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Higgins Did Not Lose This Game!

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  • He played great, and fumbled the ball. I can't take anything from him because in the same position, human nature tells you "go for it". 

    There were many plays that lost us the game and I hope we can grow out of this. 

    @nero said:

    He played great, and fumbled the ball. I can't take anything from him because in the same position, human nature tells you "go for it". 

    There were many plays that lost us the game and I hope we can grow out of this. 

    Regarding Higgins... The next generation of Browns fans got to experience "The Fumble" Part II.  🙁  We're Browns fans, if anything can go wrong- it will- at the worst possible time. 

    Now MHO, and others watching the game agree. The fumble out of bounds in the end zone is a shitty rule. I've yet to watch- but if Cowher said it, I 100% agree. That unfairly penalizes the team that fumbled the ball in that manner. Either the ball goes back to where the fumble occurred- or where the play originated with loss of down. It's not that hard. 

  • @nero said:

    He played great, and fumbled the ball. I can't take anything from him because in the same position, human nature tells you "go for it". 

    There were many plays that lost us the game and I hope we can grow out of this. 

    Regarding Higgins... The next generation of Browns fans got to experience "The Fumble" Part II.  🙁  We're Browns fans, if anything can go wrong- it will- at the worst possible time. 

    Now MHO, and others watching the game agree. The fumble out of bounds in the end zone is a shitty rule. I've yet to watch- but if Cowher said it, I 100% agree. That unfairly penalizes the team that fumbled the ball in that manner. Either the ball goes back to where the fumble occurred- or where the play originated with loss of down. It's not that hard. 

    @hoorta said:

    Regarding Higgins... The next generation of Browns fans got to experience "The Fumble" Part II.  🙁  We're Browns fans, if anything can go wrong- it will- at the worst possible time. 

    Now MHO, and others watching the game agree. The fumble out of bounds in the end zone is a shitty rule. I've yet to watch- but if Cowher said it, I 100% agree. That unfairly penalizes the team that fumbled the ball in that manner. Either the ball goes back to where the fumble occurred- or where the play originated with loss of down. It's not that hard. 

    Totally agreed. Even if they want to keep it, then make it a touchback if it is ONLY on 4th down. 

  • @nero said:

    Vag is not a troll and it is even more enjoyable talking to him than some "Browns' fans" around here. 

    I'd take Vag over Gipper any day of the week, and about 34 times on Sundays. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I'd take Vag over Gipper any day of the week, and about 34 times on Sundays. 

    Why?  Because you and he can "fit"  into the same shoe size? 

  • Who is blaming him?  I liked the effort.  Our defense lost the game.

  • Vag is not a troll and it is even more enjoyable talking to him than some "Browns' fans" around here. 

    @nero said:

    Vag is not a troll and it is even more enjoyable talking to him than some "Browns' fans" around here. 

    You have to understand.....Any fan of any other team that shows up here is a troll. 

  • @nero said:

    He played great, and fumbled the ball. I can't take anything from him because in the same position, human nature tells you "go for it". 

    There were many plays that lost us the game and I hope we can grow out of this. 

    Regarding Higgins... The next generation of Browns fans got to experience "The Fumble" Part II.  🙁  We're Browns fans, if anything can go wrong- it will- at the worst possible time. 

    Now MHO, and others watching the game agree. The fumble out of bounds in the end zone is a shitty rule. I've yet to watch- but if Cowher said it, I 100% agree. That unfairly penalizes the team that fumbled the ball in that manner. Either the ball goes back to where the fumble occurred- or where the play originated with loss of down. It's not that hard. 

    @hoorta said:

    Regarding Higgins... The next generation of Browns fans got to experience "The Fumble" Part II.  🙁  We're Browns fans, if anything can go wrong- it will- at the worst possible time. 

    The fumble was the result of a blown missed call on a blatant head-to-head hit.

    The only thing that went wrong is that the refs completely missed why he fumbled. 

  • @hoorta said:

    Regarding Higgins... The next generation of Browns fans got to experience "The Fumble" Part II.  🙁  We're Browns fans, if anything can go wrong- it will- at the worst possible time. 

    The fumble was the result of a blown missed call on a blatant head-to-head hit.

    The only thing that went wrong is that the refs completely missed why he fumbled. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    The fumble was the result of a blown missed call on a blatant head-to-head hit.

    The only thing that went wrong is that the refs completely missed why he fumbled. 

    Now let's not get on the refs TOO hard.. OTOH, they did totally miss that Mahomes pass that clearly was an incompletion earlier- that was a play Stef certainly should have challenged. Oh, and Honey Badger not only kicking Landry in the head, but standing over him and taunting. No calls on either.  🙁  

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I'd take Vag over Gipper any day of the week, and about 34 times on Sundays. 

