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  • Per this report,  Watt's chances of going to Steelers are slim and none, and Slim just left the building:

    It says   Packers, Bills, Titans are the favorites with Browns and Raiders still possible:

    https://sports.yahoo.com/dream-j-j-watt-steelers-150202924.html

  • he will be a packer.  would be nice if he comes here but don't have my hopes up.

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  • If he wanted to play for the Browns he would have signed by now. He’s waiting for the other teams to clear salary before he signs 

  • LBC mikeL LBC mike

    he will be a packer.  would be nice if he comes here but don't have my hopes up.

    @lbc-mike said:

    he will be a packer.  would be nice if he comes here but don't have my hopes up.

    I think so too.  Holding out hope though.

    We have some holes on the front and we need some kind of backup plan. 

  • We'll see what happens around 3/15. I think Berry is extremely intelligent & "forward thinking". I trust him & his staff to make the move(s) that best helps the Browns now & later.

    Mike

    IN DORSEY I TRUST

  • JJ Watt just signed with the Cardinals, 2 years @$31 million. 

    Glad that's over. 

    Karlis Missed
    Tour2maT ATOMA 2 Replies

  • Glad to see he is chasing the ring. With the 49ers, Rams and Seahawks in their division the Cardinals won't smell playoffs.

    runyon27R The GipperT 2 Replies

  • 2 yr. 31M / 23M guaranteed.  That’s a little rich.  Good luck JJ.

    Looks like he still wanted to make some money.

    Next....What’s plan B? 

  • BarryB Barry

    Glad to see he is chasing the ring. With the 49ers, Rams and Seahawks in their division the Cardinals won't smell playoffs.

    @barry said:

    Glad to see he is chasing the ring. With the 49ers, Rams and Seahawks in their division the Cardinals won't smell playoffs.

    Yeah I do not understand this move one bit. This isn't playing for a contender, this is a money grab. But if its just a money grab, then why leave Houston. Yeah the Cardinals are a better team, but they aren't smelling an NFC Championship let alone a SB anytime soon.

  • BarryB Barry

    Glad to see he is chasing the ring. With the 49ers, Rams and Seahawks in their division the Cardinals won't smell playoffs.

    @barry said:

    Glad to see he is chasing the ring. With the 49ers, Rams and Seahawks in their division the Cardinals won't smell playoffs.

    I don’t see that is chasing a ring I see it is chasing  the money

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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @barry said:

    Glad to see he is chasing the ring. With the 49ers, Rams and Seahawks in their division the Cardinals won't smell playoffs.

    I don’t see that is chasing a ring I see it is chasing  the money

    @the-gipper said:

    I don’t see that is chasing a ring I see it is chasing  the money

    I sensed a little sarcasm in the post you responded to-  the Cards at their very best appear to be a first playoff exit type of team.  

  • Cards have their QB and a first-ballot HOF-level WR.. whether they have the right OL, defense and coaches in place to make a run of any sort is a different thread altogether.

    Now we can close this thread and move to the business of actual championship contenders => signing free agents with good value to affordable contracts so that the backups can perform when called upon to keep next year's run on the tracks.

    The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
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  • Watt took the place that at least had a blueprint for success and offered him the most money. Murray somewhat quietly showed regression in a lot of areas last year, so we shall see. 

    I hope everyone here realizes that $23 million guaranteed for a 32 year old DE who objectively has shown decline in health and stats was not it for this club. We have way too many young guys to pay for that short term cap struggle.

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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @barry said:

    Glad to see he is chasing the ring. With the 49ers, Rams and Seahawks in their division the Cardinals won't smell playoffs.

    I don’t see that is chasing a ring I see it is chasing  the money

    @the-gipper said:

    I don’t see that is chasing a ring I see it is chasing  the money

    That's what I was implying. Maybe my posting is off still from looking at Hilton all night. And no, I don't mean Mike. ?

  • Bob806B Bob806

    JJ Watt just signed with the Cardinals, 2 years @$31 million. 

    Glad that's over. 

    @bob806 said:

    JJ Watt just signed with the Cardinals, 2 years @$31 million. 

