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  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

    The SEC is overrated. 

    Florida, UGA, A&M fans chanting "S E C" because Bama keeps winning are pathetic. 

    That's without going into all of the advantages at play for the SEC... fighting against satellite camps, bagmen, bowl games in their region, etc. 

    I'll leave it at that 

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    @mld-woody said:

    The SEC is overrated. 

    Florida, UGA, A&M fans chanting "S E C" because Bama keeps winning are pathetic. 

    That's without going into all of the advantages at play for the SEC... fighting against satellite camps, bagmen, bowl games in their region, etc. 

    I'll leave it at that 

    Let me see. A&M with JFF beat the eventual National Champs in their house in 2012 and finished #5. Then lost to them without benefit of a deserved rematch for a record that just got them #4 in the Coaches poll today.

    Now on to the rest who have even more claims to fame than the newest team. Since 2006 LSU and Florida have won it twice and Auburn has won it once.

    OSU has won it once.

    So I'd say that's a pretty strong argument against your overrated claim.

    Now if you'd choose to go to bowl victory history of SEC vs. the world over the last 8 or 10 years...............................................................makes your argument even weaker.

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      @bob806 said:

      Oops, turns out I was a tad wrong. Alabama played at Duke in 2010, at Penn St (#23) in 2011. 

      I also remember in a bowl game between Georgia & Ohio St, Georgia wore illegal spikes (too long) yet their bowl win wasn't vacated by the NCAA. They only vacate wins if you sell your football pants*. 

      *Lie to the NCAA

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      @mld-woody said:

      *Lie to the NCAA

      Well technically, Tressel lied to Gene Smith, tried to cover it up. Gene Smith reported it to the NCAA.  

      Funny thing is SEC fans think because of the vacated Sugar Bowl win by tOSU, that they beat tOSU. 

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        @mld-woody said:

        The SEC is overrated. 

        Florida, UGA, A&M fans chanting "S E C" because Bama keeps winning are pathetic. 

        That's without going into all of the advantages at play for the SEC... fighting against satellite camps, bagmen, bowl games in their region, etc. 

        I'll leave it at that 

        Let me see. A&M with JFF beat the eventual National Champs in their house in 2012 and finished #5. Then lost to them without benefit of a deserved rematch for a record that just got them #4 in the Coaches poll today.

        Now on to the rest who have even more claims to fame than the newest team. Since 2006 LSU and Florida have won it twice and Auburn has won it once.

        OSU has won it once.

        So I'd say that's a pretty strong argument against your overrated claim.

        Now if you'd choose to go to bowl victory history of SEC vs. the world over the last 8 or 10 years...............................................................makes your argument even weaker.

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        @texasag1969 said:

        Let me see. A&M with JFF beat the eventual National Champs in their house in 2012 and finished #5. Then lost to them without benefit of a deserved rematch for a record that just got them #4 in the Coaches poll today.

        Why would anyone include A&M in any College National Championship discussion?  They have never won a title since like 1939...they have never played for a title...or even gotten close.   They finished #5 one year you say?  The best they have done in any of our lifetimes.

        Now on to the rest who have even more claims to fame than the newest team. Since 2006 LSU and Florida have won it twice and Auburn has won it once.

        OSU has won it once.

        Why use 2006 as an arbitrary cutoff date?   In the 2000s  OSU has won as many national championships as any school except East Germany. 

        So I'd say that's a pretty strong argument against your overrated claim.

        Actually, no.  If the claim is that the rest of the SEC is glomming off the accomplishments of East Germany, I think he is pretty much on point. 

        Now if you'd choose to go to bowl victory history of SEC vs. the world over the last 8 or 10 years...............................................................makes your argument even weaker.

        Actually, I believe the SEC has a losing record in bowl games vs. the  ACC.  At least they did a couple of years ago when I checked it out. 

