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  • Of course if Dak's watching the game he's likely to say, "Thanks for the interest, Bill, but no thanks. I can get beat up in Dallas."

  • @tour2ma said:

    Pretty much agree with your takes based upon on-field performance, but that's not the only consideration, i.e., $$$. For example:

    • Ryan inked an extension in 2019. Cut would be very expensive... in the area of $50mm... so can't see him going anywhere.
    • at about $10mm Darnold and Foles are relatively cheap axes, but can their teams even afford that much against their caps?
    • Trubs would add another $9mm to CHI's tab.

    I think Brady's decision will be set by how TB finishes. Anything less than a SB win and I see him back.

    Most interesting name is Dak because it's not just up to the team. Why would he stay in DAL?SF is a helluva lot closer to being title competitive than DAL.

    Marcus Spears was asked yesterday on NFL Live about where Dak might go and without hesitation he said SF. That seems like a great match to me and dumping Jimmy G costs less than $3mm. They may like Jimmy, but a healthy Dak is an obvious upgrade and it's not like Jimmy is or has been healthy.

    Finally if you are da 'Boyz, how do you pay Dak $35+mm via a 2nd tag to keep him for one more year?

    Then that begs the question:    Where do the Cowboys turn?   I don't think they are going to cast their fortunes with Andy Dalton. 

    @the-gipper said:

    Then that begs the question:    Where do the Cowboys turn?   I don't think they are going to cast their fortunes with Andy Dalton. 

    Dallas is going to  suck bad enough to be in the draft a QB derby. They're currently 4th (actually 3rd, because the Bengals aren't drafting a QB).

    PS- a brief perusal of  the Rams- Patriots game, I'd add  Cam Newton to the "done" list.

  • If the draft order stays as is? Let's just say the draft could start at pick #2... Does QB Gardner Minshew look like a NFL Starting QB or a Back-up QB?

    Buckeyes QB Justin Fields could be a Jags pick? or  LT Penei Sewell could be chosen to protect Minshew's future? (Jags LT Cam Robinson rookie deal expires after 2020 season)

    As of now...Jags sit on #2 pick...Cowboys #4 pick... Eagles #6 pick... Atlanta #8 pick.. Denver #10 pick...

    The Jags could receive a Sashi butt-load of rebuilding picks while passing on Justin Fields?.. Minshew  a) could be traded on his rookie deal until 2023? b,) Kept as Fields starting competition?  

    Should we, Fear the Stache  is done in Jacksonville? ?  

    Edit--The smallest untold story in Greenville,NC?   1.) The ECU Pirates hired a new Athletic director.. 2.)Walked in the door & fired former Pirate player and Than ECU Head Coach Ruffin McNeill.. 3.) To open the door for than QB Garner Minshew to transfer from ECU to Washington State.. $4.) Sooners HC Lincoln Riley was Ruffin's/Minshew's Offensive Coordinator.... ?‍♂️ ?  

  • @the-cysko-kid said:

    Carson wentz might be done in Philly 

    Yea, he was a major one I forgot. 

    @the-gipper said:

    Yea, he was a major one I forgot. 

    I think of all places pittsburgh might be a good landing spot for wentz. I don't think he's so far gone that he can't be salvaged and that would providev him a chance to regroup and study under an elite qb who has to be eyeing retirement soon but not quite yet. 

  • Well C. Wentz isn't done in philly, the EAGLES owe him way too much money, so they are stuck with him all next year weather he plays or stands on the sidelines. The Lions might be done with M. Stafford but who know's what will happen. And its basicly the same with all QB's mentioned. Are the big names worth keeping as starters?

  • @the-gipper said:

    Then that begs the question:    Where do the Cowboys turn?   I don't think they are going to cast their fortunes with Andy Dalton. 

    Dallas is going to  suck bad enough to be in the draft a QB derby. They're currently 4th (actually 3rd, because the Bengals aren't drafting a QB).

    PS- a brief perusal of  the Rams- Patriots game, I'd add  Cam Newton to the "done" list.

    @hoorta said:

    Dallas is going to  suck bad enough to be in the draft a QB derby. They're currently 4th (actually 3rd, because the Bengals aren't drafting a QB).

    PS- a brief perusal of  the Rams- Patriots game, I'd add  Cam Newton to the "done" list.

    Both Fair statements.

    As I see it though, there are really only 2 plums in this upcoming draft:   Lawrence and Fields......unless there is someone else there that is considered a Top  3-5 QB candidate.

    So, both Dallas AND New England may in the "draft a QB" mode. 

  • If the draft order stays as is? Let's just say the draft could start at pick #2... Does QB Gardner Minshew look like a NFL Starting QB or a Back-up QB?

    Buckeyes QB Justin Fields could be a Jags pick? or  LT Penei Sewell could be chosen to protect Minshew's future? (Jags LT Cam Robinson rookie deal expires after 2020 season)

    As of now...Jags sit on #2 pick...Cowboys #4 pick... Eagles #6 pick... Atlanta #8 pick.. Denver #10 pick...

    The Jags could receive a Sashi butt-load of rebuilding picks while passing on Justin Fields?.. Minshew  a) could be traded on his rookie deal until 2023? b,) Kept as Fields starting competition?  

    Should we, Fear the Stache  is done in Jacksonville? ?  

