Tell Me Again

[Axe]

This year I don't believe anyone was allowed to stray from their comfort zone.

So all things being equal except number of games played risking critical injuries.

The end result was once again, the same.

[MLD Woody]

@bob806 said:

Oops, turns out I was a tad wrong. Alabama played at Duke in 2010, at Penn St (#23) in 2011. 

I also remember in a bowl game between Georgia & Ohio St, Georgia wore illegal spikes (too long) yet their bowl win wasn't vacated by the NCAA. They only vacate wins if you sell your football pants*. 

*Lie to the NCAA

[MLD Woody]

The SEC is overrated. 

Florida, UGA, A&M fans chanting "S E C" because Bama keeps winning are pathetic. 

That's without going into all of the advantages at play for the SEC... fighting against satellite camps, bagmen, bowl games in their region, etc. 

I'll leave it at that 

[Bob806]

@axe said:

This year I don't believe anyone was allowed to stray from their comfort zone.

True. Schedules were adjusted this year.

NCAA schedules are usually made well ahead of time, like 10 years out for out-of-conference games. So how could that explain the last 40 or 50 years with Bama, Georgia, Florida-generally the strongest the SEC offers every season? Yep, the end result is the same ?

[TexasAg1969]

@mld-woody said:

The SEC is overrated. 

Florida, UGA, A&M fans chanting "S E C" because Bama keeps winning are pathetic. 

That's without going into all of the advantages at play for the SEC... fighting against satellite camps, bagmen, bowl games in their region, etc. 

I'll leave it at that 

Let me see. A&M with JFF beat the eventual National Champs in their house in 2012 and finished #5. Then lost to them without benefit of a deserved rematch for a record that just got them #4 in the Coaches poll today.

Now on to the rest who have even more claims to fame than the newest team. Since 2006 LSU and Florida have won it twice and Auburn has won it once.

OSU has won it once.

So I'd say that's a pretty strong argument against your overrated claim.

Now if you'd choose to go to bowl victory history of SEC vs. the world over the last 8 or 10 years...............................................................makes your argument even weaker.

[Bob806]

@mld-woody said:

*Lie to the NCAA

Well technically, Tressel lied to Gene Smith, tried to cover it up. Gene Smith reported it to the NCAA.  

Funny thing is SEC fans think because of the vacated Sugar Bowl win by tOSU, that they beat tOSU. 

[The Gipper]

@texasag1969 said:

Let me see. A&M with JFF beat the eventual National Champs in their house in 2012 and finished #5. Then lost to them without benefit of a deserved rematch for a record that just got them #4 in the Coaches poll today.

Why would anyone include A&M in any College National Championship discussion?  They have never won a title since like 1939...they have never played for a title...or even gotten close.   They finished #5 one year you say?  The best they have done in any of our lifetimes.

Now on to the rest who have even more claims to fame than the newest team. Since 2006 LSU and Florida have won it twice and Auburn has won it once.

OSU has won it once.

Why use 2006 as an arbitrary cutoff date?   In the 2000s  OSU has won as many national championships as any school except East Germany. 

So I'd say that's a pretty strong argument against your overrated claim.

Actually, no.  If the claim is that the rest of the SEC is glomming off the accomplishments of East Germany, I think he is pretty much on point. 

Now if you'd choose to go to bowl victory history of SEC vs. the world over the last 8 or 10 years...............................................................makes your argument even weaker.

Actually, I believe the SEC has a losing record in bowl games vs. the  ACC.  At least they did a couple of years ago when I checked it out. 

[DieHardBrownsFan]

[Axe]

[The Gipper]

The Top Dozen (well...at least there is one southern school on the Football list) 

Most collegiate team national championships all sports by football titles [edit]

Institution	Location	Founded	Type	Nickname	NCAA Team Titles[1]	Recognized Football Titles[13]	AIAW Team Titles[14][15]	Other Team Titles[a][16]	Total Team Titles[17]	Primary Conference
Princeton University	Princeton, New Jersey	1746	Private	Tigers	13

