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  • jrb12711J jrb12711

    For what it's worth, the Twitter and speculation world are saying Banner is in Arizona to interview Ray Horton. However, the interview with Horton was a convenient reason to not only interview a coach to satisfy the Rooney rule, but also to interview Chip who happens to be in Arizona for the Fiesta Bowl.

    This is what I'll say about Chip and I could be wrong but it's just my opinion. The guy has an obvious mind for offense and is obsessed with speed. I think it's very naive to assume the guy will walk into a NFL team and implement a pure college spread. I would welcome with open arms an up tempo offensive scheme similar to the ones run in New England, Denver, Atlanta to name a few. I think it goes without saying it clearly works in the NFL. Another thing about the guy is I know he'd actually use our play-makers as they should be used. Imagine Benjamin consistently stretching defenses and Richardson getting more than 1 outside run a game.

    @jrb12711 said:

    For what it's worth, the Twitter and speculation world are saying Banner is in Arizona to interview Ray Horton. However, the interview with Horton was a convenient reason to not only interview a coach to satisfy the Rooney rule, but also to interview Chip who happens to be in Arizona for the Fiesta Bowl.

    This is what I'll say about Chip and I could be wrong but it's just my opinion. The guy has an obvious mind for offense and is obsessed with speed. I think it's very naive to assume the guy will walk into a NFL team and implement a pure college spread. I would welcome with open arms an up tempo offensive scheme similar to the ones run in New England, Denver, Atlanta to name a few. I think it goes without saying it clearly works in the NFL. Another thing about the guy is I know he'd actually use our play-makers as they should be used. Imagine Benjamin consistently stretching defenses and Richardson getting more than 1 outside run a game.

    By the way, despite certain comments reported to the contrary on the radio and the like, I think Brandon Weeden could certainly be capable of running that type of offense. Similar to what he ran at OK St.

    BW3 wouldn't be running the options that Kelly runs a lot, but most of the rest of the offense I think he could handle.

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @brownskidd said:

    92.3 reported this morning that Saban has said no to all NFL teams trying to get him.

    He has said the exact same thing every time he has made a move to another team. Don't believe it.

    If he says that he means it today, right now. Come Tuesday after his team has played its last game...things could be different.

    @the-gipper said:

    He has said the exact same thing every time he has made a move to another team. Don't believe it.

    If he says that he means it today, right now. Come Tuesday after his team has played its last game...things could be different.

    Didn't Saban tell the media, "I am the coach of the Dolphins, and I have no interest in the Bama job"

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
  • Browns149B Browns149

    @the-gipper said:

    He has said the exact same thing every time he has made a move to another team. Don't believe it.

    If he says that he means it today, right now. Come Tuesday after his team has played its last game...things could be different.

    Didn't Saban tell the media, "I am the coach of the Dolphins, and I have no interest in the Bama job"

    @browns149 said:

    Didn't Saban tell the media, "I am the coach of the Dolphins, and I have no interest in the Bama job"

    Check, and mate.

  • http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/02/chip-kelly-on-his-offense-in-the-nfl-dont-know-havent-been-there/

    Seems to understand that he needs to adjust to who is on his team... Still risky. Will need a good GM/personnel guy and maybe keep Jauron around to coach D if we do end up hiring this guy

    #Justsayin'
    BrownsKiddB Browns149B 2 Replies
  • thenew23T thenew23

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/02/chip-kelly-on-his-offense-in-the-nfl-dont-know-havent-been-there/

    Seems to understand that he needs to adjust to who is on his team... Still risky. Will need a good GM/personnel guy and maybe keep Jauron around to coach D if we do end up hiring this guy

    @thenew23 said:

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/02/chip-kelly-on-his-offense-in-the-nfl-dont-know-havent-been-there/

    Seems to understand that he needs to adjust to who is on his team... Still risky. Will need a good GM/personnel guy and maybe keep Jauron around to coach D if we do end up hiring this guy

    At least he understands that much.

