Higgins Did Not Lose This Game!
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He played great, and fumbled the ball. I can't take anything from him because in the same position, human nature tells you "go for it".
There were many plays that lost us the game and I hope we can grow out of this.
Regarding Higgins... The next generation of Browns fans got to experience "The Fumble" Part II.
We're Browns fans, if anything can go wrong- it will- at the worst possible time.
Now MHO, and others watching the game agree. The fumble out of bounds in the end zone is a shitty rule. I've yet to watch- but if Cowher said it, I 100% agree. That unfairly penalizes the team that fumbled the ball in that manner. Either the ball goes back to where the fumble occurred- or where the play originated with loss of down. It's not that hard.
Regarding Higgins... The next generation of Browns fans got to experience "The Fumble" Part II.
We're Browns fans, if anything can go wrong- it will- at the worst possible time.
Now MHO, and others watching the game agree. The fumble out of bounds in the end zone is a shitty rule. I've yet to watch- but if Cowher said it, I 100% agree. That unfairly penalizes the team that fumbled the ball in that manner. Either the ball goes back to where the fumble occurred- or where the play originated with loss of down. It's not that hard.
Totally agreed. Even if they want to keep it, then make it a touchback if it is ONLY on 4th down.
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I'd take Vag over Gipper any day of the week, and about 34 times on Sundays.
Why? Because you and he can "fit" into the same shoe size?
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Vag is not a troll and it is even more enjoyable talking to him than some "Browns' fans" around here.
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He played great, and fumbled the ball. I can't take anything from him because in the same position, human nature tells you "go for it".
There were many plays that lost us the game and I hope we can grow out of this.
Regarding Higgins... The next generation of Browns fans got to experience "The Fumble" Part II.
We're Browns fans, if anything can go wrong- it will- at the worst possible time.
Now MHO, and others watching the game agree. The fumble out of bounds in the end zone is a shitty rule. I've yet to watch- but if Cowher said it, I 100% agree. That unfairly penalizes the team that fumbled the ball in that manner. Either the ball goes back to where the fumble occurred- or where the play originated with loss of down. It's not that hard.
Regarding Higgins... The next generation of Browns fans got to experience "The Fumble" Part II.
We're Browns fans, if anything can go wrong- it will- at the worst possible time.
The fumble was the result of a blown missed call on a blatant head-to-head hit.
The only thing that went wrong is that the refs completely missed why he fumbled.
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Regarding Higgins... The next generation of Browns fans got to experience "The Fumble" Part II.
We're Browns fans, if anything can go wrong- it will- at the worst possible time.
The fumble was the result of a blown missed call on a blatant head-to-head hit.
The only thing that went wrong is that the refs completely missed why he fumbled.
The fumble was the result of a blown missed call on a blatant head-to-head hit.
The only thing that went wrong is that the refs completely missed why he fumbled.
Now let's not get on the refs TOO hard.. OTOH, they did totally miss that Mahomes pass that clearly was an incompletion earlier- that was a play Stef certainly should have challenged. Oh, and Honey Badger not only kicking Landry in the head, but standing over him and taunting. No calls on either.
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I'd take Vag over Gipper any day of the week, and about 34 times on Sundays.
Why? Because you and he can "fit" into the same shoe size?
Why? Because you and he can "fit" into the same shoe size?
I'm just quoting this to bitch on Dutch's and Tour's ignore list.
You have to understand.....Any fan of any other team that shows up here is a troll.
No.
Anyone who doesn't bring good arguments and doesn't read what is being said/answered to simply state some proudful thoughts to just make people angry and feast on their alleged superiority is a troll.
I'm up for other team's fans joining in to share their viewpoints.
I'm here to get information and have some interesting discussions about a team and sport I love. I'm not here to jerk off with a bunch of thoughtless fans thinking alike or to stand people just wanting to spit out whatever comes from their ass so they can get people angry or/and tired so they feel good about themselves.
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Why? Because you and he can "fit" into the same shoe size?
I'm just quoting this to bitch on Dutch's and Tour's ignore list.
You have to understand.....Any fan of any other team that shows up here is a troll.
No.
Anyone who doesn't bring good arguments and doesn't read what is being said/answered to simply state some proudful thoughts to just make people angry and feast on their alleged superiority is a troll.
I'm up for other team's fans joining in to share their viewpoints.
