F Brian "Garbage" Hoyer
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can someone just get rid of stockton already?
his constant yammering about the same thing over and over again is like getting hit in the head with a hammer (over and over).
and walter you're a bitch. all you need is a little buddy to edge you on and you turn 180 degrees in 0.1 seconds. make up your fucking mind and stick to your convictions you flip-flopping fuck.
and walter you're a bitch. all you need is a little buddy to edge you on and you turn 180 degrees in 0.1 seconds. make up your fucking mind and stick to your convictions you flip-flopping fuck.
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No but he did over throw by 10 yards a WIDE OPEN Jordan Cameron that would have made it 10-0.
He did under throw a WIDE OPEN Taylor Gabriel that would have given us a TD instead of punting.
Hoyer played like shit last week and he even admitted himself, sure the rest of the team was garbage but Brian wasn't any better.
Stop sucking his dick and just call it as you see it.
So who did play well last week??? Longsnapper??? Placeholder?? Kicker???
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makes sense you would put up an animated gif of robert downey jr. when he was smoking crack like you smoke cock.
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Damn. Just when Ghoolie starts coming around we have Stockton and Walter taking over for the old Ghoolie and Rich routine. Just STFU already..
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^this.
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No quarterback, not Manning, Brady, Breesy, Rodgers, Newton, Rivers, Wilson, Luck or that fat ass in Pittsburgh would be successful with every possession being 3rd and long. None. Not a god damn one.
As the ground game goes, so will he offense. Want to know what will happen with JM playing and the Oline not opening running lanes? It'll probably be worse than what you're seeing with Hoyer. If you think otherwise, then you're just a fucking stooge. I really won't bother qualifying it in any other terms. Get to learn football, there's a reason the run game and pass game are complimentary.
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No quarterback, not Manning, Brady, Breesy, Rodgers, Newton, Rivers, Wilson, Luck or that fat ass in Pittsburgh would be successful with every possession being 3rd and long. None. Not a god damn one.
As the ground game goes, so will he offense. Want to know what will happen with JM playing and the Oline not opening running lanes? It'll probably be worse than what you're seeing with Hoyer. If you think otherwise, then you're just a fucking stooge. I really won't bother qualifying it in any other terms. Get to learn football, there's a reason the run game and pass game are complimentary.
Hoyers had some good throws today. Some bad ones where's he's been bailed out.No quarterback, not Manning, Brady, Breesy, Rodgers, Newton, Rivers, Wilson, Luck or that fat ass in Pittsburgh would be successful with every possession being 3rd and long. None. Not a god damn one.
As the ground game goes, so will he offense. Want to know what will happen with JM playing and the Oline not opening running lanes? It'll probably be worse than what you're seeing with Hoyer. If you think otherwise, then you're just a fucking stooge. I really won't bother qualifying it in any other terms. Get to learn football, there's a reason the run game and pass game are complimentary.
But we're consistent with last week, we can't run the ball or offer the same type of production even with the McDonald/Greco combo.
If Mack's the reason we should pay the man more than everybody.
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Hoyers had some good throws today. Some bad ones where's he's been bailed out.No quarterback, not Manning, Brady, Breesy, Rodgers, Newton, Rivers, Wilson, Luck or that fat ass in Pittsburgh would be successful with every possession being 3rd and long. None. Not a god damn one.
As the ground game goes, so will he offense. Want to know what will happen with JM playing and the Oline not opening running lanes? It'll probably be worse than what you're seeing with Hoyer. If you think otherwise, then you're just a fucking stooge. I really won't bother qualifying it in any other terms. Get to learn football, there's a reason the run game and pass game are complimentary.
But we're consistent with last week, we can't run the ball or offer the same type of production even with the McDonald/Greco combo.
If Mack's the reason we should pay the man more than everybody.
Hoyers had some good throws today. Some bad ones where's he's been bailed out.
But we're consistent with last week, we can't run the ball or offer the same type of production even with the McDonald/Greco combo.
If Mack's the reason we should pay the man more than everybody.
mack might not even come back close to what he was. sign him yes, but also NOW WE KNOW that you have to have serious depth at the OL position.
DUH.
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Hoyers had some good throws today. Some bad ones where's he's been bailed out.
But we're consistent with last week, we can't run the ball or offer the same type of production even with the McDonald/Greco combo.