  • NBC is reporting Chip Kelly to interview Friday for Browns head coach

    http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/02/report-chip-kelly-browns-to-meet-friday/related/

  • thenew23T thenew23

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/02/chip-kelly-on-his-offense-in-the-nfl-dont-know-havent-been-there/

    Seems to understand that he needs to adjust to who is on his team... Still risky. Will need a good GM/personnel guy and maybe keep Jauron around to coach D if we do end up hiring this guy

    @thenew23 said:

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/02/chip-kelly-on-his-offense-in-the-nfl-dont-know-havent-been-there/

    Seems to understand that he needs to adjust to who is on his team... Still risky. Will need a good GM/personnel guy and maybe keep Jauron around to coach D if we do end up hiring this guy

    If he understands adjusting to the team, that is a fresh aproach compared to what we just had the past 4 years of Mangini and Shurmers crap

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."

  • If I were a betting man, I'd go all in on Chip Kelly.

    Banner is flying there just blow through the Rooney Rule guy and nab Kelly before anyone else talks to him.

    Reminds me of when the Ravens outsmarted us for Brian Billick. We "insisted" that he fly to Cleveland after the Vikings playoff loss that year ... Ravens just sent a plane out and got him.

    Banner wants Kelly and is going to get him.

    Which means we need a really good defensive coordinator and a really good GM, because Kelly knows nothing about either.

    Zombo

    --Only a Saban coup will topple Kelly to Cleveland, IMO

  • My only worry about kelly is the amount of control hes gonna have....ala policy all over again. But the genius of kellys system is that its not predicated on a specific type of personnel, rather its dictated by defenses alignment. Its about gap production when runnjng the ball, and attacking open areas thru the air. Many things go into it, but its more than having a running QB. All the while using tempo to dictate substitutions and matchups.

    Nothing about his system says it cant work in the NFL....its more about how banners gonna fuck up the personnel side. It seems to be that kelly wants some control, which means a director of pro personnel rather than a GM....in the traditional sense. Banner already has said he prefers this type of setup. However, being that banner will have control over the checkbook, he has final say. So a guy like lombardi makes sense, cause any GM witb talent is not going to come running here to be a coffee fetcher. It automatically eliminates any candidates that are with other clubs that would require a "promotion", since controlling the scouting dept isnt a promotion for many qualified candidates.

    Many pitfalls await if this is the direction....could work though if kelly is as good as advertised.

  • Just heard it reported on NFL network that Kelley will not be demanding full control. He also is meeting with the Bills and Eagles this weekend as well as the Browns.

    Elsewhere, Andy Reid is meeting with the Cardinals and Chiefs and just heard it reported that he would bring our old friend Pat Shurmur with him as OC.

  • Weeden ran an offense where he would read a short pass option first and then hand off if it was not there.... Chip runs similar things with Oregon. Each play pretty much has a read and then a fall back, often into an extremely high percentage route/handoff.

  • Just an update from some things I've read, including the Mort report. Ray Horton was interviewed by the browns and according to him it went "great". Also, browns interviewed former Cardinals coach Ken Whisenhunt in Arizona yesterday. I can't say I know much about the guy outside of he was on the browns & Steelers staff along with taking the Cards to the super bowl.

    It's still obvious to me they are just buying their time to go all in for Chip Kelly, but I do like the approach of interviewing a slew of candidates.

    The GipperT 1 Reply

  • I'm not sure I want Whisenhunt, he was around great coaches when they went to the SB and he likely won't have either of those when he starts over with another team. No Ray Horton, no Todd Haley (who was great in Zona).

  • Just a question here....I keep reading stuff from the tweeters of the board....or would that be twits? 😛 ...Anyway....I keep reading about Banner but don't hear about Haslam. Is Joe doing this solo at this point?

    Not that that is a real problem for me at this point..possibly a vetting process at this point.

    Anyone know?

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
  • ballpeenB ballpeen

    Just a question here....I keep reading stuff from the tweeters of the board....or would that be twits? 😛 ...Anyway....I keep reading about Banner but don't hear about Haslam. Is Joe doing this solo at this point?

    Not that that is a real problem for me at this point..possibly a vetting process at this point.

