that team's rookies could help, but for what we were doing here, like I said, we were not evaluating rookies.
- Will have JuJu and Claypool (6-6, 240, 4.42 speed) at WR. Johnson no longer a rookie, Washington came on strong with no QB last year.
Again...Claypool....rookie. We don't know if Claypool will be any better than our rookie WR. And those other two are by no means proven to be beyond MOR. Smith in fact seemed to regress some. (maybe had to do with the QB.)
- Will have upgrade at LG, no matter who is the starter.
Will they? HOw so? Not saying you are wrong...just asking you to defend your position
- Upgrade at TE in Ebron.
We already agreed on that.
- Upgrade DE in Tuitt.
Getting guys back from injury/suspension helps.....we have 4 guys in that situation.
- Upgrade at ILB as Bush in his 2nd year, will be dominant.
Maybe. But he was a starter last year. Every player on every team is a year older and maybe more experienced. We could say the same thing about Wilson, Takitaki, Greedy, Redwine...yada yada yada.
Even if Ben goes down, Mason in 3rd year will be upgrade over the QBs of last year. If you want to "whistle past the graveyard," cool.
Uh, OK, maybe he will be better than last year. Maybe. FYI, I was high on him coming out of college, but I don't know how much support you will get here with that position.
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Well....it may be a safe bet that Crabburg will take the division....but by no means would I say it is a sure bet.
And, as I said....they..the Steelers that is, lost a main cog on their defense....so they have upgraded nowhere else (except probably with Ebron). It ALL depends on BR being his 10 year ago self.
Hmmm, I think I see what Vag was talking about: You seem to make up stuff as you go.
Upgraded nowhere?
- Will begin the season with a Hall of Fame QB instead of an undrafted, 4th string rookie. No upgrade there.
- Will have Conner and McFarland as upgrades to RB. Snell in 2nd year. (Incase you forgot, McFarland destroyed OSU's D while at MD). Now the Steelers have that guy.
- Will have JuJu and Claypool (6-6, 240, 4.42 speed) at WR. Johnson no longer a rookie, Washington came on strong with no QB last year.
- Will have upgrade at LG, no matter who is the starter.
- Upgrade at TE in Ebron.
- Upgrade DE in Tuitt.
- Upgrade at ILB as Bush in his 2nd year, will be dominant.
Even if Ben goes down, Mason in 3rd year will be upgrade over the QBs of last year. If you want to "whistle past the graveyard," cool.
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I'm not going to line by line break this down as I'm not in the mood. Our roster without Ben was and is already very good.
Good enough for only 8-8.
Mark barron nor artie burns will be missed. Burns never saw the field and by all intents and purposes is a first round bust. Barron was a stop gap and the steelers drafted bush.
Who did they replace Burns and Barron with? Barron was a safety and Bush is an LB...so that is not a direct replacement.
Hargrave is an absolute animal which is why he was paid as much as he was on the open market BUT he was miscast in our defense as he's more of a 43 lineman than a 34.
Well, OK, you lost his talent without replacing it from what I see (except perhaps with an unproven rookie)
Foster was reaalllly steady but he was on the back nine and I'm guessing he had a talk with the front office and decided to retire rather than get let go.
Again...who was picked up to replace him?
As far as Ben is concerned who knows but when you have wr's talking about how the ball is whistling when he throws it I'm guessing there isn't much to worry about with Ben unless the contact reagravates his elbow.
A wishin and a hopin, Dusty. I say it is 50/50 that he is back to close to where he was.
You are correct the steelers didn't have a first round pick. We traded it for one of the best free safeties in the NFL. MASSIVE win as our pick was nowhere near top ten like the dolphins gambled that it would be with our qb revolving door.
But, again, you had Fitzpatrick last year. Not denying his talent...just saying that he is a holdover, not an upgrade from a year ago.
Our defense is on the cusp of absolutely ridiculous, 2008 good if not better.
More a dreamin and a prayin. You may be right...or you may not.
People also always talk about the cap hell and the steelers are always able to navigate it.
