Draft Thoughts 2013
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What do people think about the bills trade? If we just swap first rounders we'd pick up something like their third rounder. If, though, we throw in a fifth, we'd get a 2nd rounder instead.
We'd move from having picks in the rounds 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 6 to 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 6. It's giving another pick, true, but to be honest a 5th rounder isn't going to be an impact starter, it'll be a project player who might contribute on ST and maybe develop in to a rotation player. We have a ton of those guys already - Wade, Carder etc.
So if we could get something like a CB in the first, RG in the second and TE in the third, I think we'd be in better shape.
I believe that's the only reason were working Smith out. I'd love to trade down but the only way it happens is if Smith miraculously falls.
XxDaBuckeyexX said:
I believe that's the only reason were working Smith out. I'd love to trade down but the only way it happens is if Smith miraculously falls.
I think the only way we trade down with the Bills at least is if they're jumping the cards for Smith, so it's unlikely. Barkley and the rest might available early second round though - it wouldn't surprise me if a QB was taken there, although I'd still like to see what Weedon can do in this offense (but that's a story for a another thread!)
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Reason Alexander was tendered with no draft pick compensation and nobody's jumped is continuing concern over his knees. He played really well last year but he has kind of a K2 stain, a guy who has really, really old knees at a very young age. Too bad because he'd otherwise be an amazing get. Rangy, fast athlete... love the guy.
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At this point I am all in for Millner if he is available.
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Once again, I think #6 is too high for a #2 CB when our pass rush will allow less time for the opposing QBs & WRs to pick us apart. Another potential trade down partner MAY be the Dolphins looking for Long's replacement at left tackle. After all, there are 3 stud LTs in the draft & 2 of those may be gone in the 1st 4 or 5 picks. If that is the case, will Miami fork over their #12 & one of their 2nd rounders? Wallace won't do much damage if his QB is sitting on his butt before he gets open. Just a thought.
Mike
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Once again, I think #6 is too high for a #2 CB when our pass rush will allow less time for the opposing QBs & WRs to pick us apart. Another potential trade down partner MAY be the Dolphins looking for Long's replacement at left tackle. After all, there are 3 stud LTs in the draft & 2 of those may be gone in the 1st 4 or 5 picks. If that is the case, will Miami fork over their #12 & one of their 2nd rounders? Wallace won't do much damage if his QB is sitting on his butt before he gets open. Just a thought.
Mike
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Actually, that's an excellent call ! The Rams are considered a definite pick at 16 for Austin.... (they are worried about somebody jumping ahead of them for him)...
and with the second round pick gained by the Browns, they select:
Darius Slay, CB out of Mississippi.
And get an OG in the third round... Winters?
those three picks could be one of the best three picks the Browns could possibly make. Austin is spectacular, Slay ran faster than Milliner, and is said to be possibly drafted before Jonathan Banks.... he has excellent skills....saw him wow them at the combine...
I thiink that would make the offense and defense complete, except for TE, maybe. Draft an excellent kicker, and hell yeah !
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Down at the One has interesting takes on who we might take. I'd love to help out Weeden and Williams.
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Making a couple of assumptions here - 1) we sign Brent Grimes; 2) he becomes starting corner with Haden. What then? Do we look at OLB again at number 6? Another assumption, but by signing Campbell we're not going to be taking Geno Smith at 6. So then we're looking at a bunch of OLB and OT guys (since we're not taking Milliner) - the more I think about it, the more I see us trading back a bit for someone like Warmack, or maybe a real huge trade like we did with the Falcons a couple of years ago for Julio Jones.
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Browns to host South Carolina safety D.J. Swearinger
by Mary Kay Cabot, The Plain Dealer
3/28/2013 5:45 PM
The Browns will host South Carolina safety D.J. Swearinger as one of their 30 pre-draft visits, a source said.
Swearinger (5-10, 208) recorded 80 tackles, two interceptions and seven breakups in 2012.
He's played every position in the defensive backfield, including cornerback, strong safety and free safety. The Browns are looking for a safety to start opposite T.J. Ward.
