JJ Watt to Cardinals
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JJ Watt just signed with the Cardinals, 2 years @$31 million.
Glad that's over.
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Glad to see he is chasing the ring. With the 49ers, Rams and Seahawks in their division the Cardinals won't smell playoffs.
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2 yr. 31M / 23M guaranteed. That’s a little rich. Good luck JJ.
Looks like he still wanted to make some money.
Next....What’s plan B?
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Glad to see he is chasing the ring. With the 49ers, Rams and Seahawks in their division the Cardinals won't smell playoffs.
Glad to see he is chasing the ring. With the 49ers, Rams and Seahawks in their division the Cardinals won't smell playoffs.
Yeah I do not understand this move one bit. This isn't playing for a contender, this is a money grab. But if its just a money grab, then why leave Houston. Yeah the Cardinals are a better team, but they aren't smelling an NFC Championship let alone a SB anytime soon.
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Glad to see he is chasing the ring. With the 49ers, Rams and Seahawks in their division the Cardinals won't smell playoffs.
Glad to see he is chasing the ring. With the 49ers, Rams and Seahawks in their division the Cardinals won't smell playoffs.
I don’t see that is chasing a ring I see it is chasing the money
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I don’t see that is chasing a ring I see it is chasing the money
I sensed a little sarcasm in the post you responded to- the Cards at their very best appear to be a first playoff exit type of team.
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Cards have their QB and a first-ballot HOF-level WR.. whether they have the right OL, defense and coaches in place to make a run of any sort is a different thread altogether.
Now we can close this thread and move to the business of actual championship contenders => signing free agents with good value to affordable contracts so that the backups can perform when called upon to keep next year's run on the tracks.
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Watt took the place that at least had a blueprint for success and offered him the most money. Murray somewhat quietly showed regression in a lot of areas last year, so we shall see.
I hope everyone here realizes that $23 million guaranteed for a 32 year old DE who objectively has shown decline in health and stats was not it for this club. We have way too many young guys to pay for that short term cap struggle.
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I don’t see that is chasing a ring I see it is chasing the money
That's what I was implying. Maybe my posting is off still from looking at Hilton all night. And no, I don't mean Mike. ?
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JJ Watt just signed with the Cardinals, 2 years @$31 million.
Glad that's over.
JJ Watt just signed with the Cardinals, 2 years @$31 million.
Glad that's over.
More $$$ than I thought and to play with a team I never thought about...
Just like Grossi and MKC.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Watt took the place that at least had a blueprint for success and offered him the most money. Murray somewhat quietly showed regression in a lot of areas last year, so we shall see.
I hope everyone here realizes that $23 million guaranteed for a 32 year old DE who objectively has shown decline in health and stats was not it for this club. We have way too many young guys to pay for that short term cap struggle.
Murray somewhat quietly showed regression in a lot of areas last year,
My impression as well, but hos statline doesn't support this view...
What we, or at least I, also forget is AZ improved its record last season... from 5-10-1 to 8-8. Plus their rankings, Offensively and Defensively, were up across the board.
Is JJ still a player that can put them over the top? Dunno... but AZ's FO seems to think so.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
JJ Watt just signed with the Cardinals, 2 years @$31 million.
Glad that's over.
JJ Watt just signed with the Cardinals, 2 years @$31 million.
Glad that's over.
i am sure we will never find out (or hey maybe a leak) what we offered But that money seems a bit rich for a ageing player I wonder what the odds are for how many games watt will play ? i am guessins less than 12
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JJ Watt just signed with the Cardinals, 2 years @$31 million.
Glad that's over.
i am sure we will never find out (or hey maybe a leak) what we offered But that money seems a bit rich for a ageing player I wonder what the odds are for how many games watt will play ? i am guessins less than 12
i am sure we will never find out (or hey maybe a leak) what we offered But that money seems a bit rich for a ageing player I wonder what the odds are for how many games watt will play ? i am guessins less than 12
He would be a nice get as a rotational player but agreed... Not at that price...
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Murray somewhat quietly showed regression in a lot of areas last year,
My impression as well, but hos statline doesn't support this view...
What we, or at least I, also forget is AZ improved its record last season... from 5-10-1 to 8-8. Plus their rankings, Offensively and Defensively, were up across the board.
Is JJ still a player that can put them over the top? Dunno... but AZ's FO seems to think so.