Well...everybody "navigates it" somehow or another. Remains to be seen which port that ship comes into.
If things were so dire they wouldn't have signed Ebron.
Well...you dumped all those other 4-5 guys including TE Vanett and were able to sign Ebron to replace him. Not sure how the money worked out....but it may have been at best a wash.
As far as juju is concerned he got hurt but also had Mason rudolph who still isn't ready and duck who while is a feel good story and a great guy with the moxie he isn't a nfl starter.
It was your own writer that said juju wasn't what he was without AB there.
You should also pay some attention to diontae Johnson who unless I'm mistaken has the best separation rate in the NFL last season.
Every team in the division has 2-3 of those guys....guys you think could be really good WRs. We have 2-3 ourselves who could be just as good or better (and I am not talking about the likes of the proven guys like OBJ/Jarvis...I mean like Ratley, Taylor, Sunshine Superman)
Frankly he very well could become Antonio Brown 2.0
or not.
and if the steelers do anything at a exemplary level it's draft wr's.
That is a Pollyana view. For every guy that turns out good you also have your Dri Archers, Martavis Bryant's, Markus Wheatons, Limas Sweed. I don't think anyone has drafted more WRs in the last 10-12 years, so some of them do work out. The ONLY one I really give great credit on is Brown. None of the others have proven to be great receivers. A couple of good ones, A lot of unproven ones.
You keep sleeping on the steelers tho gipper. I will be nicer about it than normal when you are wrong.
They were 8-8. They have missed the playoffs the last two years. They had the 30th ranked offense last year. I don't know if a return of BR gets them into the top half even offensively. They did have a highly rated defense....but again, lost a few stalwarts there. And still relying on Joe Haden...It is not that I am sleeping on them...its just that I am looking realistically at them.
CAN they improve from 8-8 with BR back? Perhaps slightly. They DO have a winning HC.....he was the reason last season didn't see the Steelers sink to like 4-12. Having Tomlin is a better bet for you than wishing and hoping BR is back to form. ??
I looked at a half dozen sites like ESPN, Bleacher Report etc. that all gave the division to the Ratfuckers...and had the Browns and Steelers fighting it out for 2d place.
We shall see....hopefully, if they play.
I looked at a half dozen sites like ESPN, Bleacher Report etc. that all gave the division to the Ratfuckers...and had the Browns and Steelers fighting it out for 2d place.
We shall see....hopefully, if they play.
On one of the national talk shows the other day it was pointed out that the Rats have both the easiest schedule and the least amount of travel time in the NFL.
At least in this division they won't have cakewalks like the Pats did for at least a decade, maybe longer.
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I looked at a half dozen sites like ESPN, Bleacher Report etc. that all gave the division to the Ratfuckers...and had the Browns and Steelers fighting it out for 2d place.
We shall see....hopefully, if they play.
On one of the national talk shows the other day it was pointed out that the Rats have both the easiest schedule and the least amount of travel time in the NFL.
At least in this division they won't have cakewalks like the Pats did for at least a decade, maybe longer.
On one of the national talk shows the other day it was pointed out that the Rats have both the easiest schedule and the least amount of travel time in the NFL.
At least in this division they won't have cakewalks like the Pats did for at least a decade, maybe longer.
Vegas win predictions are Bslt. 11.5, Pgh 9 and Browns at 8. That's about how I'd call it, with every team having the capability to win 2 less or 2 more. Balt. had 14 wins last year AND added some good talent; Dobbins and Duvernay were both steals. Plus adding Campbell on DL is just sick. He's a beast. Oh, and Queen at ILB. I'd favor Balt. to win AFC.
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It's kind of funny to consider how close John Harbaugh allegedly was to losing his job not all that long ago.
Now the Ravens are considered the class of the AFC North.
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The Steelers like Rudolph. I'm not sold on the guy but I haven't given up on him either.
what's your thoughts on your OL after Munchak was released? and why the hell was he released? with Ben, I see 24 total sacks in 2018..Than, Ben counted for 2 sacks in 2019, but i see a increase to 32 sacks total in 2019..
what's your thoughts on your OL after Munchak was released? and why the hell was he released? with Ben, I see 24 total sacks in 2018..Than, Ben counted for 2 sacks in 2019, but i see a increase to 32 sacks total in 2019..