After watching no more film then this, i want this guy..lol
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If we draft a QB this year, I hope it's Tulane's Ryan Griffin.. in the late rounds.
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Dear lord do we need a #2 db. If Millner does not fall to us, I would say trade back 4-6 spots and get Rhodes.
One other thing. How come when we have a shitty to semi shitty season we always miss out on Elite talent, Ala Patrick Petterson, A.J. Gren, fucking Andrew Luck.
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I think there are some Elite talent players that will be on the map once the season starts
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Warmack with trade for 6
Da'Rick Rogers with trade into 2nd
Tyler Bray at 3rd Round
Honey Badger or Logan Ryan in the 4th
Hawthorne in 5th
goodbye Joe Thomas it was great knowing you.
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Here are some guys who we brought in for visits, and where they could be drafted:
Round 1 - Dee Milliner CB - Ala
Round 3 - D.J. Swearinger S - SoCar
Round 4 - Nick Kasa TE - Col
Round 5 - Brian Winters OG - KSU
Round 5 - A.J. Klein ILB - IowaSt
Round 6 - Landry Jones QB - Okl
Round 7 - Anthony Capasso - WR - Ashland
Just a possibility. Would bring in 2 starters to shore up D-secondary. Winters could compete at OG. Kasa could be a solid TE b/c of his size and athleticism.
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Here are some guys who we brought in for visits, and where they could be drafted:
Round 1 - Dee Milliner CB - Ala
Round 3 - D.J. Swearinger S - SoCar
Round 4 - Nick Kasa TE - Col
Round 5 - Brian Winters OG - KSU
Round 5 - A.J. Klein ILB - IowaSt
Round 6 - Landry Jones QB - Okl
Round 7 - Anthony Capasso - WR - Ashland
Just a possibility. Would bring in 2 starters to shore up D-secondary. Winters could compete at OG. Kasa could be a solid TE b/c of his size and athleticism.
Here are some guys who we brought in for visits, and where they could be drafted:
Round 1 - Dee Milliner CB - Ala
Round 3 - D.J. Swearinger S - SoCar
Round 4 - Nick Kasa TE - Col
Round 5 - Brian Winters OG - KSU
Round 5 - A.J. Klein ILB - IowaSt
Round 6 - Landry Jones QB - Okl
Round 7 - Anthony Capasso - WR - Ashland
Just a possibility. Would bring in 2 starters to shore up D-secondary. Winters could compete at OG. Kasa could be a solid TE b/c of his size and athleticism.
That's pretty good stuff.
Zombo
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Jarvis Jones is the best OLB in the draft, but Jordan will probably get drafted ahead of him.
The CB class sucks this year when compared to last year's class, or the year before, or.. pretty much every other year. The fourth CB in last year's class, Janoris Jenkins at STL, is better than Milliner. Slay is at best 7th in this class.. and is a passable 3rd CB but not a starter.. so because we already have 2 third CB's, either we take Milliner or just play only one CB this year. Note that the safety class this year is one of the best in recent memory - so if we can get Georgia's Rambo with our third-round pick we'd be doing well.. he's by far the best ballhawk and can hit if needed, he was set off the LOS this past year. He didn't lead the nation in INT only because he was suspended for the first 4 games.
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Here are some guys who we brought in for visits, and where they could be drafted:
Round 1 - Dee Milliner CB - Ala
Round 3 - D.J. Swearinger S - SoCar
Round 4 - Nick Kasa TE - Col
Round 5 - Brian Winters OG - KSU
Round 5 - A.J. Klein ILB - IowaSt
Round 6 - Landry Jones QB - Okl
Round 7 - Anthony Capasso - WR - Ashland
Just a possibility. Would bring in 2 starters to shore up D-secondary. Winters could compete at OG. Kasa could be a solid TE b/c of his size and athleticism.
That's pretty good stuff.
Zombo
Zombo said:
That's pretty good stuff.