I'm here to get information and have some interesting discussions about a team and sport I love. I'm not here to jerk off with a bunch of thoughtless fans thinking alike or to stand people just wanting to spit out whatever comes from their ass so they can get people angry or/and tired so they feel good about themselves.
I'm just quoting this to bitch on Dutch and Tour's ignore list.
No.
Anyone who doesn't bring good arguments and doesn't read what is being said/answered to simply state some proudful thoughts to just make people angry and feast on their alleged superiority is a troll.
Doesn't read? Did you read the part where I said that we have a different definition? Another vagary of the English language...where a word can have disparate meanings.
I'm up for other team's fans joining in to share their viewpoints.
I am not opposed to that at all.....I have engaged with Vag more than anyone.....but I also call him on all of his delusional ideas.
I'm here to get information and have some interesting discussions about a team and sport I love. I'm not here to jerk off to a bunch of thoughtless fans thinking alike or to stand people just wanting to spit out whatever comes from their ass so they can get people angry or/and tired and feel good about themselves.
That can come off a bit wishy washy. Don't they have any team fan rivalries over there where they really get after one another?
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As to who is saying Higgins, pretty much everyone on TV.. Real Browns fans understand he was trying to win the game..
Stephanski called a ballsy game. Twice 4th and short on our side of the field and going for it.. Balls..... He missed an easy red flag on that "reception".. Not sure how much that played into anything.. But a very obvious mistake. Then losing the Timeout on an obvious reception not 2 plays later.. Another mistake...
The Baker INT was a horrible horrible pass. It resulted in ZERO points. But then again it negated us getting points on that possession.
The Defense was always going to be our downfall and it showed today... All we needed was ONE stop on that last possession and they just couldn't do it... Next year we will address our defense....
It was a great year and even with this bitter loss, it shows how far we've come in a very short amount of time.
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Why? Because you and he can "fit" into the same shoe size?
I'm just quoting this to bitch on Dutch's and Tour's ignore list.
You have to understand.....Any fan of any other team that shows up here is a troll.
No.
Anyone who doesn't bring good arguments and doesn't read what is being said/answered to simply state some proudful thoughts to just make people angry and feast on their alleged superiority is a troll.
I'm up for other team's fans joining in to share their viewpoints.
I'm here to get information and have some interesting discussions about a team and sport I love. I'm not here to jerk off with a bunch of thoughtless fans thinking alike or to stand people just wanting to spit out whatever comes from their ass so they can get people angry or/and tired so they feel good about themselves.
I'm just quoting this to bitch on Dutch's and Tour's ignore list.
lmao...
You know we can fix that!
Miss you as we might, you will be exacting too great of a price if you persist in this kind of shenanigans*...
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*Look that word up you lil shit...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I'm just quoting this to bitch on Dutch's and Tour's ignore list.
lmao...
You know we can fix that!
Miss you as we might, you will be exacting too great of a price if you persist in this kind of shenanigans*...
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
*Look that word up you lil shit...
lmao...
You know we can fix that!
Miss you as we might, you will be exacting too great of a price if you persist in this kind of shenanigans*...
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
*Look that word up you lil shit...
I know the word shenanigans. It's phonetically interesting.
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That makes two of us... I saw neither a concussive blow nor rapid head movement to explain the kid literally being out on his feet as he got up.
Plus as you said bit of a necktie tackle, but nothing viscious. I actually wonder if Pat had a mini-stroke due to a blood clot being shaken loose. I did not hear of him going to a hospital, but he should and spend a nite or two.
Go watch it, his head goes straight down into the ground. Hard.
Go watch it, his head goes straight down into the ground. Hard.
OK... I did and watched the Dr. Whats-his-face video ATOM posted... and I can see where the brow of his helmet could have hit the ground, but in the low angle shot the impact is just out of frame.
Also I watched his neck angle and there is no change all the way thru the play. Also no turf in the top of the facebar... only a couple blades of grass flying...
I accept that there is no other explanation... not even a stroke
... but still don't see the impact.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Go watch it, his head goes straight down into the ground. Hard.
OK... I did and watched the Dr. Whats-his-face video ATOM posted... and I can see where the brow of his helmet could have hit the ground, but in the low angle shot the impact is just out of frame.
Also I watched his neck angle and there is no change all the way thru the play. Also no turf in the top of the facebar... only a couple blades of grass flying...
I accept that there is no other explanation... not even a stroke
... but still don't see the impact.
