Draft Thoughts 2013
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XxDaBuckeyexX said:
Another late guy to keep an eye on is Sam McGuffie.
Lol really? What has he been up to at Rice since transferring from U of M? He had his moments here as a freshman.
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He switched to slot reciever. Still runs a 4.4 but switched due to concussions. Had a pretty good year this year, but hes definitely a weapon, will be around late and maybe go undrafted depending on workouts.
XxDaBuckeyexX said:
He switched to slot reciever. Still runs a 4.4 but switched due to concussions. Had a pretty good year this year, but hes definitely a weapon, will be around late and maybe go undrafted depending on workouts.
Yeah he had like 3 his freshman year here
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Maybe the Rams get antsy with Bradford or fall in love with someone early and we can trade back for their two first rounders. Then we could grab two of the following these guys: Chance Warmack, Xavier Rhodes, Dion Jordon/Sam Montgomery. Then we can hope that Joseph Fauria at TE is around in the third. My only other draft opinion is that we should stay away from Jones in the first because spinal stenosis is a serious condition and a threat to his career.
Maybe the Rams get antsy with Bradford or fall in love with someone early and we can trade back for their two first rounders. Then we could grab two of the following these guys: Chance Warmack, Xavier Rhodes, Dion Jordon/Sam Montgomery. Then we can hope that Joseph Fauria at TE is around in the third. My only other draft opinion is that we should stay away from Jones in the first because spinal stenosis is a serious condition and a threat to his career.
I was just thinking that. If someone had 2 first rounders it might be worth thinking of trading with them for some depth of quality picks.
It looks like right now that the Rams have the #16 and something like #22-23.
Picking up both a Sam Montgomery and Chance Warmack sounds sweet.
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Right now, pre-combine, this year seems pretty clear cut (IMHO):
at #6 take : Jarvis Jones OLB, Damontre Moore OLB, Bjoern Werner OLB, or Dee Milliner CB
in that order, if they are available. Which at least one of them will. If not, trade down and try to take:
Barkevious Mingo OLB, Jonathan Banks CB, Matt Elam S, or Sam Montgomery OLB
Really, of all the projected first rounders so far, these are the guys we could use. With the switch to 3-4 appearing all but a foregone conclusion, it seems we will have to hit FA hard to add to our D, especially at LB, but we REALLY need help at FS and CB as well.
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I agree that our offense played worse than our D last year but with the combination of our offense having so much youth and our D losing starters to FA (more than likely) the pick will be defense, depending on what we do in FA it'll probably be OLB or CB. As for needing a QB, I agree we need better play from that position but Weeden, deservingly so, will get another year. The guy may be able to put it together with a new offense, and there are no clear cut upgrades available. As for all that trade stuff Ghoolie is spewing about, uhhh u have no idea what youre talking about.
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
The Browns need offensive weapons. It is far too early to predict the draft. A lot will depend on how active they are in free agency.
We need a QB, a FB, two WRs and a badass TE. Those are the most important and immediate needs.
The Browns played good enough on defense not to require a major overhaul there. LIkewise this team is not going to waste high picks for OL like we did with Joe "I can't move sideways" Thomas.
The Browns have listened to the Cleveland media and assholes like Doug Dieken for the past 13 years and it has produced a Pro Bowl offensive line and a thimble of wins.
Those days are over. The Browns need playmakers. Whether by draft, trade or FA, the focus must be on offensive playmakers.
The Browns just drafted just about everything you say they need last year: QB: Weeden,
2 WRs: Gordon/Benjamin, FB: Smelley. They picked up a WR and a TE the year before.
Sure, it would be nice to replace everything we have with Tom Brady, Jim Brown, Jerry Rice, Randy Moss, and Tony Gonzales
....but that ain't gonna happen. They are going to go with what they have. They cannot afford to do a wholesale change of their offensive skill players one year after they did a wholesale change of their offensive skill players.
They may try to pick up some of what you say in FA....but I think they are stuck to a large extent with what they got.
What they needed MOST was some decent coaching....hopefully THAT is the wholesale change that was required that will be successful.
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
I think the third round pick, with McCoy and Cribbs could get us another second round pick.
Perhaps the third, Cribbs and Joe Thomas could get us another 1st, but I doubt it.
I think Cribbs is set to be a FA....so that would mean they have no right to trade him, unless they sign him first.
And JT ain't going nowhere. If you think so then you have been smoking too much of your own sausage.
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How do you guys see Phil Taylor playing end?
How do you guys see Phil Taylor playing end?
I can see phil playing all 3 line positions if we switch to 3-4, that defense requires bigger linemen anyway 3 DT's essentially, you dont use your typical DE's in the 3-4
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Our offense showed some explosion and some big-play ability with 3 rookies playing the 3 most important skill positions. AND, that was with Shurmur calling the plays. They held their own pretty well until mid-way through the season when the defense completely collapsed and couldn't get off the field. They gave up way too many sustained drives, thus never allowing our offense to get into any type of rhythm.
The focus will be, and should be, on upgrading D at all positions, while bringing in some veteran leadership at the TE, WR, and QB positions. But, I don't see any major splash coming in at starting at any of those positions on offense except maybe TE.
And yes, Weeden gets another year. Stability is key, and he needs another year to improve or else we are setting ourselves back even longer. With Chud and Norv (hopefully that one doesn't fall through) Weeden, Richardson, Gordon, Little, Benjamin, Cameron, Hardesty, Cooper, are all some pretty darn-good weapons. I still think we need a veteran WR for leadership, and re-sign Watson or try and upgrade at TE in FA.
The first pick WILL be on Defense! UNLESS Chud really wants one of the lowly QBs in the draft (God I hope not)
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Really like the idea of taking a chance on the Honey Badger in a 4th, or 5th round as a nickleback. Keep him clean, motivated and he could probably surprise people. Kid always played with a bit of a chip on his shoulder
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Really like the idea of taking a chance on the Honey Badger in a 4th, or 5th round as a nickleback. Keep him clean, motivated and he could probably surprise people. Kid always played with a bit of a chip on his shoulder
@drinklikeamanbarklikeadawg said:
Really like the idea of taking a chance on the Honey Badger in a 4th, or 5th round as a nickleback. Keep him clean, motivated and he could probably surprise people. Kid always played with a bit of a chip on his shoulder
I always love bringing in bargain talent, BUT we already have Little and Gordon on this team with some character questions. They both seem to have been good risks, but how many of those type of guys can we afford to have in the same locker room before things start turning bad??
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XxDaBuckeyexX said:
Its not like anyone would value him at all in a trade anyways.
I don't think Cribbs can attract anybody at the moment because he proved to be an average-to-poor WR.
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