If Mack's the reason we should pay the man more than everybody.
mack might not even come back close to what he was. sign him yes, but also NOW WE KNOW that you have to have serious depth at the OL position.
DUH.
mack might not even come back close to what he was. sign him yes, but also NOW WE KNOW that you have to have serious depth at the OL position.
DUH.
But is our depth THAT bad? Top 5 rush offense to bottom 5 with a backup center?
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Bring in JFF>
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No matter the system, when teams play the run by stacking the box numbers will go down. The verdict is clearly out for the Browns offense that stopping the run is key.
That will work until we get Gordon back. Once we can stretch the field and the other team's defense cannot stack the box we will see a much more explosive offense.
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In all seriousness though what's the verdict from everyone about Hoyer today? There's no doubt he played better today, but the stat line is sneaky IMO. It's impossible to deny he got away with 4-5 throws today that better teams would have intercepted. BUT he did make some good plays when it mattered.
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Hoyer is what he is, a game manager, and that's not a knock. There are only about 10 guys in the NFL that are game changers so he's in the majority.
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What was it, over 100 yards YAC today? Kept it short.
Teams are loading up on the run because they don't think Hoyer can beat them deep. Oakland was one of the worst pass defenses in the league, giving up a huge rating and Hoyer got a huge rating himself without having to much of anything.
He had 3 passes that hit defenders in the hands and they dropped, the one before half was a Pick 6 and the guy was running without securing it. We had 9 points going into the 4th and scored the two TDs off of Raiders turnovers with a short field.
Keep telling me everything is ok, but you all know its not. Just watching the game and looking at the physical abilities between the two today, you can't tell me Carr isn't the more talented QB in his 7th start then Hoyer in his 7th year. Thats were Brian Hoyer is at, and we're talking about long term contract? Please.
If this was against Buffalo or better we lose. We got away with it because it was Oakland and they turned the ball over. Only gives you more chance to deny deny deny reality and keep us wishing for a playoff birth that isn't coming and wasting time starting the future. Thats all thats happening here is wasting time starting our future. Not contenders, not going to make the playoffs, just twiddling our thumbs, trying our hardest to lower our draft pick and wasting time getting the future going. Like a college kid that graduates and hangs in his college town an extra year and works at a bar.
Hoyer is a Miller High Life in a Champaign League. Remember who told you first. -
In all seriousness though what's the verdict from everyone about Hoyer today? There's no doubt he played better today, but the stat line is sneaky IMO. It's impossible to deny he got away with 4-5 throws today that better teams would have intercepted. BUT he did make some good plays when it mattered.
In all seriousness though what's the verdict from everyone about Hoyer today? There's no doubt he played better today, but the stat line is sneaky IMO. It's impossible to deny he got away with 4-5 throws today that better teams would have intercepted. BUT he did make some good plays when it mattered.
He got lucky on a few that's for sure, but he's still gonna be our starter and overall he played good.
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What was it, over 100 yards YAC today? Kept it short.
Teams are loading up on the run because they don't think Hoyer can beat them deep. Oakland was one of the worst pass defenses in the league, giving up a huge rating and Hoyer got a huge rating himself without having to much of anything.
He had 3 passes that hit defenders in the hands and they dropped, the one before half was a Pick 6 and the guy was running without securing it. We had 9 points going into the 4th and scored the two TDs off of Raiders turnovers with a short field.
Keep telling me everything is ok, but you all know its not. Just watching the game and looking at the physical abilities between the two today, you can't tell me Carr isn't the more talented QB in his 7th start then Hoyer in his 7th year. Thats were Brian Hoyer is at, and we're talking about long term contract? Please.
If this was against Buffalo or better we lose. We got away with it because it was Oakland and they turned the ball over. Only gives you more chance to deny deny deny reality and keep us wishing for a playoff birth that isn't coming and wasting time starting the future. Thats all thats happening here is wasting time starting our future. Not contenders, not going to make the playoffs, just twiddling our thumbs, trying our hardest to lower our draft pick and wasting time getting the future going. Like a college kid that graduates and hangs in his college town an extra year and works at a bar.
Hoyer is a Miller High Life in a Champaign League. Remember who told you first.What was it, over 100 yards YAC today? Kept it short.
