Rumor Going Around ... Haden Failed Drug Test
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What's more important his right to appeal or the fact that he is a drug abuser?
Its adderall. It doesn't really effect your body unless you OD. The effect of it is that it gets you really focused.
Its adderall. It doesn't really effect your body unless you OD. The effect of it is that it gets you really focused.
Yah, no kidding. The issue is not what the effect of adderall is. It's that it is currently a banned substance by NFL rules and why is he taking it. If he truly has an attention disorder then that is another case but if he is just abusing it like many people do these days then that's the problem.
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First off, we don't know he is a "drug abuser." If it is proven that he DID test positive for the substance, then the NFL will take action. BUT, Haden has the ability to appeal any suspension that is levied on him. If he is taking the medication under the care of a physician, he will most likely be given the suggestion to adjust his meds by the NFL, instead of docked nearly $1 million. If he is just buying them off the streets and abusing them, he'll get suspended regardless. Hopefully this is just a mistake by a young star NFL player that he learns from. But please, don't condemn the guy as a drug addict before any of the facts come out.
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For Christ sake. What's with all the hush hush speculation? Either he popped positive or he didn't. Give him his suspension
and move on. Along with our speed freak cornerback our top draft pick is back in Podunk, Alabama seeking guidance from his
family general practioner doctor while some of the countries best orthopedic quacks are a stones throw away from training camp.
4 starters will be on the bench for the season opener and the hits just keep on coming. The Browns drama merry-go-round is getting
old. I could use about 30 mg of adderrall about now. BTW...adderall is better than the date rape drug rophies (?) when it comes to rockin your babe's
panties. just sayin
For Christ sake. What's with all the hush hush speculation? Either he popped positive or he didn't. Give him his suspension
and move on. Along with our speed freak cornerback our top draft pick is back in Podunk, Alabama seeking guidance from his
family general practioner doctor while some of the countries best orthopedic quacks are a stones throw away from training camp.
4 starters will be on the bench for the season opener and the hits just keep on coming. The Browns drama merry-go-round is getting
old. I could use about 30 mg of adderrall about now. BTW...adderall is better than the date rape drug rophies (?) when it comes to rockin your babe's
panties. just sayin
Yes.it is, yes it does.
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Guys relax! He hasn't even been suspended yet and if he is suspended he will be able to appeal it! Here's some more info on the matter..
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/08/report-joe-haden-faces-four-game-suspension/
Jimmy Haslam may be having a mild case of buyer’s remorse.
With questions swirling about the knee of top-three draft pick Trent Richardson, a report has now emerged that 2010 top-1o pick Joe Haden could miss the first four games of the season for violating the league’s policy against steroids and related substances.
Will Burge and Tony Grossi of ESPNCleveland.com report that the league currently is “reviewing” a failed drug test for Adderall, a banned substance.
Per the report, Haden has been informed that he tested positive. He apparently has not yet filed an appeal.
If there’s an appeal, the suspension could be delayed indefinitely. Some appeals in the past have taken months to complete; Haden wouldn’t be suspended until the process ends.
For Haden, if he had a prescription to take Adderall, he could finagle a reduction or complete reversal of the suspension. However, recent precedent from the league on that point has been all over the map.
Then again, because teams and the league can say nothing about the reason for a player’s suspension under the steroids policy, it’s possible that Adderall has become the new dog-ate-my-homework-style excuse for players who don’t want to be stigmatized by the “S” word.
For now, all anyone can do is wait and see. The team has said and will say nothing publicly, unless and until the suspension is official.
Guys relax! He hasn't even been suspended yet and if he is suspended he will be able to appeal it! Here's some more info on the matter..
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/08/report-joe-haden-faces-four-game-suspension/
Jimmy Haslam may be having a mild case of buyer’s remorse.
With questions swirling about the knee of top-three draft pick Trent Richardson, a report has now emerged that 2010 top-1o pick Joe Haden could miss the first four games of the season for violating the league’s policy against steroids and related substances.
Will Burge and Tony Grossi of ESPNCleveland.com report that the league currently is “reviewing” a failed drug test for Adderall, a banned substance.
