***Official Gameday Thread Browns at Ravens
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Lost in all of this talk about the offense, I'd like to turn my attention to the defense.
I think Joe Woods is a solid coach and I like some of the things I've seen from his tape in Denver. But Unless this is some weird long term play to see if Baltimore would put as much on film for a later game that might have playoff implications... (can't imagine it being that) It was a master class in watching Greg Roman whoop his ass. Either that or a man in such a complete fear of being embarrassed in the backend, that he forget that he's playing against a QB with a sub 50% completion rate when pressured. Seriously, the amount of space he let the Ravens have to operate Sunday is completely unacceptable right from the very first snap. The man had a game plan that, if I didn't know who the QB was, I would have presumed it was Aaron fucking Rogers given the depth of our DB's and the respect paid to the QB's passing ability.
You made Lamar a better passer by giving him enough time to finish and e-sign his 2019 tax return the majority of the first half.
I'm hoping this is a big case of Stef and Woods just being out of their element with the shortened off season and injuries. Because as play-callers, a couple people on this board could have done better. And that is zero hyperbole from me.
Lost in all of this talk about the offense, I'd like to turn my attention to the defense.
I don't have it in me to discuss the defense. The 99 yard drive says it all, and I can't bring up anything else. You know what's REALLY strange? Our defense lead the entire league in pass pressure percentage. We forced Lamar under pressure 50% of the time, which was tops.
And it didn't matter one bit.
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Is it safe to say that we can pretty much throw out completion percentage in college in the trash as an indicator of a QBs "accuracy".
Brandon Weeden and Baker Mayfield had ridiculous completion percentages in college due to offenses that schemed people wide open. In the NFL, they've struggled to hit the broad side of a barn. Hell, even in Mayfield's rookie season, I thought he got a lot of help from his receivers.
Is it safe to say that we can pretty much throw out completion percentage in college in the trash as an indicator of a QBs "accuracy".
If you really want to be pissed off, go back and watch the throws Kyler Murray made to Deondre Hopkins. New star WR in a new system...but he had 15 catches for 150 yards. Murray made throws that Baker can only dream of.
Go back and watch some of the throws Cousins made. Ben made. Heck, even Joe Burrow made multiple big time throws at the end of the game to almost beat the Bolts. In fact, the Bengals are saying they feel like they won that game and they can't WAIT to play Cleveland Thursday. You guys think OUR guys are excited about playing? Hell no. There's so much pressure on our team that you wouldn't be able to pound a needle up our asses with a 10 pound hammer.
Baker does NOT get a "pass" against the Ravens. If anything, our crappy defense does because we played the Ravens and we had so many injuries. I can't imagine how tight Baker will be this week. Remember when he was playing well forever ago and he was just out there having fun? Running down the field? Screaming and feeling dangerous? God that seems like forever ago doesn't it?
Yeah, it's one game, but it's really a bit more than that. It's really game 17 that carried over from last year.
Oh, and screw you OBJ. Oh yeah, I nearly forgot. Screw YOU Hodges. That asshole got a false start on a play that was designed for him. Ravens' star CB just went out due to injury, OBJ went out for SOME reason, we had a deep shot dialed up for freaking HODGES and he got so excited that he jumped early like an asshole. Next play? Backwards again. Hello 3rd and 41.
3rd....and...41. Yes, that happened. Then, we punt the ball down to the 1 yard line, they go 99, goodnight Irene.
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I think the Bengals beat our ass. We don’t have a team out there. Idk what we have. The bengals played better than us week 1. I’m very skeptical of the preparation of the team. They are behind the 8 ball and it showed
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Go Bills
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I'm nowhere near ready to say that the Bengals are going to beat our asses, BUT I will say they're likely to play much looser. They're fresh off the first pick of the draft so they don't feel the pressures we'll feel. Not only that, they had that game won AND they beat our ass to end the season last year. It's week 2, but it's gonna be intense AS F&@K.
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I'm nowhere near ready to say that the Bengals are going to beat our asses, BUT I will say they're likely to play much looser. They're fresh off the first pick of the draft so they don't feel the pressures we'll feel. Not only that, they had that game won AND they beat our ass to end the season last year. It's week 2, but it's gonna be intense AS F&@K.
I'm nowhere near ready to say that the Bengals are going to beat our asses, BUT I will say they're likely to play much looser. They're fresh off the first pick of the draft so they don't feel the pressures we'll feel. Not only that, they had that game won AND they beat our ass to end the season last year. It's week 2, but it's gonna be intense AS F&@K.
If the Browns lose this game... I want Haslam gone... They have no business losing this game... I understand Haslam doesn't suit up... But he hires these jackoffs!... The way him and his ass hat wife has run this franchise... They need to be run out of town...