Teams are loading up on the run because they don't think Hoyer can beat them deep. Oakland was one of the worst pass defenses in the league, giving up a huge rating and Hoyer got a huge rating himself without having to much of anything.
He had 3 passes that hit defenders in the hands and they dropped, the one before half was a Pick 6 and the guy was running without securing it. We had 9 points going into the 4th and scored the two TDs off of Raiders turnovers with a short field.
Keep telling me everything is ok, but you all know its not. Just watching the game and looking at the physical abilities between the two today, you can't tell me Carr isn't the more talented QB in his 7th start then Hoyer in his 7th year. Thats were Brian Hoyer is at, and we're talking about long term contract? Please.
If this was against Buffalo or better we lose. We got away with it because it was Oakland and they turned the ball over. Only gives you more chance to deny deny deny reality and keep us wishing for a playoff birth that isn't coming and wasting time starting the future. Thats all thats happening here is wasting time starting our future. Not contenders, not going to make the playoffs, just twiddling our thumbs, trying our hardest to lower our draft pick and wasting time getting the future going. Like a college kid that graduates and hangs in his college town an extra year and works at a bar.
Hoyer is a Miller High Life in a Champaign League. Remember who told you first.
Nevermind that the only two vertical threats you have on this team, one his suspended the other oft injured.
Beyond that, your post is re-hashed bullshit. "starting our future" Manziel? You want a rookie, playing behind an Oline trying to gel again, with few weapons, an ineffective run game, to see what the "future looks like"...?
You're a fucking hack, kid. I honestly wish there was an alternative universe where you could watch Manziel play with this same team just so you can realize the difference would be negligible.
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What was it, over 100 yards YAC today? Kept it short.
Teams are loading up on the run because they don't think Hoyer can beat them deep. Oakland was one of the worst pass defenses in the league, giving up a huge rating and Hoyer got a huge rating himself without having to much of anything.
He had 3 passes that hit defenders in the hands and they dropped, the one before half was a Pick 6 and the guy was running without securing it. We had 9 points going into the 4th and scored the two TDs off of Raiders turnovers with a short field.
Keep telling me everything is ok, but you all know its not. Just watching the game and looking at the physical abilities between the two today, you can't tell me Carr isn't the more talented QB in his 7th start then Hoyer in his 7th year. Thats were Brian Hoyer is at, and we're talking about long term contract? Please.
If this was against Buffalo or better we lose. We got away with it because it was Oakland and they turned the ball over. Only gives you more chance to deny deny deny reality and keep us wishing for a playoff birth that isn't coming and wasting time starting the future. Thats all thats happening here is wasting time starting our future. Not contenders, not going to make the playoffs, just twiddling our thumbs, trying our hardest to lower our draft pick and wasting time getting the future going. Like a college kid that graduates and hangs in his college town an extra year and works at a bar.
Hoyer is a Miller High Life in a Champaign League. Remember who told you first.What was it, over 100 yards YAC today? Kept it short.
Teams are loading up on the run because they don't think Hoyer can beat them deep. Oakland was one of the worst pass defenses in the league, giving up a huge rating and Hoyer got a huge rating himself without having to much of anything.
He had 3 passes that hit defenders in the hands and they dropped, the one before half was a Pick 6 and the guy was running without securing it. We had 9 points going into the 4th and scored the two TDs off of Raiders turnovers with a short field.
Keep telling me everything is ok, but you all know its not. Just watching the game and looking at the physical abilities between the two today, you can't tell me Carr isn't the more talented QB in his 7th start then Hoyer in his 7th year. Thats were Brian Hoyer is at, and we're talking about long term contract? Please.
If this was against Buffalo or better we lose. We got away with it because it was Oakland and they turned the ball over. Only gives you more chance to deny deny deny reality and keep us wishing for a playoff birth that isn't coming and wasting time starting the future. Thats all thats happening here is wasting time starting our future. Not contenders, not going to make the playoffs, just twiddling our thumbs, trying our hardest to lower our draft pick and wasting time getting the future going. Like a college kid that graduates and hangs in his college town an extra year and works at a bar.
Hoyer is a Miller High Life in a Champaign League. Remember who told you first.