Per the report, Haden has been informed that he tested positive. He apparently has not yet filed an appeal.
If there’s an appeal, the suspension could be delayed indefinitely. Some appeals in the past have taken months to complete; Haden wouldn’t be suspended until the process ends.
For Haden, if he had a prescription to take Adderall, he could finagle a reduction or complete reversal of the suspension. However, recent precedent from the league on that point has been all over the map.
Then again, because teams and the league can say nothing about the reason for a player’s suspension under the steroids policy, it’s possible that Adderall has become the new dog-ate-my-homework-style excuse for players who don’t want to be stigmatized by the “S” word.
For now, all anyone can do is wait and see. The team has said and will say nothing publicly, unless and until the suspension is official.
hmmm, who exactly said it was adderall? i wonder.....the only reason to take adderall would be to speed.......but then why not just do cocaine?..........you're a millionaire many times over, you can afford it and it's out of your system faster than adderall anyway........hmmmmmmm, maybe he was roiding it up.
makes more sense than adderall.
with all i've heard about Big Ben being a rapist and i go to a online sex offender registry and look up cleveland and Pittsburgh and what do i find? cleveland has a CRAP load more sex offenders (and expecially child molesters) than Pittsburgh.......over 4X as many over all. 2055 of them to Pittsburgh's 421. www.familywatchdog.us better never hear one of you date raping, can't get a woman with my tiny peep unless i hold her down, child molesting hypocrits say anything else about Ben. -
oh boy. here we go.
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Guys relax! He hasn't even been suspended yet and if he is suspended he will be able to appeal it! Here's some more info on the matter..
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/08/report-joe-haden-faces-four-game-suspension/
Jimmy Haslam may be having a mild case of buyer’s remorse.
With questions swirling about the knee of top-three draft pick Trent Richardson, a report has now emerged that 2010 top-1o pick Joe Haden could miss the first four games of the season for violating the league’s policy against steroids and related substances.
Will Burge and Tony Grossi of ESPNCleveland.com report that the league currently is “reviewing” a failed drug test for Adderall, a banned substance.
Per the report, Haden has been informed that he tested positive. He apparently has not yet filed an appeal.
If there’s an appeal, the suspension could be delayed indefinitely. Some appeals in the past have taken months to complete; Haden wouldn’t be suspended until the process ends.
For Haden, if he had a prescription to take Adderall, he could finagle a reduction or complete reversal of the suspension. However, recent precedent from the league on that point has been all over the map.
Then again, because teams and the league can say nothing about the reason for a player’s suspension under the steroids policy, it’s possible that Adderall has become the new dog-ate-my-homework-style excuse for players who don’t want to be stigmatized by the “S” word.
For now, all anyone can do is wait and see. The team has said and will say nothing publicly, unless and until the suspension is official.
hmmm, who exactly said it was adderall? i wonder.....the only reason to take adderall would be to speed.......but then why not just do cocaine?..........you're a millionaire many times over, you can afford it and it's out of your system faster than adderall anyway........hmmmmmmm, maybe he was roiding it up.
makes more sense than adderall.
hmmm, who exactly said it was adderall? i wonder.....the only reason to take adderall would be to speed.......but then why not just do cocaine?..........you're a millionaire many times over, you can afford it and it's out of your system faster than adderall anyway........hmmmmmmm, maybe he was roiding it up.
makes more sense than adderall.
Adderall is cheaper, lasts longer and carries a much less severe penalty for possession
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hmmm, who exactly said it was adderall? i wonder.....the only reason to take adderall would be to speed.......but then why not just do cocaine?..........you're a millionaire many times over, you can afford it and it's out of your system faster than adderall anyway........hmmmmmmm, maybe he was roiding it up.
makes more sense than adderall.
Adderall is cheaper, lasts longer and carries a much less severe penalty for possession
Adderall is cheaper, lasts longer and carries a much less severe penalty for possession
hey, that's good to know!
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hmmm, who exactly said it was adderall? i wonder.....the only reason to take adderall would be to speed.......but then why not just do cocaine?..........you're a millionaire many times over, you can afford it and it's out of your system faster than adderall anyway........hmmmmmmm, maybe he was roiding it up.
makes more sense than adderall.
