Here is where we are now.
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Best defensive player on the board. Do not care what position, because upgrades are needed across the board.
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Best defensive player on the board. Do not care what position, because upgrades are needed across the board.
Best defensive player on the board. Do not care what position, because upgrades are needed across the board.
Totally agree, draft should be all defense....outside maybe a backup o lineman.
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Best defensive player on the board. Do not care what position, because upgrades are needed across the board.
Best defensive player on the board. Do not care what position, because upgrades are needed across the board.
Not at DI -- Billings/Richardson/Ogun/Elliot is an upgrade over this season and should be at minimum average, could be a strength. Billings sat out the season
Even Edge could be a lot worse -- resign Vernon and gustin/clayborn at 3/4 aren't future stars but will be decent.
Focus on back 7, plenty of those to be had.
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Best defensive player on the board. Do not care what position, because upgrades are needed across the board.
Not at DI -- Billings/Richardson/Ogun/Elliot is an upgrade over this season and should be at minimum average, could be a strength. Billings sat out the season
Even Edge could be a lot worse -- resign Vernon and gustin/clayborn at 3/4 aren't future stars but will be decent.
Focus on back 7, plenty of those to be had.
Not at DI -- Billings/Richardson/Ogun/Elliot is an upgrade over this season and should be at minimum average, could be a strength. Billings sat out the season
Even Edge could be a lot worse -- resign Vernon and gustin/clayborn at 3/4 aren't future stars but will be decent.
Focus on back 7, plenty of those to be had.
Nope, best defensive player on the board.
Vernon is 30 and will be coming off a major injury, and he was always an injury waiting to happen before that. Richardson is even older, and Ogunjobi is a free agent.
DLine is unlike any other position group, the more starting-caliber players, the better. They move in and out all the time.
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Not at DI -- Billings/Richardson/Ogun/Elliot is an upgrade over this season and should be at minimum average, could be a strength. Billings sat out the season
Even Edge could be a lot worse -- resign Vernon and gustin/clayborn at 3/4 aren't future stars but will be decent.
Focus on back 7, plenty of those to be had.
Nope, best defensive player on the board.
Vernon is 30 and will be coming off a major injury, and he was always an injury waiting to happen before that. Richardson is even older, and Ogunjobi is a free agent.
DLine is unlike any other position group, the more starting-caliber players, the better. They move in and out all the time.
Nope, best defensive player on the board.
Vernon is 30 and will be coming off a major injury, and he was always an injury waiting to happen before that. Richardson is even older, and Ogunjobi is a free agent.
DLine is unlike any other position group, the more starting-caliber players, the better. They move in and out all the time.
Barmore of Alabama is listed above at #27. He would have to be considered.
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And if say Devonta Smith is there?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
And if say Devonta Smith is there?
Pass.
That little shit is going to get Percy Harvin'd out the NFL.
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Nope, best defensive player on the board.
Vernon is 30 and will be coming off a major injury, and he was always an injury waiting to happen before that. Richardson is even older, and Ogunjobi is a free agent.
DLine is unlike any other position group, the more starting-caliber players, the better. They move in and out all the time.
Barmore of Alabama is listed above at #27. He would have to be considered.
Barmore of Alabama is listed above at #27. He would have to be considered.
If he fits what the Browns are trying to do on defense, yes.
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My point is you make a board...
clusters...
need as a tie-breaker...
Yada yada yada...
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Barmore of Alabama is listed above at #27. He would have to be considered.
If he fits what the Browns are trying to do on defense, yes.
If he fits what the Browns are trying to do on defense, yes.
Well....what they are trying to do on defense is to stop the other team from running and putting pressure on the QB.
Does he fit that at all?
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If he fits what the Browns are trying to do on defense, yes.
Well....what they are trying to do on defense is to stop the other team from running and putting pressure on the QB.
Does he fit that at all?
Well....what they are trying to do on defense is to stop the other team from running and putting pressure on the QB.
Does he fit that at all?
I understand you have a really elementary grasp on football.
So instead of being a smart ass, shut your fucking mouth, actually read things from people smarter than you, and maybe you'll actually know what is going on around here.
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My point is you make a board...
clusters...
need as a tie-breaker...
Yada yada yada...
I am no talent analyst, I just play one on TV......but great percentages of the mock drafts....and databases have him going in the Top 5. So, if they are right, I don't think he is going to be in our cluster at 26. (Its why I only started at the 20 ranked prospects above.
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Well....what they are trying to do on defense is to stop the other team from running and putting pressure on the QB.
Does he fit that at all?
I understand you have a really elementary grasp on football.
So instead of being a smart ass, shut your fucking mouth, actually read things from people smarter than you, and maybe you'll actually know what is going on around here.
I understand you have a really elementary grasp on football.
So instead of being a smart ass, shut your fucking mouth, actually read things from people smarter than you, and maybe you'll actually know what is going on around here.
When I find someone who is smarter at football than me.....I will listen.
You can have a seat. You would not be in the "cluster".