OK... I did and watched the Dr. Whats-his-face video ATOM posted... and I can see where the brow of his helmet could have hit the ground, but in the low angle shot the impact is just out of frame.
Also I watched his neck angle and there is no change all the way thru the play. Also no turf in the top of the facebar... only a couple blades of grass flying...
I accept that there is no other explanation... not even a stroke
... but still don't see the impact.
Slow mo and full speed look different. All i know is something happened because it looked like he took an uppercut from mike tyson.
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Why? Because you and he can "fit" into the same shoe size?
I'm just quoting this to bitch on Dutch's and Tour's ignore list.
You have to understand.....Any fan of any other team that shows up here is a troll.
No.
Anyone who doesn't bring good arguments and doesn't read what is being said/answered to simply state some proudful thoughts to just make people angry and feast on their alleged superiority is a troll.
I'm up for other team's fans joining in to share their viewpoints.
I'm here to get information and have some interesting discussions about a team and sport I love. I'm not here to jerk off with a bunch of thoughtless fans thinking alike or to stand people just wanting to spit out whatever comes from their ass so they can get people angry or/and tired so they feel good about themselves.
I'm just quoting this to bitch on Dutch's and Tour's ignore list.
No.
Anyone who doesn't bring good arguments and doesn't read what is being said/answered to simply state some proudful thoughts to just make people angry and feast on their alleged superiority is a troll.
I'm up for other team's fans joining in to share their viewpoints.
I'm here to get information and have some interesting discussions about a team and sport I love. I'm not here to jerk off with a bunch of thoughtless fans thinking alike or to stand people just wanting to spit out whatever comes from their ass so they can get people angry or/and tired so they feel good about themselves.
I don't give one single shit about how gipper feels about me. He wants me to be a troll so he can run around old man flexing in the mirror. I gave him a purpose and now that he's on ignore he feels lost. I'm here for info and I like talking with some of you. Gipper can't handle that I guess. ?
AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month) -
What I want to know is if Vag has adopted his given name on other forums he's on? Vagitron surely sounds like someone i'd want to hang out with more than rorbotron.
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
I never learned how to properly tie a noose.
I'm not a Republican.
I take it you failed History class
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The vag is correct. Now get the hell outta here ya yinzer.
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If I were the troll some make me out to be I SHOULD be in here talking shit. It's just not my style and with gipper on ignore I've found my brownsboard zen. I might block the other mouth breathers too.
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I never learned how to properly tie a noose.
I'm not a Republican.
I take it you failed History class
I take it you failed History class
I take that you should fuck off dude with 59 posts.
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Sorry for the caps in my initial post name. As usual, every Browns game takes me to the fucking bitter end and several more craft beers than I expected to drink.. So needless to say I am still freaking feeling the after affects....
After reading my drunken posts, I will stand by them.. This is not the "fumble" part 2. It was a fluke play that called into question a ridiculous rule that hopefully will be re-considered this year...
As some internet talking head said for days before this game.. We were playing with house money. We weren't expected to be good this year. We sure as hell weren't supposed to make the playoff and we sure as hell, sure as hell weren't going to Beat Pittsburgh in Pittsburg in the opening round. And we sure as hell weren't supposed to take the Reigning Super Bowl champs to the literal last minutes of the game... So we won on so many levels already this year... The Fumble was a choke by a player who rarely chocked. On a team that was destined to make the Super Bowl that year.. No comparison.
As to the Mahomes injury.. I am not sure if it has been discussed as to how injured Patrick had been for some time before he left the game. If I had to guess he was suffering from back spasms starting back in the 2nd quarter. And our defensive scheme shifted gears when our DC realized he was hobbled. We were sending a 5th man at him even if it meant going man on man and getting burned. Just so we could put a body on him and knock him down. And it worked, even before he went out of the game.. I have no idea what possessed him or his coach to put him in a position to run that ball like he did... He or his coach took him out of that game.. We just did the work for them... It was clean but brutal...
But then again YOU ARE NOT A RUNNING BACK.. And this is why running QB's do not last in this league. Both Lamar and Patrick were taken out of their respective games by hard hits. So maybe this will call into question this move towards QB's that both run and throw well. But always seem to fall back on the run when the need arises and almost inevitably leads to an injury.
Go Browns!! For the last time this season... Can't wait for next year.. Can't believe I am saying this and not being sarcastic
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