Is it too early to admit I was wrong?
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So who's finding out more that the QB position is a fairly important one to their overall win / loss record......
McCarthy or Belichick?
So who's finding out more that the QB position is a fairly important one to their overall win / loss record......
McCarthy or Belichick?
With Sony Michel and Edelman out, and you have a shadow of Cam Newton (never liked him, but what a sad sight he has become)???
That offense is offensive to the eyes. Brady elevated for years an average WR room. It's hard for a team to change from a QB to another one when the rest of the group wasn't great to begin with.
The Dallas with that god awful D (good point, Tia) put EVERYTHING on Dak's shoulders, so the moment he's gone everything goes downhill. What is impressive is how fast McCarthy is losing the locker room. Garrett never lost it. -
So who's finding out more that the QB position is a fairly important one to their overall win / loss record......
McCarthy or Belichick?
So who's finding out more that the QB position is a fairly important one to their overall win / loss record......
McCarthy or Belichick?
The Cowboys were not a very good overall team with DAK.
I had said, all along, that it was Brady who carried BB, not the other way around. BB can coach a defense, and make the playoffs, but it was TB that made that team a champion. I think they will end up at about 8-8.....a tribute to his coaching ability. But they will not smell a title any more than the Browns did when he was here.
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So who's finding out more that the QB position is a fairly important one to their overall win / loss record......
McCarthy or Belichick?
The Cowboys were not a very good overall team with DAK.
I had said, all along, that it was Brady who carried BB, not the other way around. BB can coach a defense, and make the playoffs, but it was TB that made that team a champion. I think they will end up at about 8-8.....a tribute to his coaching ability. But they will not smell a title any more than the Browns did when he was here.
The Cowboys were not a very good overall team with DAK.
I had said, all along, that it was Brady who carried BB, not the other way around. BB can coach a defense, and make the playoffs, but it was TB that made that team a champion. I think they will end up at about 8-8.....a tribute to his coaching ability. But they will not smell a title any more than the Browns did when he was here.
I have to disagree. BB was building something here, and it got stifled by the move, Art, etc.
Yes, some shady stuff like video taping other teams, deflated balls, mysterious calls.
But give the guy credit. He's simply been the best coach in the salary cap era, and it's not even close. Took out the Steelers several times in the playoffs, basically owned Peyton Manning, outsmarted the Greatest Show on Turf. Only likely candidates Eli Manning & Nick Foles got him it seems.
It's hard for me to totally defend BB but you cannot ignore what he's done.
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The Cowboys were not a very good overall team with DAK.
I had said, all along, that it was Brady who carried BB, not the other way around. BB can coach a defense, and make the playoffs, but it was TB that made that team a champion. I think they will end up at about 8-8.....a tribute to his coaching ability. But they will not smell a title any more than the Browns did when he was here.
I have to disagree. BB was building something here, and it got stifled by the move, Art, etc.
Yes, some shady stuff like video taping other teams, deflated balls, mysterious calls.
But give the guy credit. He's simply been the best coach in the salary cap era, and it's not even close. Took out the Steelers several times in the playoffs, basically owned Peyton Manning, outsmarted the Greatest Show on Turf. Only likely candidates Eli Manning & Nick Foles got him it seems.
It's hard for me to totally defend BB but you cannot ignore what he's done.
I have to disagree. BB was building something here, and it got stifled by the move, Art, etc.
You are not actually disagreeing with me, you are supporting my views IMO. I said that BB is a coach that can take a team to the playoffs and that he coaches defenses well. He took his sweet time about it here, but yes, he was building, and yes it got derailed by Modell. Nevertheless...I said that he is ONLY the championship coach that he was because he got supremely lucky to draft the guy that turned out to be the potential GOAT in round 6.
Does anyone really think that BB could have won 6 titles with just, say, a good QB on his team? With Drew Bledsoe (a good QB). (no)
Yes, some shady stuff like video taping other teams, deflated balls, mysterious calls.
But give the guy credit. He's simply been the best coach in the salary cap era, and it's not even close. Took out the Steelers several times in the playoffs, basically owned Peyton Manning, outsmarted the Greatest Show on Turf. Only likely candidates Eli Manning & Nick Foles got him it seems.
It's hard for me to totally defend BB but you cannot ignore what he's done.
I don't ignore what he has done WITH Tom Brady playing for him. Beyond that, honestly, I don't know that he would have been any better than Chuck Knox or Marty Schottenheimer.....really good playoff caliber coaches, but apparently not Super Bowl metal guys.
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About Mike McCarthy?
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WSS
About Mike McCarthy?
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WSS
lmao...
For the record I wasn't keeping track of your bad calls... I barely have time to keep track of my own.
... but way to man up.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
About Mike McCarthy?
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WSS
lmao...
For the record I wasn't keeping track of your bad calls... I barely have time to keep track of my own.
... but way to man up.
lmao...
For the record I wasn't keeping track of your bad calls... I barely have time to keep track of my own.
... but way to man up.
I also admit I was torn between Rosen and Mayfield. My head said Rosen my heart said Mayfield.
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WSS
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I also admit I was torn between Rosen and Mayfield. My head said Rosen my heart said Mayfield.
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WSS
I thought Rosen would be better than he turned out to be. Allen has been a real surprise -- not the same QB that came out of Wyoming.
