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  • @texasag1969 said:

    Before or after Dak went out for the season??

    They were 1 and 3 before the Giants game where he got hurt.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    They were 1 and 3 before the Giants game where he got hurt.

    WSS

    It's fake news. They are looking to get a mint for that first overall pick. They even have a fake picture of him after his fake surgery.?

  • @westside-steve said:

    They were 1 and 3 before the Giants game where he got hurt.

    WSS

    It's fake news. They are looking to get a mint for that first overall pick. They even have a fake picture of him after his fake surgery.?

    @texasag1969 said:

    It's fake news. They are looking to get a mint for that first overall pick. They even have a fake picture of him after his fake surgery.?

    So you're telling me Mike McCarthy is Hue Jackson?

    WSS

  • You Might not be "wrong" about McCArthy himself, it's still early.    But his decision to bring Mike Nolan (who is one of the worst defensive coaches in the NFL) with him is an unforgivable sin.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    It's fake news. They are looking to get a mint for that first overall pick. They even have a fake picture of him after his fake surgery.?

    So you're telling me Mike McCarthy is Hue Jackson?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    So you're telling me Mike McCarthy is Hue Jackson?

    WSS

    We will know the answer to that if he manages to get #1 overall two years in a row. Three if he wants to break the old record.?

  • So who's finding out more that the QB position is a fairly important one to their overall win / loss record......

    McCarthy or Belichick? 

  • So who's finding out more that the QB position is a fairly important one to their overall win / loss record......

    McCarthy or Belichick? 

    @d-bone said:

    So who's finding out more that the QB position is a fairly important one to their overall win / loss record......

    McCarthy or Belichick? 

    With Sony Michel and Edelman out, and you have a shadow of Cam Newton (never liked him, but what a sad sight he has become)??? 

    That offense is offensive to the eyes. Brady elevated for years an average WR room. It's hard for a team to change from a QB to another one when the rest of the group wasn't great to begin with. 

    The Dallas with that god awful D (good point, Tia) put EVERYTHING on Dak's shoulders, so the moment he's gone everything goes downhill. What is impressive is how fast McCarthy is losing the locker room. Garrett never lost it. 

  • So who's finding out more that the QB position is a fairly important one to their overall win / loss record......

    McCarthy or Belichick? 

    @d-bone said:

    So who's finding out more that the QB position is a fairly important one to their overall win / loss record......

    McCarthy or Belichick? 

    The Cowboys were not a very good overall team with DAK.

    I had said, all along, that it was Brady who carried BB, not the other way around.   BB can coach a defense, and make the playoffs,  but it was TB that made that team a champion.  I think they will end up at about 8-8.....a tribute to his coaching ability.  But they will not smell a title any more than the Browns did when he was here. 

  • @d-bone said:

    So who's finding out more that the QB position is a fairly important one to their overall win / loss record......

    McCarthy or Belichick? 

    The Cowboys were not a very good overall team with DAK.

    I had said, all along, that it was Brady who carried BB, not the other way around.   BB can coach a defense, and make the playoffs,  but it was TB that made that team a champion.  I think they will end up at about 8-8.....a tribute to his coaching ability.  But they will not smell a title any more than the Browns did when he was here. 

    @the-gipper said:

    The Cowboys were not a very good overall team with DAK.

    I had said, all along, that it was Brady who carried BB, not the other way around.   BB can coach a defense, and make the playoffs,  but it was TB that made that team a champion.  I think they will end up at about 8-8.....a tribute to his coaching ability.  But they will not smell a title any more than the Browns did when he was here. 

    I have to disagree. BB was building something here, and it got stifled by the move, Art, etc.

    Yes, some shady stuff like video taping other teams, deflated balls, mysterious calls. 

    But give the guy credit. He's simply been the best coach in the salary cap era, and it's not even close. Took out the Steelers several times in the playoffs, basically owned Peyton Manning, outsmarted the Greatest Show on Turf. Only likely candidates Eli Manning & Nick Foles got him it seems.

    It's hard for me to totally defend BB but you cannot ignore what he's done. 

  • @the-gipper said:

    The Cowboys were not a very good overall team with DAK.

    I had said, all along, that it was Brady who carried BB, not the other way around.   BB can coach a defense, and make the playoffs,  but it was TB that made that team a champion.  I think they will end up at about 8-8.....a tribute to his coaching ability.  But they will not smell a title any more than the Browns did when he was here. 

    I have to disagree. BB was building something here, and it got stifled by the move, Art, etc.

    Yes, some shady stuff like video taping other teams, deflated balls, mysterious calls. 

    But give the guy credit. He's simply been the best coach in the salary cap era, and it's not even close. Took out the Steelers several times in the playoffs, basically owned Peyton Manning, outsmarted the Greatest Show on Turf. Only likely candidates Eli Manning & Nick Foles got him it seems.

    It's hard for me to totally defend BB but you cannot ignore what he's done. 

    @bob806 said:

    I have to disagree. BB was building something here, and it got stifled by the move, Art, etc.