    Anyone know?

    @ballpeen said:

    Just a question here....I keep reading stuff from the tweeters of the board....or would that be twits? 😛 ...Anyway....I keep reading about Banner but don't hear about Haslam. Is Joe doing this solo at this point?

    Not that that is a real problem for me at this point..possibly a vetting process at this point.

    Anyone know?

    Everything I've read is saying both Haslam and Banner are in AZ to interview candidates. I haven't read anything specifically saying Haslam is in the interview but based on what little I know of the guy it seems highly unlikely he's not.

    ballpeenB 1 Reply
  • jrb12711J jrb12711

    Just an update from some things I've read, including the Mort report. Ray Horton was interviewed by the browns and according to him it went "great". Also, browns interviewed former Cardinals coach Ken Whisenhunt in Arizona yesterday. I can't say I know much about the guy outside of he was on the browns & Steelers staff along with taking the Cards to the super bowl.

    It's still obvious to me they are just buying their time to go all in for Chip Kelly, but I do like the approach of interviewing a slew of candidates.

    @jrb12711 said:

    Just an update from some things I've read, including the Mort report. Ray Horton was interviewed by the browns and according to him it went "great". Also, browns interviewed former Cardinals coach Ken Whisenhunt in Arizona yesterday. I can't say I know much about the guy outside of he was on the browns & Steelers staff along with taking the Cards to the super bowl.

    It's still obvious to me they are just buying their time to go all in for Chip Kelly, but I do like the approach of interviewing a slew of candidates.

    Like I said before, I believe it was the Steelers who interviewed Mike Tomlin, believing that the only reason to do so was to fulfill the requirements of the Rooney Rule....but then they came away so impressed that they gave him the job.

    Could that happen here?

  • http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/03/browns-have-already-interviewed-bill-obrien/

    Just reported: the Browns already interviewed Bill O'brien. The plot thickens.

    #Justsayin'
  • jrb12711J jrb12711

    @ballpeen said:

    Just a question here....I keep reading stuff from the tweeters of the board....or would that be twits? 😛 ...Anyway....I keep reading about Banner but don't hear about Haslam. Is Joe doing this solo at this point?

    Not that that is a real problem for me at this point..possibly a vetting process at this point.

    Anyone know?

    Everything I've read is saying both Haslam and Banner are in AZ to interview candidates. I haven't read anything specifically saying Haslam is in the interview but based on what little I know of the guy it seems highly unlikely he's not.

    @jrb12711 said:

    Everything I've read is saying both Haslam and Banner are in AZ to interview candidates. I haven't read anything specifically saying Haslam is in the interview but based on what little I know of the guy it seems highly unlikely he's not.

    Thanks.

    Today I am reading more that says Haslam is in the house.

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.

  • Updated list of interviewees:

    Ray Horton

    Bill O'Brien

    Ken Wisenhunt

    Doug Marrone

    Chip Kelly (tomorrow)

    Also, it was reported that Banner plans to interview more candidates after Kelly. Any guesses?

    Mike McCoy

    Kyle Shanahan

    Others??

    Or is that comment simply a smoke screen?

    #Justsayin'
  • thenew23T thenew23

    Updated list of interviewees:

    Ray Horton

    Bill O'Brien

    Ken Wisenhunt

    Doug Marrone

    Chip Kelly (tomorrow)

    Also, it was reported that Banner plans to interview more candidates after Kelly. Any guesses?

    Mike McCoy

    Kyle Shanahan

    Others??

    Or is that comment simply a smoke screen?

    @thenew23 said:

    Updated list of interviewees:

    Ray Horton

    Bill O'Brien

    Ken Wisenhunt

    Doug Marrone

    Chip Kelly (tomorrow)

    Also, it was reported that Banner plans to interview more candidates after Kelly. Any guesses?

    Mike McCoy

    Kyle Shanahan

    Others??

    Or is that comment simply a smoke screen?

    I believe it is important to do all this due diligence.....but lets face it, I don't think any decision will be made until next week AFTER they have had a chance to talk to Nick Saban after his bowl game.

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