Zombo
Ya, did a little more research and Winters looks to be projected as more of a 2nd to 3rd round pick, as well as Landry Jones. So, I'd bump Klein into our 1st 5th round pick, and the rest is all BPA as it really doesn't matter after that point anyway. And, Capasso isn't even on the radar according to most websites, but he is the only WR the Browns have talked to other than Tavon Austin. But, at least it looks like we're looking at guys that make sense to fill needs despite lacking a 2nd round pick.
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Here are some guys who we brought in for visits, and where they could be drafted:
Round 1 - Dee Milliner CB - Ala
Round 3 - D.J. Swearinger S - SoCar
Round 4 - Nick Kasa TE - Col
Round 5 - Brian Winters OG - KSU
Round 5 - A.J. Klein ILB - IowaSt
Round 6 - Landry Jones QB - Okl
Round 7 - Anthony Capasso - WR - Ashland
Just a possibility. Would bring in 2 starters to shore up D-secondary. Winters could compete at OG. Kasa could be a solid TE b/c of his size and athleticism.
That's pretty good stuff.
Zombo
Zombo said:
That's pretty good stuff.
Zombo
Here is a comprehensive list of visits per Walter Football:
Tavon Austin, WR, West Virginia (PRI)
Anthony Capasso, WR, Ashland (PRO)
Jonathan Cooper, OL, North Carolina (PRI)
Jonathan Cyprien, DB, Florida International (PRI)
Josh Hill, TE, Idaho State (EW)
Lane Johnson, OT, Oklahoma (COM)
Datone Jones, DL, UCLA (PRI)
Dion Jordan, DL, Oregon (PRI)
Don Jones, DB, Arkansas State (PRI)
Jarvis Jones, OLB, Georgia (COM)
Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma (PRO)
Dion Jordan, DL, Oregon (PRI)
Nick Kasa, TE, Colorado (SR)
A.J. Klein, LB, Iowa State (EW)
E.J. Manuel, QB, Florida State (PRI)
Tyrann Mathieu, DB, LSU (PRI)
Dee Milliner, DB, Alabama (PRI)
Ryan Nassib, QB, Syracuse (PRI)
Will Pericak, DL, Colorado (EW)
Sheldon Richardson, DL, Missouri (PRI)
Logan Ryan, DB, Rutgers (PRI)
Matt Scott, QB, Arizona (PRI)
Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia (PRI)
Kenny Stills, WR, Oklahoma (PRI)
D.J. Swearinger, DB, South Carolina (PRI)
Carson Tinker, LS, Alabama (SR)
Cornelius Washington, DL, Georgia (SR)
Larry Warford, OL, Kentucky (PRI)
Earl Watford, OL, James Madison (EW)
Brian Winters, G, Kent State (COM)
SR - Senior Bowl meeting.
EW - East-West Shrine meeting.
COM - Combine meeting.
INT - Interested.
VINT - Very Interested.
PRO - Pro Day meeting.
PRI - Private Workout.
% - indicates more than one meeting.
# - indicates meeting set up outside of the 2013 Senior Bowl or the 2013 East-West Shrine Game
I fully expect our first rounder to be on there as teams almost always visit their first round choice. For example, last year the Browns met with Richardson, Weeden, JMJ, and Schwartz.
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Mel Kiper had a conference call where he stated that "Bacarri Rambo, Duke Williams, Don Jones, Earl Wolff and Rontez Miles among expected mid round targets of Browns. Kiper expected a run on Safetys in the 2nd round, as this years class isn't as deep as expected.
On the other hand, the depth for corners is much greater per Kipe, with B.W. Webb, Darius Slay, Johnny Adams, and Tyrann Mathieu as targets for round 3 or 4.
and here's some Logan Ryan from Rutgers highlights
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Warmack with trade for 6
Da'Rick Rogers with trade into 2nd
Tyler Bray at 3rd Round
Honey Badger or Logan Ryan in the 4th
Hawthorne in 5th
goodbye Joe Thomas it was great knowing you.
Honey Badger or Logan Ryan in the 4th
mathieu won't be there in the 4th.
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