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Double post. I'll say this, watching the Oline work on the Ravens front - Wyatt Teller should be getting some love. Kid did work early and often.
edit: I'm beginning to think if there's any hope for salvaging the season while slowly bringing along Baker, this team is going to have to do their best impression of the 2016 Dallas Cowboys. Run the ball, play action, control the clock, play keep away, and hope to god the defense finds a stop or two along the way.
Double post. I'll say this, watching the Oline work on the Ravens front - Wyatt Teller should be getting some love. Kid did work early and often.
edit: I'm beginning to think if there's any hope for salvaging the season while slowly bringing along Baker, this team is going to have to do their best impression of the 2016 Dallas Cowboys. Run the ball, play action, control the clock, play keep away, and hope to god the defense finds a stop or two along the way.
The Line was really solid all day.
i believe Wyatt Teller had the highest PPF score of all guards last week 91.2. He did a fair bit of owning his man And others throughout
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Hehehehe. I tend to cut Browns fans a ton of slack. We've been through so much crap that it's almost unbelievable. Honestly, what most of us simply want is to have fun on Sunday again. What's that mean in terms of our record? I have no idea, but I know fans aren't having fun and they're just tired of being laughed at.
I know we can't lose this game Thursday, that's obvious. And you know what? We SHOULDN'T lose! The Bengals were the worst team in the world last year and we play them week 2. There's NO WAY they should come close to beating us. Maybe we're looking at this the wrong way. Perhaps we just laid a clunker against the Ravens and we're much better than we showed. Watch us go out and beat the shit out of the Bengals tomorrow night.
Here's what I'm thinking. We're not likely to get down 30 points like last week. We'll be able to utilize the ground game the entire time and wear their butts out. I'm predicting a very close 1st half, and then I think we simply "out talent" them. Cream rises to the top, OBJ scores on a 50 yarder, Chubb and Hunt blow up, and Baker finally gets to play "game manager" while finding his footing.
Baker = 17-24 for 223 yards and 2 tds with 1 pick.
Final score = Browns 27, Bengals 16
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Double post. I'll say this, watching the Oline work on the Ravens front - Wyatt Teller should be getting some love. Kid did work early and often.
edit: I'm beginning to think if there's any hope for salvaging the season while slowly bringing along Baker, this team is going to have to do their best impression of the 2016 Dallas Cowboys. Run the ball, play action, control the clock, play keep away, and hope to god the defense finds a stop or two along the way.
The Line was really solid all day.
i believe Wyatt Teller had the highest PPF score of all guards last week 91.2. He did a fair bit of owning his man And others throughout
The Line was really solid all day.
i believe Wyatt Teller had the highest PPF score of all guards last week 91.2. He did a fair bit of owning his man And others throughout
Really? Well PFF and I saw the same things then this time.
For a spot many of us were concerned about, it's an early return that shows promise. If he keeps this up and Wills stays healthy while improving, then it's one of the best lines in the NFL.
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"We have the players, and we have the coaches,” Chubb said. “We just have to put it together. There is no excuse for us with who all is on our team to go out there and put up one touchdown. That is unacceptable. We know it, we accept that, and we are looking to get better.”
~Nick Chubb~
This is all I have heard from the team since it has been back... Why are we still waiting?
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
The Line was really solid all day.
i believe Wyatt Teller had the highest PPF score of all guards last week 91.2. He did a fair bit of owning his man And others throughout
Really? Well PFF and I saw the same things then this time.
For a spot many of us were concerned about, it's an early return that shows promise. If he keeps this up and Wills stays healthy while improving, then it's one of the best lines in the NFL.
Really? Well PFF and I saw the same things then this time.
For a spot many of us were concerned about, it's an early return that shows promise. If he keeps this up and Wills stays healthy while improving, then it's one of the best lines in the NFL.
And that seems to lead right back to your piece on Baker. Do I get a credit?? ?
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"We have the players, and we have the coaches,” Chubb said. “We just have to put it together. There is no excuse for us with who all is on our team to go out there and put up one touchdown. That is unacceptable. We know it, we accept that, and we are looking to get better.”
~Nick Chubb~
This is all I have heard from the team since it has been back... Why are we still waiting?
"We have the players, and we have the coaches,” Chubb said. “We just have to put it together. There is no excuse for us with who all is on our team to go out there and put up one touchdown. That is unacceptable. We know it, we accept that, and we are looking to get better.”
~Nick Chubb~
This is all I have heard from the team since it has been back... Why are we still waiting?
We haven’t been this good offensively in 20 years. Chubb is speaking facts. He is trying to speak it into existence.
Nick is also a Batman fan, and the night is darkest just before dawn, folks. -
"We have the players, and we have the coaches,” Chubb said. “We just have to put it together. There is no excuse for us with who all is on our team to go out there and put up one touchdown. That is unacceptable. We know it, we accept that, and we are looking to get better.”