I hate to agree with you but I do. Hoyer is a good guy, I like him, but I don't think he has the physical tools to be anything more than a game manager. I thought he was supposed to be more accurate than he's been lately and that concerns me. He needs to be able to make things happen when the run game isn't working. Still, I'd rather roll with him than put Manziel in before he is ready. He did enough for us to win but really its the defense that won this game for us. Haden and Gilbert gave us a glimpse of our next Dixon and Minnifield.
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What was it, over 100 yards YAC today? Kept it short.
Teams are loading up on the run because they don't think Hoyer can beat them deep. Oakland was one of the worst pass defenses in the league, giving up a huge rating and Hoyer got a huge rating himself without having to much of anything.
He had 3 passes that hit defenders in the hands and they dropped, the one before half was a Pick 6 and the guy was running without securing it. We had 9 points going into the 4th and scored the two TDs off of Raiders turnovers with a short field.
Keep telling me everything is ok, but you all know its not. Just watching the game and looking at the physical abilities between the two today, you can't tell me Carr isn't the more talented QB in his 7th start then Hoyer in his 7th year. Thats were Brian Hoyer is at, and we're talking about long term contract? Please.
If this was against Buffalo or better we lose. We got away with it because it was Oakland and they turned the ball over. Only gives you more chance to deny deny deny reality and keep us wishing for a playoff birth that isn't coming and wasting time starting the future. Thats all thats happening here is wasting time starting our future. Not contenders, not going to make the playoffs, just twiddling our thumbs, trying our hardest to lower our draft pick and wasting time getting the future going. Like a college kid that graduates and hangs in his college town an extra year and works at a bar.
Hoyer is a Miller High Life in a Champaign League. Remember who told you first.What was it, over 100 yards YAC today? Kept it short.
Teams are loading up on the run because they don't think Hoyer can beat them deep. Oakland was one of the worst pass defenses in the league, giving up a huge rating and Hoyer got a huge rating himself without having to much of anything.
He had 3 passes that hit defenders in the hands and they dropped, the one before half was a Pick 6 and the guy was running without securing it. We had 9 points going into the 4th and scored the two TDs off of Raiders turnovers with a short field.
Keep telling me everything is ok, but you all know its not. Just watching the game and looking at the physical abilities between the two today, you can't tell me Carr isn't the more talented QB in his 7th start then Hoyer in his 7th year. Thats were Brian Hoyer is at, and we're talking about long term contract? Please.
If this was against Buffalo or better we lose. We got away with it because it was Oakland and they turned the ball over. Only gives you more chance to deny deny deny reality and keep us wishing for a playoff birth that isn't coming and wasting time starting the future. Thats all thats happening here is wasting time starting our future. Not contenders, not going to make the playoffs, just twiddling our thumbs, trying our hardest to lower our draft pick and wasting time getting the future going. Like a college kid that graduates and hangs in his college town an extra year and works at a bar.
Hoyer is a Miller High Life in a Champaign League. Remember who told you first.
OL is hurting, it will take time for a new C to adjust as well as the other OL adjusting to him.
Yep, Carr is no slouch, and for a while was rumored to be one of the top prospects in this past Draft - now you can see why.
The real difference between Hoyer and Carr this game is that Carr actually had a pretty decent run game going for him - plus he had very good Pass protection for the most part.
I saw our OL on more than one occasion just collapse on Hoyer, and quite a few other instances where they where in the process of collapsing before Hoyer got rid of the ball.
We had no Rushing game to speak of, and Hoyer was under pressure.
Overall, I think he did fairly well - not exceptional, but good.
Today's win was a total Team win.
It wasn't the O just outscoring the opponent, it took both sides (and a little Special Teams help) to win this one - maybe a little more D than O, but the D was supposed to be stellar (which they've not been).
Playoffs?
No freakin' way.
Coming into this one, I stated elsewhere I doubted this game, and it nearly went that way.
Next week I think will be as tough or tougher than this week - TB is a better Team than you think.
Hoyer wasn't the problem today.
We had 39 freakin' yards of Rushing today.
This screams OL problems at the very least.
Possible INT's?
Sure, they were there.
Also a few others for Carr that weren't pulled in - happens to most Teams every week.
How about the dropped passes?
WTF was that first pass to Cameron - it honestly looks like he caught it then intentionally threw it away?
On the plus side, we have another week to bring our new C up to speed.
I don't think that's going to be enough, but hopefully at least some progress will be made.
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