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My head said Rosen
So we'll always have Rosen...
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About Mike McCarthy?
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WSS
Before or after Dak went out for the season??
Before or after Dak went out for the season??
They were losing with Dak, just worse now.
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I also admit I was torn between Rosen and Mayfield. My head said Rosen my heart said Mayfield.
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WSS
I was high on Rosen, thought he could be special. Don't think so now.
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About Mike McCarthy?
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WSS
About Mike McCarthy?
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WSS
How is their current situation his fault? lol
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About Mike McCarthy?
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WSS
How is their current situation his fault? lol
How is their current situation his fault? lol
So in hiring a new head coach the goal is not to improve the success of the team?
WSS
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So in hiring a new head coach the goal is not to improve the success of the team?
WSS
The purpose of hiring a new coach is to renew fan interest to keep those season tickets selling like hotcakes, fill the owner's pocket and produce yet another shitty team until we wash and repeat for more ?. Works in Cleveland and Jerryworld has a more expensive snazzy venue. Overcharge for those beers & goodies. Make the suckers come back yearly.?
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So what’s the play?? Sell the top 3 pick to the highest bidder or sell Dak for whatever they may get after the 2021 season and sit the new, cheap, healthy QB this upcoming season???
Im selling Dak and if I were Cleveland, I’d offer a day 2 pick if Baker doesn’t show more improvement and Daks medicals check out.
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So what’s the play?? Sell the top 3 pick to the highest bidder or sell Dak for whatever they may get after the 2021 season and sit the new, cheap, healthy QB this upcoming season???
Im selling Dak and if I were Cleveland, I’d offer a day 2 pick if Baker doesn’t show more improvement and Daks medicals check out.
So what’s the play?? Sell the top 3 pick to the highest bidder or sell Dak for whatever they may get after the 2021 season and sit the new, cheap, healthy QB this upcoming season???
Im selling Dak and if I were Cleveland, I’d offer a day 2 pick if Baker doesn’t show more improvement and Daks medicals check out.
Just no.
If there were truly an executive decision made to move away from Baker, going that direction would be about the last thing I would consider.
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So what’s the play?? Sell the top 3 pick to the highest bidder or sell Dak for whatever they may get after the 2021 season and sit the new, cheap, healthy QB this upcoming season???
Im selling Dak and if I were Cleveland, I’d offer a day 2 pick if Baker doesn’t show more improvement and Daks medicals check out.
Im selling Dak and if I were Cleveland, I’d offer a day 2 pick if Baker doesn’t show more improvement and Daks medicals check out.
Dak will be back... and a 2nd ain't gonna get it done.
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So in hiring a new head coach the goal is not to improve the success of the team?
WSS
Not when the team is a damn mess. It takes time, your perspective on this is why the Browns are continually in the gutter. If you fire every damn coach that has a tough time in a season or two you stay in the revolving door. Continuity needs to exist and while McCarthy lost his job in GB he still had success in GB, the team has to be ready to win to actually win. A coach isn't going to immediately right those wrongs. Jerry jones is also a problem in dallas.
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So in hiring a new head coach the goal is not to improve the success of the team?
WSS
Not when the team is a damn mess. It takes time, your perspective on this is why the Browns are continually in the gutter. If you fire every damn coach that has a tough time in a season or two you stay in the revolving door. Continuity needs to exist and while McCarthy lost his job in GB he still had success in GB, the team has to be ready to win to actually win. A coach isn't going to immediately right those wrongs. Jerry jones is also a problem in dallas.
Jerry jones is also a problem in dallas.
What is happening to the Cowboys could not happen to a better person.
I mean seriously, is there any professional sports team in the U.S. that gets more undeserved attention than the Cowboys?
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Injuries are a big part of Dallas' "mess", but he wasn't winning early in the season when they were relatively healthy.
In McCarthy's case I think the biggest question is whether he has "it" anymore. A lot of the reason he was sent packing from GB was that his Offense was seen as stale. You don't have to HC for 30 years to have the game pass you by... and in Mike's case it just may have.
Plus do you get a "leader" vibe from him? I don't...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Injuries are a big part of Dallas' "mess", but he wasn't winning early in the season when they were relatively healthy.
In McCarthy's case I think the biggest question is whether he has "it" anymore. A lot of the reason he was sent packing from GB was that his Offense was seen as stale. You don't have to HC for 30 years to have the game pass you by... and in Mike's case it just may have.
Plus do you get a "leader" vibe from him? I don't...
Injuries are a big part of Dallas' "mess", but he wasn't winning early in the season when they were relatively healthy.
In McCarthy's case I think the biggest question is whether he has "it" anymore. A lot of the reason he was sent packing from GB was that his Offense was seen as stale. You don't have to HC for 30 years to have the game pass you by... and in Mike's case it just may have.
Plus do you get a "leader" vibe from him? I don't...
I don't follow McCarthy closely but you aren't wrong. I also 1000% agree on the leadership vibe. I sometimes can't tell if he's going through his thoughts or preparing to shit his pants. lol
What is happening to the Cowboys could not happen to a better person.
I mean seriously, is there any professional sports team in the U.S. that gets more undeserved attention than the Cowboys?
You can thank the "Americas team" mantra that was actually offered to the Steelers. The Chief nicely told them to stick it up their ass. lol
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