    You are not actually disagreeing with me, you are supporting my views IMO.   I said that BB is a coach that can take a team to the playoffs and that he coaches defenses well.  He took his sweet time about it here, but yes, he was building, and yes it got derailed by Modell.  Nevertheless...I said that he is ONLY the championship coach that he was because he got supremely lucky to draft the guy that turned out to be the potential GOAT in round 6.

    Does anyone really think that  BB could have won  6 titles with just, say, a good QB on his team?  With Drew Bledsoe (a good QB).  (no)

    Yes, some shady stuff like video taping other teams, deflated balls, mysterious calls. 

    But give the guy credit. He's simply been the best coach in the salary cap era, and it's not even close. Took out the Steelers several times in the playoffs, basically owned Peyton Manning, outsmarted the Greatest Show on Turf. Only likely candidates Eli Manning & Nick Foles got him it seems.

    It's hard for me to totally defend BB but you cannot ignore what he's done. 

    I don't ignore what he has done WITH Tom Brady playing for him.  Beyond that, honestly, I don't know that he would have been any better than Chuck Knox or Marty Schottenheimer.....really good playoff caliber  coaches, but apparently not Super Bowl metal guys. 

  • About Mike McCarthy?

    ?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    About Mike McCarthy?

    ?

    WSS

    lmao...

    For the record I wasn't keeping track of your bad calls... I barely have time to keep track of my own.

    ... but way to man up.

  • @westside-steve said:

    About Mike McCarthy?

    ?

    WSS

    lmao...

    For the record I wasn't keeping track of your bad calls... I barely have time to keep track of my own.

    ... but way to man up.

    @tour2ma said:

    lmao...

    For the record I wasn't keeping track of your bad calls... I barely have time to keep track of my own.

    ... but way to man up.

    I also admit I was torn between Rosen and Mayfield. My head said Rosen my heart said Mayfield.

    ???

    WSS

  • @tour2ma said:

    lmao...

    For the record I wasn't keeping track of your bad calls... I barely have time to keep track of my own.

    ... but way to man up.

    I also admit I was torn between Rosen and Mayfield. My head said Rosen my heart said Mayfield.

    ???

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    I also admit I was torn between Rosen and Mayfield. My head said Rosen my heart said Mayfield.

    ???

    WSS

    I thought Rosen would be better than he turned out to be. Allen has been a real surprise -- not the same QB that came out of Wyoming.

  • @tour2ma said:

    lmao...

    For the record I wasn't keeping track of your bad calls... I barely have time to keep track of my own.

    ... but way to man up.

    I also admit I was torn between Rosen and Mayfield. My head said Rosen my heart said Mayfield.

    ???

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    My head said Rosen

    So we'll always have Rosen... 😍

  • @westside-steve said:

    About Mike McCarthy?

    ?

    WSS

    Before or after Dak went out for the season??

    @texasag1969 said:

    Before or after Dak went out for the season??

    They were losing with Dak, just worse now. 

  • @tour2ma said:

    lmao...

    For the record I wasn't keeping track of your bad calls... I barely have time to keep track of my own.

    ... but way to man up.

    I also admit I was torn between Rosen and Mayfield. My head said Rosen my heart said Mayfield.

    ???

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    I also admit I was torn between Rosen and Mayfield. My head said Rosen my heart said Mayfield.

    ???

    WSS

    I was high on Rosen, thought he could be special. Don't think so now. 

  • About Mike McCarthy?

    ?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    About Mike McCarthy?

    ?

    WSS

    How is their current situation his fault? lol

  • @westside-steve said:

    About Mike McCarthy?

    ?

    WSS

    How is their current situation his fault? lol

    @vagitron said:

    How is their current situation his fault? lol

    So in hiring a new head coach the goal is not to improve the success of the team?

    WSS

  • @vagitron said:

    How is their current situation his fault? lol

    So in hiring a new head coach the goal is not to improve the success of the team?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    So in hiring a new head coach the goal is not to improve the success of the team?

    WSS

    The purpose of hiring a new coach is to renew fan interest to keep those season tickets selling like hotcakes, fill the owner's pocket and produce yet another shitty team until we wash and repeat for more ?. Works in Cleveland and Jerryworld has a more expensive snazzy venue. Overcharge for those beers & goodies. Make the suckers come back yearly.?

  • So what’s the play?? Sell the top 3 pick to the highest bidder or sell Dak for whatever they may get after the 2021 season and sit the new, cheap, healthy QB this upcoming season???

    Im selling Dak and if I were Cleveland, I’d offer a day 2 pick if Baker doesn’t show more improvement and Daks medicals check out.

  • So what’s the play?? Sell the top 3 pick to the highest bidder or sell Dak for whatever they may get after the 2021 season and sit the new, cheap, healthy QB this upcoming season???

    Im selling Dak and if I were Cleveland, I’d offer a day 2 pick if Baker doesn’t show more improvement and Daks medicals check out.

    @jdailey23 said:

    So what’s the play?? Sell the top 3 pick to the highest bidder or sell Dak for whatever they may get after the 2021 season and sit the new, cheap, healthy QB this upcoming season???

    Im selling Dak and if I were Cleveland, I’d offer a day 2 pick if Baker doesn’t show more improvement and Daks medicals check out.

    Just  no.  

    If there were truly an executive decision made to move away from Baker,  going that direction would be about the last thing I would consider.