Well the increase in sacks is because of Rudolph and duck under center and defenses pinning their ears back and going for broke. Munchak also wasn't released. He was going to resign with the steelers. The paperwork was drawn up but unsigned and according to Munchak and his nephew who posts on the steelers sub reddit when Denver called he signed with them because his daughter is in Colorado. He would otherwise still be on the steelers staff. The jury is still out on sarrett his replacement. It's not fair to judge him or the line for that matter with the massive inconsistency under center. Losing munch was a major blow no matter how you shake it tho. He's a legendary line coach.
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Well....it may be a safe bet that Crabburg will take the division....but by no means would I say it is a sure bet.
And, as I said....they..the Steelers that is, lost a main cog on their defense....so they have upgraded nowhere else (except probably with Ebron). It ALL depends on BR being his 10 year ago self.
Hmmm, I think I see what Vag was talking about: You seem to make up stuff as you go.
Upgraded nowhere?
- Will begin the season with a Hall of Fame QB instead of an undrafted, 4th string rookie. No upgrade there.
- Will have Conner and McFarland as upgrades to RB. Snell in 2nd year. (Incase you forgot, McFarland destroyed OSU's D while at MD). Now the Steelers have that guy.
- Will have JuJu and Claypool (6-6, 240, 4.42 speed) at WR. Johnson no longer a rookie, Washington came on strong with no QB last year.
- Will have upgrade at LG, no matter who is the starter.
- Upgrade at TE in Ebron.
- Upgrade DE in Tuitt.
- Upgrade at ILB as Bush in his 2nd year, will be dominant.
Even if Ben goes down, Mason in 3rd year will be upgrade over the QBs of last year. If you want to "whistle past the graveyard," cool.
Hmmm, I think I see what Vag was talking about: You seem to make up stuff as you go.
Upgraded nowhere?
- Will begin the season with a Hall of Fame QB instead of an undrafted, 4th string rookie. No upgrade there.
- Will have Conner and McFarland as upgrades to RB. Snell in 2nd year. (Incase you forgot, McFarland destroyed OSU's D while at MD). Now the Steelers have that guy.
- Will have JuJu and Claypool (6-6, 240, 4.42 speed) at WR. Johnson no longer a rookie, Washington came on strong with no QB last year.
- Will have upgrade at LG, no matter who is the starter.
- Upgrade at TE in Ebron.
- Upgrade DE in Tuitt.
- Upgrade at ILB as Bush in his 2nd year, will be dominant.
Even if Ben goes down, Mason in 3rd year will be upgrade over the QBs of last year. If you want to "whistle past the graveyard," cool.
It's just how gip puts it down when he's talking to me. I don't know if this is how he talks when taking the steelers with everyone or just when he talks to me. I'm turning over a new leaf and going to do my best to be civil but gipper has made it pretty clear on now countless occasions he doesn't watch a lot of division football unless it's the Browns. The Steelers have a very good roster and a team culture the Browns nor the Bengals possess. Hell not even the Ravens are on that same page despite how the Ravens draft (thank Ozzie Newsome)
We shall see what happens. We may not even have a season this year but old gip dawg has been underselling the steelers for as long as I've been on this board which goes back to I think 2004-2006 on a different name. They won two super bowls and went to a third in that frame. I still have a dollar bill in my wallet my buddy bet me as I don't like to gamble that the steelers wouldn't make the playoffs when they won xl because he was convinced they couldn't win with that line. I get it, hating the steelers is in the Cleveland DNA.
Edit: I expect very little from Claypool this season. Diontae Johnson outside of juju is the one to watch. Washington will be good too. Diontae Johnson has the ability to be antonio brown 2.0. He had the best separation rate in the league last year.
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Alright Vagitron... I'd like for you to breakdown the Browns offseason and what you like and dislike about their roster.
I'll be interested to see your POV on the Browns.