I mean, you seem to be acting like you would not have chosen LeBron James if for some reason you thought that he would not "fit" the team's plans.
If a player is a beast, he is a beast. Maybe this guy is a beast, and maybe he ain't.....but if he is....if he can beast, he can beast anywhere.
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I understand you have a really elementary grasp on football.
So instead of being a smart ass, shut your fucking mouth, actually read things from people smarter than you, and maybe you'll actually know what is going on around here.
When I find someone who is smarter at football than me.....I will listen.
You can have a seat. You would not be in the "cluster".
I mean, you seem to be acting like you would not have chosen LeBron James if for some reason you thought that he would not "fit" the team's plans.
If a player is a beast, he is a beast. Maybe this guy is a beast, and maybe he ain't.....but if he is....if he can beast, he can beast anywhere.
When I find someone who is smarter at football than me.....I will listen.
You can have a seat. You would not be in the "cluster".
I mean, you seem to be acting like you would not have chosen LeBron James if for some reason you thought that he would not "fit" the team's plans.
If a player is a beast, he is a beast. Maybe this guy is a beast, and maybe he ain't.....but if he is....if he can beast, he can beast anywhere.
I seriously might put my first person ever on ignore.
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When I find someone who is smarter at football than me.....I will listen.
You can have a seat. You would not be in the "cluster".
I mean, you seem to be acting like you would not have chosen LeBron James if for some reason you thought that he would not "fit" the team's plans.
If a player is a beast, he is a beast. Maybe this guy is a beast, and maybe he ain't.....but if he is....if he can beast, he can beast anywhere.
I seriously might put my first person ever on ignore.
I seriously might put my first person ever on ignore.
Well...you are now already on my "ignorant" list.
Think about it......you have this Barmore guy. He is 6'5" 315 lbs. Which makes him a Man Monster. But not just that. He was the defensive MVP of the National Championship game. He was 1st team ALL SEC. He made some All American teams. Yet you say that you would cross him off your list for consideration even because he may not "fit" some preconceived plan? Do you think he is a robot, only programmed to do certain things. He is a scentient human being. He is only like 20 years old. I think he may be adaptable to various system some DCs may want to run if he has all that raw natural talent. Now, if he does not have it...that is another thing. But how can one legitimately just cross him off because of some claim of "lack of fit"?
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I seriously might put my first person ever on ignore.
Well...you are now already on my "ignorant" list.
Think about it......you have this Barmore guy. He is 6'5" 315 lbs. Which makes him a Man Monster. But not just that. He was the defensive MVP of the National Championship game. He was 1st team ALL SEC. He made some All American teams. Yet you say that you would cross him off your list for consideration even because he may not "fit" some preconceived plan? Do you think he is a robot, only programmed to do certain things. He is a scentient human being. He is only like 20 years old. I think he may be adaptable to various system some DCs may want to run if he has all that raw natural talent. Now, if he does not have it...that is another thing. But how can one legitimately just cross him off because of some claim of "lack of fit"?
Well...you are now already on my "ignorant" list.
Think about it......you have this Barmore guy. He is 6'5" 315 lbs. Which makes him a Man Monster. But not just that. He was the defensive MVP of the National Championship game. He was 1st team ALL SEC. He made some All American teams. Yet you say that you would cross him off your list for consideration even because he may not "fit" some preconceived plan? Do you think he is a robot, only programmed to do certain things. He is a scentient human being. He is only like 20 years old. I think he may be adaptable to various system some DCs may want to run if he has all that raw natural talent. Now, if he does not have it...that is another thing. But how can one legitimately just cross him off because of some claim of "lack of fit"?
Congratulations, you're my first ignore.
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Well...you are now already on my "ignorant" list.
Think about it......you have this Barmore guy. He is 6'5" 315 lbs. Which makes him a Man Monster. But not just that. He was the defensive MVP of the National Championship game. He was 1st team ALL SEC. He made some All American teams. Yet you say that you would cross him off your list for consideration even because he may not "fit" some preconceived plan? Do you think he is a robot, only programmed to do certain things. He is a scentient human being. He is only like 20 years old. I think he may be adaptable to various system some DCs may want to run if he has all that raw natural talent. Now, if he does not have it...that is another thing. But how can one legitimately just cross him off because of some claim of "lack of fit"?
Congratulations, you're my first ignore.
Congratulations, you're my first ignore.
Yep. See there.....a logical and reasonable football conversation you cannot handle apparently. You were not even capable of explaining why you think that a guy like that would not fucking "fit".
Is there anyone with half a brain out there that agrees that a guy like this Barmore could be totally crossed off the Browns consideration list because he does not "fit".....and explain why?
I mean....maybe he played in a 4-3 in college and a pro team runs a 3-4. Maybe they are looking for a 3-4 nose guard. I don't see why a guy like this could not play a 3-4 NT but not a 4-3 DT.....or vice versa. 6'5" 315. All American. Won't even consider him? Since when does talent not count for anything? (assuming he has that in spades)
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