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              The Top Dozen (well...at least there is one southern school on the Football list) 

              Most collegiate team national championships all sports by football titles [edit]

              Institution Location Founded Type Nickname NCAA Team Titles[1] Recognized Football Titles[13] AIAW Team Titles[14][15] Other Team Titles[a][16] Total Team Titles[17] Primary Conference
              Princeton University Princeton, New Jersey 1746 Private Tigers 13
              26 0 31[25] 70 Ivy League Yale University New Haven, Connecticut 1701 Private Bulldogs 9 18 1 50[23] 78 Ivy League University of Alabama Tuscaloosa, Alabama 1831 Public Crimson Tide 10 17 0 0 27 Southeastern Conference University of Notre Dame South Bend, Indiana 1842 Private Fighting Irish 19 13 0 0 32 Atlantic Coast Conference USC Los Angeles, California 1880 Private Trojans 115 11 6 5[20] 129 Pac-12 Conference University of Michigan Ann Arbor, Michigan 1817 Public Wolverines 36 11 0 9[27] 56 Big Ten Conference Ohio State University Columbus, Ohio 1870 Public Buckeyes 30 8 5 26[26] 69 Big Ten Conference Harvard University Cambridge, Massachusetts 1636 Private Crimson 4 8 0 39[32] 51 Ivy League University of Oklahoma Norman, Oklahoma 1890 Public Sooners 31 7 0 0 38 Big 12 Conference University of Minnesota Minneapolis and Saint Paul, Minnesota 1851 Public Golden Gophers 19 6 0 4[50] 29 Big Ten Conference Penn Philadelphia 1740 Private Quakers 4 6 0 43[31] 53 Ivy League University of Nebraska Lincoln, Nebraska 1869 Public Cornhuskers 20 5 1 6[48] 32 Big Ten Conference
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                @mjp28 said:

                The SEC hasn't been overrated at least the top for a while now......who is saying that ?

                The US population has .been relocating to the South and West at least since the 70s along with it the money and development that goes along with it like the growth of the colleges.

                The growth has come from the North and Northeast it's not hard to figure it out.  Just look at the number of D1 football schools in Florida alone it used to basically be just the UM, FSU and UF.

                Personally you can have the sweaty hot now becoming crowded South but that's just my opinion.  😉

                Well, they all recruit players from all over the country.  

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                @diehardbrownsfan said:

                Well, they all recruit players from all over the country.  

                Here is the irony. A&M just signed late last night the best J.C. OT in the country, but he is a former Australian rugby player. 6'5" 320 lb Jordan Moko of Brisbane, Australia. Incredibly he is like the 4th or 5th best OL signed by A&M this year. A&M loses 4 of their 5 starters from the team, so that attracted a lot of really great OLs. On Wed. they found the best RB in the state to run behind them in LJ Johnson, a power back with a great stiffarm who also can get into the 4.2+ 40 yd dash area.. Reminds me a lot of former Gator and Cowboy Emmitt Smith. Poor teasips announce it for us.?

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                  I played Rugby in Okinawa.  Tough sport.

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                    @diehardbrownsfan said:

                    Well, they all recruit players from all over the country.  

                    Here is the irony. A&M just signed late last night the best J.C. OT in the country, but he is a former Australian rugby player. 6'5" 320 lb Jordan Moko of Brisbane, Australia. Incredibly he is like the 4th or 5th best OL signed by A&M this year. A&M loses 4 of their 5 starters from the team, so that attracted a lot of really great OLs. On Wed. they found the best RB in the state to run behind them in LJ Johnson, a power back with a great stiffarm who also can get into the 4.2+ 40 yd dash area.. Reminds me a lot of former Gator and Cowboy Emmitt Smith. Poor teasips announce it for us.?

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                    @texasag1969 said:

                    Here is the irony. A&M just signed late last night the best J.C. OT in the country, but he is a former Australian rugby player. 6'5" 320 lb Jordan Moko of Brisbane, Australia. Incredibly he is like the 4th or 5th best OL signed by A&M this year. A&M loses 4 of their 5 starters from the team, so that attracted a lot of really great OLs. On Wed. they found the best RB in the state to run behind them in LJ Johnson, a power back with a great stiffarm who also can get into the 4.2+ 40 yd dash area.. Reminds me a lot of former Gator and Cowboy Emmitt Smith. Poor teasips announce it for us.?