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Alright Vagitron... I'd like for you to breakdown the Browns offseason and what you like and dislike about their roster.
I'll be interested to see your POV on the Browns.
Alright Vagitron... I'd like for you to breakdown the Browns offseason and what you like and dislike about their roster.
I'll be interested to see your POV on the Browns.
If I don't do it over the next couple days remind me with a dm or a bump in here.
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Alright Vagitron... I'd like for you to breakdown the Browns offseason and what you like and dislike about their roster.
I'll be interested to see your POV on the Browns.
If I don't do it over the next couple days remind me with a dm or a bump in here.
If I don't do it over the next couple days remind me with a dm or a bump in here.
Yeah, no rush... take your time.
I have a feeling we'll have plenty of it.
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Yeah, no rush... take your time.
I have a feeling we'll have plenty of it.
Ha, who knows. We closed our store voluntarily for almost three months. People have learned nothing from the first shelter in and now with this second emergence I think a lot of people are really going to pay for it. I go nowhere publicly without a mask unless I'm open air and can distance without issue.
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It's kind of funny to consider how close John Harbaugh allegedly was to losing his job not all that long ago.
Now the Ravens are considered the class of the AFC North.
It's kind of funny to consider how close John Harbaugh allegedly was to losing his job not all that long ago.
Now the Ravens are considered the class of the AFC North.
I have to hand it to him. That team has been tough almost every year.
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Hmmm, I think I see what Vag was talking about: You seem to make up stuff as you go.
Upgraded nowhere?
- Will begin the season with a Hall of Fame QB instead of an undrafted, 4th string rookie. No upgrade there.
- Will have Conner and McFarland as upgrades to RB. Snell in 2nd year. (Incase you forgot, McFarland destroyed OSU's D while at MD). Now the Steelers have that guy.
- Will have JuJu and Claypool (6-6, 240, 4.42 speed) at WR. Johnson no longer a rookie, Washington came on strong with no QB last year.
- Will have upgrade at LG, no matter who is the starter.
- Upgrade at TE in Ebron.
- Upgrade DE in Tuitt.
- Upgrade at ILB as Bush in his 2nd year, will be dominant.
Even if Ben goes down, Mason in 3rd year will be upgrade over the QBs of last year. If you want to "whistle past the graveyard," cool.
It's just how gip puts it down when he's talking to me. I don't know if this is how he talks when taking the steelers with everyone or just when he talks to me. I'm turning over a new leaf and going to do my best to be civil but gipper has made it pretty clear on now countless occasions he doesn't watch a lot of division football unless it's the Browns. The Steelers have a very good roster and a team culture the Browns nor the Bengals possess. Hell not even the Ravens are on that same page despite how the Ravens draft (thank Ozzie Newsome)
We shall see what happens. We may not even have a season this year but old gip dawg has been underselling the steelers for as long as I've been on this board which goes back to I think 2004-2006 on a different name. They won two super bowls and went to a third in that frame. I still have a dollar bill in my wallet my buddy bet me as I don't like to gamble that the steelers wouldn't make the playoffs when they won xl because he was convinced they couldn't win with that line. I get it, hating the steelers is in the Cleveland DNA.
Edit: I expect very little from Claypool this season. Diontae Johnson outside of juju is the one to watch. Washington will be good too. Diontae Johnson has the ability to be antonio brown 2.0. He had the best separation rate in the league last year.
It's just how gip puts it down when he's talking to me.
Yes...I put down facts....you put down wishes and hopes.
I don't know if this is how he talks when taking the steelers with everyone or just when he talks to me.
Everyone...trust me, you are no one I treat special. (Most of the Spermsucker suckers don't come around...at least you do that. )
I'm turning over a new leaf and going to do my best to be civil but gipper has made it pretty clear on now countless occasions he doesn't watch a lot of division football unless it's the Browns.
What is clear that you don't even know your own team as well as I know your team at times.
The Steelers have a very good roster
They may have a good roster...or what they have is an 8-8 i.e mediocre roster when they do not have an HOF QB playing for them.
and a team culture the Browns nor the Bengals possess.