    Why?  Because you and he can "fit"  into the same shoe size? 

    @the-gipper said:

    Why?  Because you and he can "fit"  into the same shoe size? 

    I'm just quoting this to bitch on Dutch's and Tour's ignore list. 

    @the-gipper said:

    You have to understand.....Any fan of any other team that shows up here is a troll. 

    No. 

    Anyone who doesn't bring good arguments and doesn't read what is being said/answered to simply state some proudful thoughts to just make people angry and feast on their alleged superiority is a troll. 

    I'm up for other team's fans joining in to share their viewpoints. 

    I'm here to get information and have some interesting discussions about a team and sport I love. I'm not here to jerk off with a bunch of thoughtless fans thinking alike or to stand people just wanting to spit out whatever comes from their ass so they can get people angry or/and tired so they feel good about themselves. 

  • @the-gipper said:

    Why?  Because you and he can "fit"  into the same shoe size? 

    I'm just quoting this to bitch on Dutch's and Tour's ignore list. 

    @the-gipper said:

    You have to understand.....Any fan of any other team that shows up here is a troll. 

    No. 

    Anyone who doesn't bring good arguments and doesn't read what is being said/answered to simply state some proudful thoughts to just make people angry and feast on their alleged superiority is a troll. 

    I'm up for other team's fans joining in to share their viewpoints. 

    I'm here to get information and have some interesting discussions about a team and sport I love. I'm not here to jerk off with a bunch of thoughtless fans thinking alike or to stand people just wanting to spit out whatever comes from their ass so they can get people angry or/and tired so they feel good about themselves. 

    @nero said:

    I'm just quoting this to bitch on Dutch and Tour's ignore list. 

    No. 

    Anyone who doesn't bring good arguments and doesn't read what is being said/answered to simply state some proudful thoughts to just make people angry and feast on their alleged superiority is a troll. 

    Doesn't read?  Did you read the part where I said that we have a different definition?  Another vagary of the English language...where a word can have disparate meanings. 

    I'm up for other team's fans joining in to share their viewpoints. 

    I am not opposed to that at all.....I have engaged with Vag more than anyone.....but I also call him on all of his delusional ideas. 

    I'm here to get information and have some interesting discussions about a team and sport I love. I'm not here to jerk off to a bunch of thoughtless fans thinking alike or to stand people just wanting to spit out whatever comes from their ass so they can get people angry or/and tired and feel good about themselves. 

    That can come off a bit wishy washy.  Don't they have any team fan rivalries over there where they really get after one another? 

  • As to who is saying Higgins, pretty much everyone on TV.. Real Browns fans understand he was trying to win the game..

    Stephanski called a ballsy game. Twice 4th and short on our side of the field and going for it.. Balls.....  He missed an easy red flag on that "reception".. Not sure how much that played into anything.. But a very obvious mistake. Then losing the Timeout on an obvious reception not 2 plays later.. Another mistake... 

    The Baker INT was a horrible horrible pass. It resulted in ZERO points. But then again it negated us getting points on that possession.

    The Defense was always going to be our downfall and it showed today... All we needed was ONE stop on that last possession and they just couldn't do it... Next year  we will address our defense.... 

    It was a great year and even with this bitter loss, it shows how far we've come in a very short amount of time.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Why?  Because you and he can "fit"  into the same shoe size? 

    I'm just quoting this to bitch on Dutch's and Tour's ignore list. 

    @the-gipper said:

    You have to understand.....Any fan of any other team that shows up here is a troll. 

    No. 

    Anyone who doesn't bring good arguments and doesn't read what is being said/answered to simply state some proudful thoughts to just make people angry and feast on their alleged superiority is a troll. 

    I'm up for other team's fans joining in to share their viewpoints. 

    I'm here to get information and have some interesting discussions about a team and sport I love. I'm not here to jerk off with a bunch of thoughtless fans thinking alike or to stand people just wanting to spit out whatever comes from their ass so they can get people angry or/and tired so they feel good about themselves. 

    @nero said:

    I'm just quoting this to bitch on Dutch's and Tour's ignore list. 

    lmao...

    You know we can fix that!

    Miss you as we might, you will be exacting too great of a price if you persist in this kind of shenanigans*...

    _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    *Look that word up you lil shit... 😉

  • @nero said:

    I'm just quoting this to bitch on Dutch's and Tour's ignore list. 

    lmao...

    You know we can fix that!

    Miss you as we might, you will be exacting too great of a price if you persist in this kind of shenanigans*...

    _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    *Look that word up you lil shit... 😉

    @tour2ma said:

    lmao...

    You know we can fix that!

    Miss you as we might, you will be exacting too great of a price if you persist in this kind of shenanigans*...