                    Best OC in the country because he was a rugby player?

                    You do know that  blocking is disallowed in rugby, don't you? 

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                      @texasag1969 said:

                      Here is the irony. A&M just signed late last night the best J.C. OT in the country, but he is a former Australian rugby player. 6'5" 320 lb Jordan Moko of Brisbane, Australia. Incredibly he is like the 4th or 5th best OL signed by A&M this year. A&M loses 4 of their 5 starters from the team, so that attracted a lot of really great OLs. On Wed. they found the best RB in the state to run behind them in LJ Johnson, a power back with a great stiffarm who also can get into the 4.2+ 40 yd dash area.. Reminds me a lot of former Gator and Cowboy Emmitt Smith. Poor teasips announce it for us.?

                      Best OC in the country because he was a rugby player?

                      You do know that  blocking is disallowed in rugby, don't you? 

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                      @the-gipper said:

                      Best OC in the country because he was a rugby player?

                      You do know that  blocking is disallowed in rugby, don't you? 

                      JC as in Junior College. Played here.

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                        Best OC in the country because he was a rugby player?

                        You do know that  blocking is disallowed in rugby, don't you? 

                        JC as in Junior College. Played here.

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                        @texasag1969 said:

                        JC as in Junior College. Played here.

                        Played what?  Rugby, or football?   And where is "here"? 

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                          @texasag1969 said:

                          JC as in Junior College. Played here.

                          Played what?  Rugby, or football?   And where is "here"? 

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                          @the-gipper said:

                          Played what?  Rugby, or football?   And where is "here"? 

                          Here as in Utah. https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/tamu-football/texas-am-lands-commitment-from-australia-native-mammoth-juco-offensive-lineman/

                          From the article: "Texas A&M has landed a commitment from JUCO offensive lineman Jordan Moko, who is 6-foot-5 and 335 pounds, out of Snow College in Utah by way of his native Australia. The nation’s No. 6 overall JUCO prospect and No. 1 offensive tackle committed to the Aggies over LSU and Oregon, and a reported 23 offers overall."

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                            @the-gipper said:

                            Played what?  Rugby, or football?   And where is "here"? 

                            Here as in Utah. https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/tamu-football/texas-am-lands-commitment-from-australia-native-mammoth-juco-offensive-lineman/

                            From the article: "Texas A&M has landed a commitment from JUCO offensive lineman Jordan Moko, who is 6-foot-5 and 335 pounds, out of Snow College in Utah by way of his native Australia. The nation’s No. 6 overall JUCO prospect and No. 1 offensive tackle committed to the Aggies over LSU and Oregon, and a reported 23 offers overall."

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                            @texasag1969 said:

                            Here as in Utah. https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/tamu-football/texas-am-lands-commitment-from-australia-native-mammoth-juco-offensive-lineman/

                            From the article: "Texas A&M has landed a commitment from JUCO offensive lineman Jordan Moko, who is 6-foot-5 and 335 pounds, out of Snow College in Utah by way of his native Australia. The nation’s No. 6 overall JUCO prospect and No. 1 offensive tackle committed to the Aggies over LSU and Oregon, and a reported 23 offers overall."

                            How much under the table money did they give him? 

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                              @texasag1969 said:

                              Here as in Utah. https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/tamu-football/texas-am-lands-commitment-from-australia-native-mammoth-juco-offensive-lineman/

                              From the article: "Texas A&M has landed a commitment from JUCO offensive lineman Jordan Moko, who is 6-foot-5 and 335 pounds, out of Snow College in Utah by way of his native Australia. The nation’s No. 6 overall JUCO prospect and No. 1 offensive tackle committed to the Aggies over LSU and Oregon, and a reported 23 offers overall."

                              How much under the table money did they give him? 

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                              @the-gipper said:

                              How much under the table money did they give him? 

                              I wonder what the going rate is now for the top 5* P5 athletes now ?  (Unless the NCAA has that all cleaned up. 😉)

                              Used to be nice money in the Cam Newton days.