My impression as well, but hos statline doesn't support this view...
What we, or at least I, also forget is AZ improved its record last season... from 5-10-1 to 8-8. Plus their rankings, Offensively and Defensively, were up across the board.
Is JJ still a player that can put them over the top? Dunno... but AZ's FO seems to think so.
I can't speak for defense, but you definitely may be right there. The thing about Kyler, though, is that the stats are padded a good bit from first half of season to 2nd half of season. This article speaks to it well: https://apnews.com/article/nfl-seattle-seahawks-new-england-patriots-football-arizona-cardinals-c70809423b944b6773a21c41f05081cc. I'm not suggesting he isn't on the upswing, but I'm going to be really interested to see how he looks this year. There's a lot of evidence to suggest teams started figuring him out a bit.
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i am sure we will never find out (or hey maybe a leak) what we offered But that money seems a bit rich for a ageing player I wonder what the odds are for how many games watt will play ? i am guessins less than 12
He would be a nice get as a rotational player but agreed... Not at that price...
He would be a nice get as a rotational player but agreed... Not at that price...
I look at JJ Watt as kind of a Charles Haley, Bruce Smith, or Harvey Martin....DEs who were so physically gifted they had long careers and production. We will see how it goes in Arizona.
Saying that I'm glad the Browns didn't pay him that money. The Browns have some tough choices coming up on players they drafted, spend wisely.
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OL PFF unit final rankings after the regular season -- Bucs at #5, Cards made a massive jump this past season to finish at 12; their OL for many years has been one of the worst
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I was kinda' hoping we'd get him. Just because we've got no real replacement for Vernon. But, the numbers have to line up. I guess you just can't have a Fearsome Foursome...or Purple People Eaters anymore. They cost too many NFL credits.
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I was kinda' hoping we'd get him. Just because we've got no real replacement for Vernon. But, the numbers have to line up. I guess you just can't have a Fearsome Foursome...or Purple People Eaters anymore. They cost too many NFL credits.
I was kinda' hoping we'd get him. Just because we've got no real replacement for Vernon. But, the numbers have to line up.
Many 'fantasy' Watt to browns offers are beginning to brew.. My only thought was that Berry could only offer Watt a 1 year deal ... Watts guaranteed 23M for 2yrs. was 2 Million more than what Garrett's re-signing bonus was for ? ?. Looks like more Berry, 1 year prove it deals coming? Baker/Ward/Chubb/Teller, all sitting 1 season away..
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I was kinda' hoping we'd get him. Just because we've got no real replacement for Vernon. But, the numbers have to line up.
Many 'fantasy' Watt to browns offers are beginning to brew.. My only thought was that Berry could only offer Watt a 1 year deal ... Watts guaranteed 23M for 2yrs. was 2 Million more than what Garrett's re-signing bonus was for ? ?. Looks like more Berry, 1 year prove it deals coming? Baker/Ward/Chubb/Teller, all sitting 1 season away..
Baker/Ward/Chubb/Teller, all sitting 1 season away..
I've gotta say this, our defense is a much better defense with Ward on the field. I've said before, I know he gets hurt. But he gets better. He's one of the core guys that are a main reason that we now win games. Baker, Chubb, Ward, Myles, Landry, Hunt....add to that the whole OL, Hooper and OBJ (yes, OBJ). We kinda' NEED those guys!
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Baker/Ward/Chubb/Teller, all sitting 1 season away..
I've gotta say this, our defense is a much better defense with Ward on the field. I've said before, I know he gets hurt. But he gets better. He's one of the core guys that are a main reason that we now win games. Baker, Chubb, Ward, Myles, Landry, Hunt....add to that the whole OL, Hooper and OBJ (yes, OBJ). We kinda' NEED those guys!
I've gotta say this, our defense is a much better defense with Ward on the field. I've said before, I know he gets hurt. But he gets better. He's one of the core guys that are a main reason that we now win games. Baker, Chubb, Ward, Myles, Landry, Hunt....add to that the whole OL, Hooper and OBJ (yes, OBJ). We kinda' NEED those guys!
The Problem with Ward - how are you paying Baker $$$$ and you have Myles on the Books for $$$$$ and afford anything else?
Some folks on here think we will not have to pay top 5 type corner money on him. I disagree. He’s gonna get paid in an open market.
If I had it my way I’d beef up the pass rush opposite of Myles and make the pocket unbearable.
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