26 0 31^[25] 70 Ivy League Yale University New Haven, Connecticut 1701 Private Bulldogs 9 18 1 50^[23] 78 Ivy League University of Alabama Tuscaloosa, Alabama 1831 Public Crimson Tide 10 17 0 0 27 Southeastern Conference University of Notre Dame South Bend, Indiana 1842 Private Fighting Irish 19 13 0 0 32 Atlantic Coast Conference USC Los Angeles, California 1880 Private Trojans 115 11 6 5^[20] 129 Pac-12 Conference University of Michigan Ann Arbor, Michigan 1817 Public Wolverines 36 11 0 9^[27] 56 Big Ten Conference Ohio State University Columbus, Ohio 1870 Public Buckeyes 30 8 5 26^[26] 69 Big Ten Conference Harvard University Cambridge, Massachusetts 1636 Private Crimson 4 8 0 39^[32] 51 Ivy League University of Oklahoma Norman, Oklahoma 1890 Public Sooners 31 7 0 0 38 Big 12 Conference University of Minnesota Minneapolis and Saint Paul, Minnesota 1851 Public Golden Gophers 19 6 0 4^[50] 29 Big Ten Conference Penn Philadelphia 1740 Private Quakers 4 6 0 43^[31] 53 Ivy League University of Nebraska Lincoln, Nebraska 1869 Public Cornhuskers 20 5 1 6^[48] 32 Big Ten Conference

[TexasAg1969]

@diehardbrownsfan said:

Well, they all recruit players from all over the country.  

Here is the irony. A&M just signed late last night the best J.C. OT in the country, but he is a former Australian rugby player. 6'5" 320 lb Jordan Moko of Brisbane, Australia. Incredibly he is like the 4th or 5th best OL signed by A&M this year. A&M loses 4 of their 5 starters from the team, so that attracted a lot of really great OLs. On Wed. they found the best RB in the state to run behind them in LJ Johnson, a power back with a great stiffarm who also can get into the 4.2+ 40 yd dash area.. Reminds me a lot of former Gator and Cowboy Emmitt Smith. Poor teasips announce it for us.?

[DieHardBrownsFan]

I played Rugby in Okinawa.  Tough sport.

[The Gipper]

@texasag1969 said:

Here is the irony. A&M just signed late last night the best J.C. OT in the country, but he is a former Australian rugby player. 6'5" 320 lb Jordan Moko of Brisbane, Australia. Incredibly he is like the 4th or 5th best OL signed by A&M this year. A&M loses 4 of their 5 starters from the team, so that attracted a lot of really great OLs. On Wed. they found the best RB in the state to run behind them in LJ Johnson, a power back with a great stiffarm who also can get into the 4.2+ 40 yd dash area.. Reminds me a lot of former Gator and Cowboy Emmitt Smith. Poor teasips announce it for us.?

Best OC in the country because he was a rugby player?

You do know that  blocking is disallowed in rugby, don't you? 

[TexasAg1969]

@the-gipper said:

Best OC in the country because he was a rugby player?

You do know that  blocking is disallowed in rugby, don't you? 

JC as in Junior College. Played here.

[The Gipper]

@texasag1969 said:

JC as in Junior College. Played here.

Played what?  Rugby, or football?   And where is "here"? 

[TexasAg1969]

@the-gipper said:

Played what?  Rugby, or football?   And where is "here"? 

Here as in Utah. https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/tamu-football/texas-am-lands-commitment-from-australia-native-mammoth-juco-offensive-lineman/

From the article: "Texas A&M has landed a commitment from JUCO offensive lineman Jordan Moko, who is 6-foot-5 and 335 pounds, out of Snow College in Utah by way of his native Australia. The nation’s No. 6 overall JUCO prospect and No. 1 offensive tackle committed to the Aggies over LSU and Oregon, and a reported 23 offers overall."

[The Gipper]

@texasag1969 said:

Here as in Utah. https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/tamu-football/texas-am-lands-commitment-from-australia-native-mammoth-juco-offensive-lineman/

From the article: "Texas A&M has landed a commitment from JUCO offensive lineman Jordan Moko, who is 6-foot-5 and 335 pounds, out of Snow College in Utah by way of his native Australia. The nation’s No. 6 overall JUCO prospect and No. 1 offensive tackle committed to the Aggies over LSU and Oregon, and a reported 23 offers overall."

How much under the table money did they give him? 

[mjp28]

@the-gipper said:

How much under the table money did they give him? 

I wonder what the going rate is now for the top 5* P5 athletes now ?  (Unless the NCAA has that all cleaned up. )

Used to be nice money in the Cam Newton days.

[TexasAg1969]

@the-gipper said:

How much under the table money did they give him? 

Smart guy knows that 4 of the starting 5 are going pro and that they were the best OL in the SEC this year. The money comes later from the high pick if he continues to learn and play well.

[The Gipper]

@texasag1969 said:

Smart guy knows that 4 of the starting 5 are going pro and that they were the best OL in the SEC this year. The money comes later from the high pick if he continues to learn and play well.