Connor Shaw

gftChris

@theksg said:

JunkYardDog "Besides the fact, that Shaw outperformed Manziel, and Teddy Twatwater in every catagory of the NFL combine."

I wanted to point out that this is false.

I used the top 15 QB performers of the 2014 NFL Combine as my population.

Combine results:

40yd Dash: Shaw - 4.36 sec, Manziel - 4.38 sec

Avg: 4.83 sec, Standard deviation: 0.14 sec

Placing Shaw and Manziel within the same standard deviation.

Very slight edge: Shaw

Vertical Jump: Shaw - 34", Manziel - 31.5"

Avg: 30.5", SD: 2.49"

Placing Shaw one SD ahead of Manziel

Edge: Shaw

Broad Jump: Shaw - 9' 8" (116"), Manziel - 9' 5" (113")

Avg: 110" (9'2"), SD: 4.23"

Placing Shaw one SD ahead of Manziel.

Edge: Shaw

Three Cone: Shaw - 7.07 sec, Manziel - 6.75 sec

Avg: 7.11 sec, SD: 0.21 sec

Placing Manziel in one SD ahead of Shaw.

Edge: Manziel

20yd Shuttle: Shaw - 4.33 sec, Manziel - 4.03 sec

Avg 4.25 sec, SD: 0.09 sec

Shaw is -1 on the SD scale and Manziel is greater than 2 on the +SD. The gap between is large.

Exceptionally Large Edge: Manziel

Tally: Shaw - 2 edges, 1 slight edge. Manziel - 1 edge, 1 very large edge

If you skew the data where the avg was the worst performer of the two (Shaw and Manziel) and kept the SD, Shaw and Manziel are within the same SD on 40yd Dash, Broad Jump and Shaw is barely one SD above Manziel on the Vertical.

Skewed Tally: Shaw - 2 slight edges, 1 very slight edge. Manziel - 1 edge, 1 very large edge.

Two Notes on the 20 yd shuttle:

1. The 20 yd Shuttle is the only time either one of the performers dropped below the Avg.

2. Manziel is the 2nd fastest QB since 2006 (Matt Scott, 2013, 3.99 sec), no info before 2006

P.S. Teddy Twatwater beat Shaw at the 20yd Shuttle (4.2 sec)

TLDR: Shaw did not outperform Manziel in the draft.

Are you sure about those 40 times? I was pretty sure that Manziel ran 4.68 and Shaw ran 4.66. Either way, points stands that they're about the same.

TheKSG

Thanks for pointing it out . I used the correct times for my dataset, yet I have no idea how I gave them both wrong 40 times.

cambridgeho

Dont rememeber, but does the Shanny Offense have the triple option in it.

The Gipper

I don't see where Chutzpah showed up in any of those measurements.

Gamecock Frog

http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/article-1/Connor-Shaw%E2%80%99s-first-week-as-a-Brown/0400a880-82dc-4f19-b245-3ebf4f74a368

D Bone

@gamecock-frog said:

http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/article-1/Connor-Shaw%E2%80%99s-first-week-as-a-Brown/0400a880-82dc-4f19-b245-3ebf4f74a368

Good read

MLD Woody

@the-gipper said:

Some Chic-fil-a somewhere down south just exploded.

Are you saying that the Chic-fil-A corporation doesn't condone the gay lifestyle? I don't know about that, but, the do make a good Chicken sandwich.

Fantastic sandwich

MLD Woody

@tour2ma said:
Funniest thing I've read here this year.

calfoxwc

He fits the character, the work ethic, the toughness..

he's a *football player* who loves the game.. super competitive...He's smart,

and was very successful.

Don't be surprised if he hangs on with the Browns as

an UDFA qb.

http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/article-1/Connor-Shaw%E2%80%99s-first-week-as-a-Brown/0400a880-82dc-4f19-b245-3ebf4f74a368

cambridgeho

Always liked the kid when I lived in the South watching his games. The kid has grit. He is obviously a work in progress, but like all players, this guy needs time to develope.

Tour2ma

It's easy, even preferable, to go with the QB depth of Hoyer/Manziel/Shaw now.

It'll get harder to go with such inexperience the closer we get to opening day.

LetsGetThiggyWithIt

The QB depth for week one 1 should be Manziel, Thigpen, and Shaw. Hoyer needs to be released.

DieHardBrownsFan

@letsgetthiggywithit said:
The QB depth for week one 1 should be Manziel, Thigpen, and Shaw. Hoyer needs to be released.

This isn't a comedy board.

D Bone

@letsgetthiggywithit said:
The QB depth for week one 1 should be Manziel, Thigpen, and Shaw. Hoyer needs to be released.

@diehardbrownsfan said:
This isn't a comedy board.

Or a most moronic thing said wins a prize board.

gftChris

@d-bone said:

Or a most moronic thing said wins a prize board.

We don't have enough prizes for that.

miktoxic

@letsgetthiggywithit said:
The QB depth for week one 1 should be Manziel, Thigpen, and Shaw. Hoyer needs to be released.

HAHA!!

@d-bone said:

Or a most moronic thing said wins a prize board.

HAHAHAHAHA!!!

@gftchris said:
We don't have enough prizes for that.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

gftChris

@miktoxic said:

HAHA!!

HAHAHAHAHA!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Well, mik finally snapped. It was bound to happen. Someone want to call social services?

LetsGetThiggyWithIt

thigga what? thigga who? thigga please...

DieHardBrownsFan

@gftchris said:
Well, mik finally snapped. It was bound to happen. Someone want to call social services?

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA.

WTL

Reading this board I can't help but wonder...

How can you guys be so optimistic about a about a guy who had -250 yards in rushing in college, who is 6 years older and coming off knee surgery? I guess the objective is to never have second chance plays? Being mobile is one thing, being a concrete footed statue is another.

I don't see the logic here. Investing in a old statue that isn't worth a 5th round draft pick in a trade isn't smart, but I guess he's your anti- Manziel horse. Ok. Good luck with that.