    Edit--The smallest untold story in Greenville,NC?   1.) The ECU Pirates hired a new Athletic director.. 2.)Walked in the door & fired former Pirate player and Than ECU Head Coach Ruffin McNeill.. 3.) To open the door for than QB Garner Minshew to transfer from ECU to Washington State.. $4.) Sooners HC Lincoln Riley was Ruffin's/Minshew's Offensive Coordinator.... ?‍♂️ ?  

    @gumby73 said:

    If the draft order stays as is? Let's just say the draft could start at pick #2... Does QB Gardner Minshew look like a NFL Starting QB or a Back-up QB?

    Buckeyes QB Justin Fields could be a Jags pick? or  LT Penei Sewell could be chosen to protect Minshew's future? (Jags LT Cam Robinson rookie deal expires after 2020 season)

    As of now...Jags sit on #2 pick...Cowboys #4 pick... Eagles #6 pick... Atlanta #8 pick.. Denver #10 pick...

    The Jags could receive a Sashi butt-load of rebuilding picks while passing on Justin Fields?.. Minshew  a) could be traded on his rookie deal until 2023? b,) Kept as Fields starting competition?  

    Should we, Fear the Stache  is done in Jacksonville? ?  

    Edit--The smallest untold story in Greenville,NC?   1.) The ECU Pirates hired a new Athletic director.. 2.)Walked in the door & fired former Pirate player and Than ECU Head Coach Ruffin McNeill.. 3.) To open the door for than QB Garner Minshew to transfer from ECU to Washington State.. $4.) Sooners HC Lincoln Riley was Ruffin's/Minshew's Offensive Coordinator.... ?‍♂️ ?  

    I think the Jags have been in the Tank for Trevor mode for 2 years.   Problem is that the Jets have just been a worse team. 

    So, no.  I think they go for Fields if  Trevor is not there.

    And actually, I think the Jets should be considering a trade of that #1 pick.....where they would get at minimum like  2 First rounders, 2 seconds and 2 3rds.   They have a pile of needs...and that trade could/should/would help them tremendously in rebuilding. 

  • The Jags should see what they could get for the #2 overall pick. 

    I'm sorry, I just don't see Justin Fields as a good NFL QB. 

  • The Jags should see what they could get for the #2 overall pick. 

    I'm sorry, I just don't see Justin Fields as a good NFL QB. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    The Jags should see what they could get for the #2 overall pick. 

    I'm sorry, I just don't see Justin Fields as a good NFL QB. 

    Why not?  Why would he not be as good as  Kyler Murray, Dak Prescott., DeShaun Watson, Tua....or any of these other shortish black QBs?

  • @dutch-oven said:

    The Jags should see what they could get for the #2 overall pick. 

    I'm sorry, I just don't see Justin Fields as a good NFL QB. 

    Why not?  Why would he not be as good as  Kyler Murray, Dak Prescott., DeShaun Watson, Tua....or any of these other shortish black QBs?

    @the-gipper said:

    Why not?  Why would he not be as good as  Kyler Murray, Dak Prescott., DeShaun Watson, Tua....or any of these other shortish black QBs?

    Um... wow. 

  • Don’t forget the Osweiler plus high pick strategy  to rid oneself of a bad contract.  And how could we- didn’t it net us Nick Chubb 
     

    Maybe it comes back into play this offseason  

  • @the-gipper said:

    Why not?  Why would he not be as good as  Kyler Murray, Dak Prescott., DeShaun Watson, Tua....or any of these other shortish black QBs?

    Um... wow. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Um... wow. 

    You are the one that came off disparaging Fields...so look in the mirror for your reasoning. 

    Considering he has better college numbers than any of the other guys I mentioned. 

  • Don’t forget the Osweiler plus high pick strategy  to rid oneself of a bad contract.  And how could we- didn’t it net us Nick Chubb 
     

    Maybe it comes back into play this offseason  

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Don’t forget the Osweiler plus high pick strategy  to rid oneself of a bad contract.  And how could we- didn’t it net us Nick Chubb

    Maybe it comes back into play this offseason  

    I want to say that the NFL closed this "cash for player" loophole as they did the straight cash for player(s) "trades" that were common in the mid-1900s.

    Aside: Man was it strange to type "mid-1900s"... Now I feel old and in need of a nap.

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    Don’t forget the Osweiler plus high pick strategy  to rid oneself of a bad contract.  And how could we- didn’t it net us Nick Chubb

    Maybe it comes back into play this offseason  

    I want to say that the NFL closed this "cash for player" loophole as they did the straight cash for player(s) "trades" that were common in the mid-1900s.

    Aside: Man was it strange to type "mid-1900s"... Now I feel old and in need of a nap.

    @tour2ma said:

    I want to say that the NFL closed this "cash for player" loophole as they did the straight cash for player(s) "trades" that were common in the mid-1900s.

    Aside: Man was it strange to type "mid-1900s"... Now I feel old and in need of a nap.

    That is akin to saying "that war back in the early 60's" just after WW I. Now you can really feel olzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz?

  • @tour2ma said:

    I want to say that the NFL closed this "cash for player" loophole as they did the straight cash for player(s) "trades" that were common in the mid-1900s.

    Aside: Man was it strange to type "mid-1900s"... Now I feel old and in need of a nap.

    That is akin to saying "that war back in the early 60's" just after WW I. Now you can really feel olzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz?

    @texasag1969 said:

    That is akin to saying "that war back in the early 60's" just after WW I. Now you can really feel olzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz?

    2010s, 2000s, 1990s, 1980s, 1970s.....1960s.

    Six decades ago.  

    And they still have not made music to match.   😉