Yes, they have had a team culture better than the Browns and Bengals....but you know what a good culture consists of? A quality coach/asst. coaches...like Cowher/Tomlin/LeBeau/Munchak and a good QB. Obviously things the Browns have not had. But that may have changed.
Hell not even the Ravens are on that same page despite how the Ravens draft (thank Ozzie Newsome)
What are you saying here? IMO the Ravens have a better coach and maybe the better QB at this point.
We shall see what happens. We may not even have a season this year but old gip dawg has been underselling the steelers for as long as I've been on this board which goes back to I think 2004-2006 on a different name.
No, I think I have only been "underselling them" since Dick LeBeau left. I never undersold that defense when he was there. I had more faith in him than you did in fact.
They won two super bowls and went to a third in that frame.
Not in the time frame I am talking about.
I still have a dollar bill in my wallet my buddy bet me as I don't like to gamble that the steelers wouldn't make the playoffs when they won xl because he was convinced they couldn't win with that line. I get it, hating the steelers is in the Cleveland DNA.
Actually, no, I don't think you get it at all. We don't necessarily hate the Steelers. We primarily hate how stupid their fans are....they are kind of the MAGA of the football world (except with more competency to root for)
Edit: I expect very little from Claypool this season. Diontae Johnson outside of juju is the one to watch. Washington will be good too. Diontae Johnson has the ability to be antonio brown 2.0. He had the best separation rate in the league last year.
You keep saying that...and it mean absolutely nothing. Where is it that you come up with that so called statistical measurement? I mean, what? Is he getting a divorce?
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Alright Vagitron... I'd like for you to breakdown the Browns offseason and what you like and dislike about their roster.
I'll be interested to see your POV on the Browns.
Alright Vagitron... I'd like for you to breakdown the Browns offseason and what you like and dislike about their roster.
I'll be interested to see your POV on the Browns.
Hell....I asked him to break down the Steelers roster a couple of days ago. He apparently can't do that, what makes you think he can break down the Browns roster.
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Alright Vagitron... I'd like for you to breakdown the Browns offseason and what you like and dislike about their roster.
I'll be interested to see your POV on the Browns.
Hell....I asked him to break down the Steelers roster a couple of days ago. He apparently can't do that, what makes you think he can break down the Browns roster.
Hell....I asked him to break down the Steelers roster a couple of days ago. He apparently can't do that, what makes you think he can break down the Browns roster.
I asked nicely. ?
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It's kind of funny to consider how close John Harbaugh allegedly was to losing his job not all that long ago.
Now the Ravens are considered the class of the AFC North.
I have to hand it to him. That team has been tough almost every year.
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I'm sorry, did I somehow give you an indication I suddenly care about your opinion? If I did, my sincerest apologies.
Oh, such a great contribution to content. Way to just add pollution to the board. Delusions of grandeur. What, no more Nazi grammar while misspelling words in the process? LMFAO.
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Alright Vagitron... I'd like for you to breakdown the Browns offseason and what you like and dislike about their roster.
I'll be interested to see your POV on the Browns.
Hell....I asked him to break down the Steelers roster a couple of days ago. He apparently can't do that, what makes you think he can break down the Browns roster.
Hell....I asked him to break down the Steelers roster a couple of days ago. He apparently can't do that, what makes you think he can break down the Browns roster.
Gipper investing a bunch of time responding to you isn't necessarily worth it to me because of the way you handle it. I'd take the time to breakdown the roster and you'd still tell me I'm wrong and you are right, no concessions will be made just "well no, this is what I think" and I don't believe many people here would disagree with that assessment. I want an actual conversation. I'm still going to be nice and handle things in a civil manner but when it comes to football I find you incorrigible. I'm happy we agree on things outside of football.
The last line is a prime example. The ability for a receiver to separate from the dB is actually a measured stat and johnson leads the entire nfl. If you so choose go watch a basic highlight. Joe haden himself said he loves playing against him in practice because his release and route running is so unpredictable. His highlights look like young antonio brown.
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that cross eyed homo should be lucky the XFL folded...
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