    _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    *Look that word up you lil shit... 😉

    I know the word shenanigans. It's phonetically interesting. 

  • @tour2ma said:

    That makes two of us... I saw neither a concussive blow nor rapid head movement to explain the kid literally being out on his feet as he got up.

    Plus as you said  bit of a necktie tackle, but nothing viscious. I actually wonder if Pat had a mini-stroke due to a blood clot being shaken loose. I did not hear of him going to a hospital, but he should and spend a nite or two.

    Go watch it, his head goes straight down into the ground.  Hard. 

    @vagitron said:

    Go watch it, his head goes straight down into the ground.  Hard. 

    OK... I did and watched the Dr. Whats-his-face video ATOM posted... and I can see where the brow of his helmet could  have hit the ground, but in the low angle shot the impact is just out of frame.

    Also I watched his neck angle and there is no change all the way thru the play. Also no turf in the top of the facebar... only a couple blades of grass flying...

    I accept that there is no other explanation... not even a stroke 😉 ... but still don't see the impact.

  • @vagitron said:

    Go watch it, his head goes straight down into the ground.  Hard. 

    OK... I did and watched the Dr. Whats-his-face video ATOM posted... and I can see where the brow of his helmet could  have hit the ground, but in the low angle shot the impact is just out of frame.

    Also I watched his neck angle and there is no change all the way thru the play. Also no turf in the top of the facebar... only a couple blades of grass flying...

    I accept that there is no other explanation... not even a stroke 😉 ... but still don't see the impact.

    @tour2ma said:

    OK... I did and watched the Dr. Whats-his-face video ATOM posted... and I can see where the brow of his helmet could  have hit the ground, but in the low angle shot the impact is just out of frame.

    Also I watched his neck angle and there is no change all the way thru the play. Also no turf in the top of the facebar... only a couple blades of grass flying...

    I accept that there is no other explanation... not even a stroke 😉 ... but still don't see the impact.

    Slow mo and full speed look different.  All i know is something happened because it looked like he took an uppercut from mike tyson. 

  • @the-gipper said:

    Why?  Because you and he can "fit"  into the same shoe size? 

    I'm just quoting this to bitch on Dutch's and Tour's ignore list. 

    @the-gipper said:

    You have to understand.....Any fan of any other team that shows up here is a troll. 

    No. 

    Anyone who doesn't bring good arguments and doesn't read what is being said/answered to simply state some proudful thoughts to just make people angry and feast on their alleged superiority is a troll. 

    I'm up for other team's fans joining in to share their viewpoints. 

    I'm here to get information and have some interesting discussions about a team and sport I love. I'm not here to jerk off with a bunch of thoughtless fans thinking alike or to stand people just wanting to spit out whatever comes from their ass so they can get people angry or/and tired so they feel good about themselves. 

    @nero said:

    I'm just quoting this to bitch on Dutch's and Tour's ignore list. 

    No. 

    Anyone who doesn't bring good arguments and doesn't read what is being said/answered to simply state some proudful thoughts to just make people angry and feast on their alleged superiority is a troll. 

    I'm up for other team's fans joining in to share their viewpoints. 

    I'm here to get information and have some interesting discussions about a team and sport I love. I'm not here to jerk off with a bunch of thoughtless fans thinking alike or to stand people just wanting to spit out whatever comes from their ass so they can get people angry or/and tired so they feel good about themselves. 

    I don't give one single shit about how gipper feels about me.  He wants me to be a troll so he can run around old man flexing in the mirror. I gave him a purpose and now that he's on ignore he feels lost. I'm here for info and I like talking with some of you.  Gipper can't handle that I guess. ?

  • What I want to know is if Vag has adopted his given name on other forums he's on? Vagitron surely sounds like someone i'd want to hang out with more than rorbotron.

  • @tour2ma said:

    Yet you lived!

    I never learned how to properly tie a noose.

    I'm not a Republican. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I never learned how to properly tie a noose.

    I'm not a Republican. 

    I take it you failed History class

  • @the-cysko-kid said:

    The vag is correct. Now get the hell outta here ya yinzer. 

    ?

    If I were the troll some make me out to be I SHOULD be in here talking shit.  It's just not my style and with gipper on ignore I've found my brownsboard zen.  I might block the other mouth breathers too. 

    @vagitron said:

    ?

    If I were the troll some make me out to be I SHOULD be in here talking shit.  It's just not my style and with gipper on ignore I've found my brownsboard zen.  I might block the other mouth breathers too. 

    I have never had a problem with you.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I never learned how to properly tie a noose.

    I'm not a Republican. 

    I take it you failed History class

    @footbalfan1962 said:

    I take it you failed History class

    I take that you should fuck off dude with 59 posts. 

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