~Nick Chubb~
This is all I have heard from the team since it has been back... Why are we still waiting?
"We have the players, and we have the coaches,” Chubb said. “We just have to put it together. There is no excuse for us with who all is on our team to go out there and put up one touchdown. That is unacceptable. We know it, we accept that, and we are looking to get better.”
~Nick Chubb~
This is all I have heard from the team since it has been back... Why are we still waiting?
I think we put up big numbers Thursday. Let’s hope the defense can get in the way a little
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Really? Well PFF and I saw the same things then this time.
For a spot many of us were concerned about, it's an early return that shows promise. If he keeps this up and Wills stays healthy while improving, then it's one of the best lines in the NFL.
And that seems to lead right back to your piece on Baker. Do I get a credit?? ?
And that seems to lead right back to your piece on Baker. Do I get a credit?? ?
You think I'm some cheap whore who just hands out rando upvotes?
Sir, I am at bare minimum, a high class escort. Thank you very much.
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And that seems to lead right back to your piece on Baker. Do I get a credit?? ?
You think I'm some cheap whore who just hands out rando upvotes?
Sir, I am at bare minimum, a high class escort. Thank you very much.
You think I'm some cheap whore who just hands out rando upvotes?
Sir, I am at bare minimum, a high class escort. Thank you very much.
So you want a Forbes magazine too just like Stormy huh??
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So you want a Forbes magazine too just like Stormy huh??
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pink font included... nope.. but i'd buy her magazine 
house, car, bar bills.. but never a pair of panties ever again.. ?
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"We have the players, and we have the coaches,” Chubb said. “We just have to put it together. There is no excuse for us with who all is on our team to go out there and put up one touchdown. That is unacceptable. We know it, we accept that, and we are looking to get better.”
~Nick Chubb~
This is all I have heard from the team since it has been back... Why are we still waiting?
I think we put up big numbers Thursday. Let’s hope the defense can get in the way a little
I think we put up big numbers Thursday. Let’s hope the defense can get in the way a little
The defense does scare the crap out of me. If Burrow gets on a roll and into a groove, we might have to score 30. Remember, Burrow is young and doesn't know any better. He's going to be a lot like Baker as a rookie. You know, the guy who set records. Burrow is just gonna throw the ball around, whereas Baker knows he's running out of time. To be honest, this game isn't really about Baker as much as the papers would have us believe. This game is about our OTHER #1 pick, Myles Garrett.
Garrett got seriously paid and that money comes with the expectation that he will alter games on a regular basis. Garrett needs to take over and do so on national television. He's got to exercise the previous demons and help his team get an effing victory.
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I think we put up big numbers Thursday. Let’s hope the defense can get in the way a little
The defense does scare the crap out of me. If Burrow gets on a roll and into a groove, we might have to score 30. Remember, Burrow is young and doesn't know any better. He's going to be a lot like Baker as a rookie. You know, the guy who set records. Burrow is just gonna throw the ball around, whereas Baker knows he's running out of time. To be honest, this game isn't really about Baker as much as the papers would have us believe. This game is about our OTHER #1 pick, Myles Garrett.
Garrett got seriously paid and that money comes with the expectation that he will alter games on a regular basis. Garrett needs to take over and do so on national television. He's got to exercise the previous demons and help his team get an effing victory.
The defense does scare the crap out of me. If Burrow gets on a roll and into a groove, we might have to score 30. Remember, Burrow is young and doesn't know any better. He's going to be a lot like Baker as a rookie. You know, the guy who set records. Burrow is just gonna throw the ball around, whereas Baker knows he's running out of time. To be honest, this game isn't really about Baker as much as the papers would have us believe. This game is about our OTHER #1 pick, Myles Garrett.
Garrett got seriously paid and that money comes with the expectation that he will alter games on a regular basis. Garrett needs to take over and do so on national television. He's got to exercise the previous demons and help his team get an effing victory.
I don't disagree with that. But one thing that bothered me about the Ravens game was that for some reason after a whole high school, college and pro career they switch him to the other side of the field. You have to suddenly try to do many things reverse from what you had been doing for years. Now why exactly was that done? It certainly looked like he was not anywhere near what we are used to seeing from him. Isn't anyone else capable of being the LDE? I didn't exactly see the people playing RDE do much of anything either. Well at least the half of the game I watched.
Plus the way they were using the DL was to try to keep containment lanes on the QB, kind of limiting the things they could do to pushing forward rather than trying to get around. If the LBs can't pick up the holes with a DE like Myles spinning, jumping, going around, etc., we are in really big, big trouble.
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Uhhhhh....guys. He threw this ball away btw. I...just...I...ummm...
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Yeah, was wondering how long before somebody saw that. His field vision to his left is... Just bad.
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