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                                @texasag1969 said:

                                Here as in Utah. https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/tamu-football/texas-am-lands-commitment-from-australia-native-mammoth-juco-offensive-lineman/

                                From the article: "Texas A&M has landed a commitment from JUCO offensive lineman Jordan Moko, who is 6-foot-5 and 335 pounds, out of Snow College in Utah by way of his native Australia. The nation’s No. 6 overall JUCO prospect and No. 1 offensive tackle committed to the Aggies over LSU and Oregon, and a reported 23 offers overall."

                                How much under the table money did they give him? 

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                                @the-gipper said:

                                How much under the table money did they give him? 

                                Smart guy knows that 4 of the starting 5 are going pro and that they were the best OL in the SEC this year. The money comes later from the high pick if he continues to learn and play well.

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                                  @the-gipper said:

                                  How much under the table money did they give him? 

                                  Smart guy knows that 4 of the starting 5 are going pro and that they were the best OL in the SEC this year. The money comes later from the high pick if he continues to learn and play well.

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                                  @texasag1969 said:

                                  Smart guy knows that 4 of the starting 5 are going pro and that they were the best OL in the SEC this year. The money comes later from the high pick if he continues to learn and play well.

                                  Image result for ostrich with head in sand gif

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                                    @texasag1969 said:

                                    Smart guy knows that 4 of the starting 5 are going pro and that they were the best OL in the SEC this year. The money comes later from the high pick if he continues to learn and play well.

                                    Image result for ostrich with head in sand gif

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                                    @the-gipper said:

                                    Image result for ostrich with head in sand gif

                                    Guess what he found down in there today. A 3 year LT grad transfer from Tennessee who wants to improve his draft status as an extra year transfer through the portal.

                                    https://texags.com/s/38683/aggies-land-tennessee-grad-transfer-offensive-lineman-jahmir-johnson

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                                      Image result for ostrich with head in sand gif

                                      Guess what he found down in there today. A 3 year LT grad transfer from Tennessee who wants to improve his draft status as an extra year transfer through the portal.

                                      https://texags.com/s/38683/aggies-land-tennessee-grad-transfer-offensive-lineman-jahmir-johnson

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                                      @texasag1969 said:

                                      Guess what he found down in there today. A 3 year LT grad transfer from Tennessee who wants to improve his draft status as an extra year transfer through the portal.

                                      https://texags.com/s/38683/aggies-land-tennessee-grad-transfer-offensive-lineman-jahmir-johnson

                                      Along with the pile of cash that A&M provided in a brown paper sack.  Which you apparently overlooked.

                                      (And...whatever they have found, it will not make A&M relevant in the national title picture any more than they have been for the last 80 years)

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                                        @texasag1969 said:

                                        Guess what he found down in there today. A 3 year LT grad transfer from Tennessee who wants to improve his draft status as an extra year transfer through the portal.

                                        https://texags.com/s/38683/aggies-land-tennessee-grad-transfer-offensive-lineman-jahmir-johnson

                                        Along with the pile of cash that A&M provided in a brown paper sack.  Which you apparently overlooked.

                                        (And...whatever they have found, it will not make A&M relevant in the national title picture any more than they have been for the last 80 years)

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                                        @the-gipper said:

                                        Along with the pile of cash that A&M provided in a brown paper sack.  Which you apparently overlooked.

                                        (And...whatever they have found, it will not make A&M relevant in the national title picture any more than they have been for the last 80 years)

                                        That is because we have never paid as much as OSU, ND and Bama.??

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                                          @the-gipper said:

                                          Along with the pile of cash that A&M provided in a brown paper sack.  Which you apparently overlooked.

                                          (And...whatever they have found, it will not make A&M relevant in the national title picture any more than they have been for the last 80 years)

                                          That is because we have never paid as much as OSU, ND and Bama.??

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                                          @texasag1969 said:

                                          That is because we have never paid as much as OSU, ND and Bama.??

                                          Bama certainly.....Not the others who don't pay. 

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