    Glad that's over.

    More $$$ than I thought and to play with a team I never thought about...

    Just like Grossi and MKC. 😁

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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  • jrb12711J jrb12711

    Watt took the place that at least had a blueprint for success and offered him the most money. Murray somewhat quietly showed regression in a lot of areas last year, so we shall see. 

    I hope everyone here realizes that $23 million guaranteed for a 32 year old DE who objectively has shown decline in health and stats was not it for this club. We have way too many young guys to pay for that short term cap struggle.

    @jrb12711 said:

    Murray somewhat quietly showed regression in a lot of areas last year,

    My impression as well, but hos statline doesn't support this view...

    image.thumb.png.ad49c622a3f73bd43c7fe10a874299f7.png

    What we, or at least I, also forget is AZ improved its record last season... from 5-10-1 to 8-8. Plus their rankings, Offensively and Defensively, were up across the board.

    Is JJ still a player that can put them over the top? Dunno... but AZ's FO seems to think so.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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  • Bob806B Bob806

    JJ Watt just signed with the Cardinals, 2 years @$31 million. 

    Glad that's over. 

    @bob806 said:

    JJ Watt just signed with the Cardinals, 2 years @$31 million. 

    Glad that's over. 

    i am sure we will never find out (or hey maybe a leak) what we offered But that money seems a bit rich for a ageing player  I wonder what the odds are for how many games watt will play ? i am guessins less than 12

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  • ATOMA ATOM

    @bob806 said:

    JJ Watt just signed with the Cardinals, 2 years @$31 million. 

    Glad that's over. 

    i am sure we will never find out (or hey maybe a leak) what we offered But that money seems a bit rich for a ageing player  I wonder what the odds are for how many games watt will play ? i am guessins less than 12

    @atom said:

    i am sure we will never find out (or hey maybe a leak) what we offered But that money seems a bit rich for a ageing player  I wonder what the odds are for how many games watt will play ? i am guessins less than 12

    He would be a nice get as a rotational player but agreed... Not at that price...

    Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @jrb12711 said:

    Murray somewhat quietly showed regression in a lot of areas last year,

    My impression as well, but hos statline doesn't support this view...

    image.thumb.png.ad49c622a3f73bd43c7fe10a874299f7.png

    What we, or at least I, also forget is AZ improved its record last season... from 5-10-1 to 8-8. Plus their rankings, Offensively and Defensively, were up across the board.

    Is JJ still a player that can put them over the top? Dunno... but AZ's FO seems to think so.

    @tour2ma said:

    My impression as well, but hos statline doesn't support this view...

    image.thumb.png.ad49c622a3f73bd43c7fe10a874299f7.png

    What we, or at least I, also forget is AZ improved its record last season... from 5-10-1 to 8-8. Plus their rankings, Offensively and Defensively, were up across the board.

    Is JJ still a player that can put them over the top? Dunno... but AZ's FO seems to think so.

    I can't speak for defense, but you definitely may be right there. The thing about Kyler, though, is that the stats are padded a good bit from first half of season to 2nd half of season. This article speaks to it well: https://apnews.com/article/nfl-seattle-seahawks-new-england-patriots-football-arizona-cardinals-c70809423b944b6773a21c41f05081cc. I'm not suggesting he isn't on the upswing, but I'm going to be really interested to see how he looks this year. There's a lot of evidence to suggest teams started figuring him out a bit.

  • nickersN nickers

    @atom said:

    i am sure we will never find out (or hey maybe a leak) what we offered But that money seems a bit rich for a ageing player  I wonder what the odds are for how many games watt will play ? i am guessins less than 12

    He would be a nice get as a rotational player but agreed... Not at that price...

    @nickers said:

    He would be a nice get as a rotational player but agreed... Not at that price...

    I look at JJ Watt as kind of a Charles Haley, Bruce Smith, or Harvey Martin....DEs who were so physically gifted they had long careers and production. We will see how it goes in Arizona.

    Saying that I'm glad the Browns didn't pay him that money. The Browns have some tough choices coming up on players they drafted, spend wisely.

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