F Brian "Garbage" Hoyer

hx214

@cbus-brownie said:
Disagree there, he was for sure. Wish we got Bortles in the draft.

3 picks

159 yards

QB rating 39.6

With the third overall pick in the draft....

No thanks.

bbedward

@hx214 said:

3 picks

159 yards

QB rating 39.6

With the third overall pick in the draft....

No thanks.

Yea I'm not sure what Cbus saw. Bortles really tried to give us the game. The first pick may or may not have been his fault. Second one was an awful decision. He missed a guy wide open in the end zone today. Didn't see the third pick so i can't comment on that.

nickers

@bbedward said:
Yea I'm not sure what Cbus saw. Bortles really tried to give us the game. The first pick may or may not have been his fault. Second one was an awful decision. He missed a guy wide open in the end zone today. Didn't see the third pick so i can't comment on that.

Yes,I really don't see the comparison to Ben R except body type,maybe... Otherwise.. He looks raw. Ben didn't make those kind of mistakes his rookie season.

BaconHound

Ok. I just watched the post game press conference on Browns.com. Fuck Hoyer. Mentions the "tipped" interception, where the ball was completely behind Tate and the ball "that was just a little too high even for Cameron". We needed Herm Edwards, "hello Brian you played like a fucking bum. There was no one with 5 yards of Cameron, hello you fucking stunk so own it". It wasn't Jacksonville's world class D it was a shit effort by the entire offense, I fucking hate it when pros don't own their shit, more than happy to celebrate their wins though.

ReginaBrownsFan

@baconhound said:
Hoyer is neither as good as many want him to be or as bad as many make him out to be.

x2

DownSouthKC

The only thing I'll say (aside from Hoyer is still the guy) is that all these play actions/bootlegs we do are set up for Manziel to excel in.

tiamat63

@nickers said:
Yes,I really don't see the comparison to Ben R except body type,maybe... Otherwise.. He looks raw. Ben didn't make those kind of mistakes his rookie season.

Ben wasn't asked to throw much his rookie season and was surrounded with a far more competent team.

bbedward

@downsouthkc said:
The only thing I'll say (aside from Hoyer is still the guy) is that all these play actions/bootlegs we do are set up for Manziel to excel in.

I'd agree that manziel could excel in this scheme, but the PA and boot legs seem to be where hoyas excelled the most

Also, Bortles had a terrible game today. I bet Jags fans aren't calling for his head.

Clevfan4life

Bortles looked alright for a rook. Kid has promise. But yeah any middle of the road defense shuts him and the Jags down today. I just give up trying to explain why we can't stop the run. This loss was by FAR not all on Hoyer. Please STFU anybody that's calling for Hoyer to be replaced. Just shit the bed today...whole team did except for the secondary.

jcam222

@walterwhite said:

We got the best QB in the draft...

. Man you flop back and forth on this a LOT! One bad game and your back blowing Johnny

Tour2ma

@tiamat63 said:
Ben wasn't asked to throw much his rookie season and was surrounded with a far more competent team.

Yup... and that team included a strong run game...

Their run to pass ratio was not quite 2:1, but approached it. Still he threw 17 TDs, but also 11 INTs.

hoorta

@clevfan4life said:
Bortles looked alright for a rook. Kid has promise. But yeah any middle of the road defense shuts him and the Jags down today. I just give up trying to explain why we can't stop the run. This loss was by FAR not all on Hoyer. Please STFU anybody that's calling for Hoyer to be replaced. Just shit the bed today...whole team did except for the secondary.

You ever think Rubin and Taylor didn't play today? That was a true team stinker.

Vagitron

@hx214 said:

3 picks

159 yards

QB rating 39.6

With the third overall pick in the draft....

No thanks.

He's a rookie on a pretty bad offensive team.

miktoxic

@jcam222 said:
. Man you flop back and forth on this a LOT! One bad game and your back blowing Johnny

walter is rob assuranuses' campaign manager for gov of NY.

flippin burgers and floppin like a soccer mom.

RoyceRolls

@jcam222 said:
. Man you flop back and forth on this a LOT! One bad game and your back blowing Johnny

To be fair, I don't see how saying "we got the best QB in the draft" can be seen as a knock on hoyer. Hoyer wasn't drafted this year.

It is possible for someone to like both Hoyer and Manziel....

b86b

Hoyer the last two weeks 24/58 41% 432 yrds 1td 1int. He's trending in the wrong direction

LBC mike

A qb's best friend is a running game and ours didn't help

djdawg2010

The loss was a team effort. From the coaching staff on down. Bad calls, horrible game management.

jim_brown

16 for 41 with an interception, if he's lucky he gets one more week to turn things around....over all he hasn't been terrible...just mediocre, which is pretty much what he's been his entire career....my guess is manziel is ready at this point and we'd be wise to see what he can do......there's no guarantees, but my guess is that he would do better than that...two field goals against a louzy team that gives up 3 interceptions....that's pathetic....

tml1138

Bortles has thrown more than one interception just about every game he's started. He's raw and Browns should've won by taking full advantage of that.

Anyone calling for Hoyer's head: you'd better just be venting over this shitty loss and get back with it for next week.