Adderall is cheaper, lasts longer and carries a much less severe penalty for possession
Adderall is cheaper, lasts longer and carries a much less severe penalty for possession
Actually, cocaine and adderall are both schedule 2 drugs and carry a penalty of up to 1 year in prison and/or a $1000 fine. Maybe fact check before you post something stupid and erroneous.
"The purpose of the military is to kill people and break things " - mike huckabee -
Adderall is cheaper, lasts longer and carries a much less severe penalty for possession
Actually, cocaine and adderall are both schedule 2 drugs and carry a penalty of up to 1 year in prison and/or a $1000 fine. Maybe fact check before you post something stupid and erroneous.
Actually, cocaine and adderall are both schedule 2 drugs and carry a penalty of up to 1 year in prison and/or a $1000 fine. Maybe fact check before you post something stupid and erroneous.
Cocaine is c1, not c2. Any "illegal substance" ie weed, heroin (not morphine) coke, is c1. I've been out of the pharmaceutical game for 5 yrs, but I can't imagine they changed the scheduling on narcotics that much in 5 yrs.
For reference, all hydrocodones c3, oxycodones c2, most adhd meds (adderall) c2, darvocet c4, childrens pain meds c4, soma, ultram et al c5.
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Actually, cocaine and adderall are both schedule 2 drugs and carry a penalty of up to 1 year in prison and/or a $1000 fine. Maybe fact check before you post something stupid and erroneous.
Cocaine is c1, not c2. Any "illegal substance" ie weed, heroin (not morphine) coke, is c1. I've been out of the pharmaceutical game for 5 yrs, but I can't imagine they changed the scheduling on narcotics that much in 5 yrs.
For reference, all hydrocodones c3, oxycodones c2, most adhd meds (adderall) c2, darvocet c4, childrens pain meds c4, soma, ultram et al c5.
Cocaine is c1, not c2. Any "illegal substance" ie weed, heroin (not morphine) coke, is c1. I've been out of the pharmaceutical game for 5 yrs, but I can't imagine they changed the scheduling on narcotics that much in 5 yrs.
For reference, all hydrocodones c3, oxycodones c2, most adhd meds (adderall) c2, darvocet c4, childrens pain meds c4, soma, ultram et al c5.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schedule_II_(US)#Schedule_II_drugs
this puts them in the same schedule (or class, if those are synonyms) and I would definitely believe that the classes could have changed because adderall has really grown in use and abuse in the last 5 years. I had a prescription while in college and people would hound me for that stuff.
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Cocaine is c1, not c2. Any "illegal substance" ie weed, heroin (not morphine) coke, is c1. I've been out of the pharmaceutical game for 5 yrs, but I can't imagine they changed the scheduling on narcotics that much in 5 yrs.
For reference, all hydrocodones c3, oxycodones c2, most adhd meds (adderall) c2, darvocet c4, childrens pain meds c4, soma, ultram et al c5.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schedule_II_(US)#Schedule_II_drugs
this puts them in the same schedule (or class, if those are synonyms) and I would definitely believe that the classes could have changed because adderall has really grown in use and abuse in the last 5 years. I had a prescription while in college and people would hound me for that stuff.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schedule_II_(US)#Schedule_II_drugs
this puts them in the same schedule (or class, if those are synonyms) and I would definitely believe that the classes could have changed because adderall has really grown in use and abuse in the last 5 years. I had a prescription while in college and people would hound me for that stuff.
I stand corrected sir. You are right.
Typically c1s have "no accepted medicinal use" which is the loophole most weed advocates cite. I suppose they changed coke since its made from the same plant as a lot of painkillers.
At any rate, thanks for pointing that out. Always good to learn.
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I want to set the record straight...i am the one that put the dextroamphetamine and amphetamine in Joe Haden's drink this summer. I apologize and Joe did not know about it as a lied and told him it was just a rum and coke. I will take full responsibility if the league needs to suspend me from attending multiple games i shall comply as long as someone hooks me up with DirecTV Sunday ticket as I signed a 2 year with DISH and got screwed over since now i can no longer watch Breaking Bad as this was where i got the idea of cooking some good stuff for Joe and the Gang.
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tough to lose AMC with all those great shows for another disappointing browns year.
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I want to set the record straight...i am the one that put the dextroamphetamine and amphetamine in Joe Haden's drink this summer. I apologize and Joe did not know about it as a lied and told him it was just a rum and coke. I will take full responsibility if the league needs to suspend me from attending multiple games i shall comply as long as someone hooks me up with DirecTV Sunday ticket as I signed a 2 year with DISH and got screwed over since now i can no longer watch Breaking Bad as this was where i got the idea of cooking some good stuff for Joe and the Gang.
I want to set the record straight...i am the one that put the dextroamphetamine and amphetamine in Joe Haden's drink this summer. I apologize and Joe did not know about it as a lied and told him it was just a rum and coke. I will take full responsibility if the league needs to suspend me from attending multiple games i shall comply as long as someone hooks me up with DirecTV Sunday ticket as I signed a 2 year with DISH and got screwed over since now i can no longer watch Breaking Bad as this was where i got the idea of cooking some good stuff for Joe and the Gang.
You're missing out BB is the shit.
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I want to set the record straight...i am the one that put the dextroamphetamine and amphetamine in Joe Haden's drink this summer. I apologize and Joe did not know about it as a lied and told him it was just a rum and coke. I will take full responsibility if the league needs to suspend me from attending multiple games i shall comply as long as someone hooks me up with DirecTV Sunday ticket as I signed a 2 year with DISH and got screwed over since now i can no longer watch Breaking Bad as this was where i got the idea of cooking some good stuff for Joe and the Gang.
You're missing out BB is the shit.
You're missing out BB is the shit.
besides mad men, the walking dead and hell on wheels.
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Adderall is cheaper, lasts longer and carries a much less severe penalty for possession
Actually, cocaine and adderall are both schedule 2 drugs and carry a penalty of up to 1 year in prison and/or a $1000 fine. Maybe fact check before you post something stupid and erroneous.
Actually, cocaine and adderall are both schedule 2 drugs and carry a penalty of up to 1 year in prison and/or a $1000 fine. Maybe fact check before you post something stupid and erroneous.
Adderall is legal with a prescription. Do you know Joe hadens prescription history? If so please post it.
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Actually, cocaine and adderall are both schedule 2 drugs and carry a penalty of up to 1 year in prison and/or a $1000 fine. Maybe fact check before you post something stupid and erroneous.
Adderall is legal with a prescription. Do you know Joe hadens prescription history? If so please post it.
Adderall is legal with a prescription. Do you know Joe hadens prescription history? If so please post it.
I know this. Regretfully, I was prescribed to adderall at one point and absolutely hated the way it made me feel. I would have no way of accessing Haden's prescriptions because that should be private and protected information. If you can get that info, I don't want to know how/where you got it
"The purpose of the military is to kill people and break things " - mike huckabee -
My point is if he's prescribed to adderall there's absolutely no need to take the risk of buying and using a highly illegal substance like cocaine
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Let's get Haden's suspension out of the way during the same time that Taylor is injured.. those are going to be bad games with growing pains for the offense.
Rip the bandaid off quickly, take our medicine and be done with it.
Let's get Haden's suspension out of the way during the same time that Taylor is injured.. those are going to be bad games with growing pains for the offense.
Rip the bandaid off quickly, take our medicine and be done with it.
Might be a good idea.
Certainly I don't think the Browns will challenge for the playoffs this year. Sorry. It might behoove us to have all these issues out of the way: Haden, Fujita, Taylor etc.
Throw some of these young players into the fire: Winn and Hughes on the D-line, Acho and JMJ at LB, Skrine at Haden's spot.
Once the starters come back, if they do, these kids will have gotten valuable experience....and some may never give up their job (esp JMJ).
Then...for next year....with a year of experience under their belts can you say:
PLAYOFFS! Playoffs?
I talking about Playoffs....not...not...not
(Oh, wait, I seem to be mixing my quotes)
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