F Brian "Garbage" Hoyer

jim_brown

@tml1138 said:

Too soon. That would only mix things up and mentally screw the team even worse.

too soon..??...we're 6 games into the season and have 3 losses......if you're generous, you give hoyer one more chance to turn his performance around.....if he screws the pooch yet again, i gotta believe the coaches will decide to give manziel a chance.....

Westside Steve

@diehardbrownsfan said:
So if Oakland beats us, is that soon enough? Or do we wait for the next week?

I'm hard pressed to put the entire blame on Brian Hoyer's shoulders.

But I like to see any quarterback get a good and fair look. As a rookie johnny is going have his own growing pains just like the great Blake bortles is. Then the Boo birds will be screaming for Connor Shaw.

WSS

PurplePantyWaste

Flacco has had worse games.

Even Peyton had had 4+ interception games.

Too soon to give up on him.

I was more shocked by your defense

miktoxic

yep. a lot of venting going on after that embarrassing loss. but looking back in retrospect there were plenty of other teams, with more of a thoroughbred bloodline of late getting smoked.

hopefully this is a stepping stone in the maturation of a backup QB becoming a starter and a DC becoming a head coach.

Tour2ma

@diehardbrownsfan said:
So if Oakland beats us, is that soon enough? Or do we wait for the next week?

Just wrote in another thread that if the Raider game starts out looking like the 5th and 6th Qtrs of the JAX game, then make the change and see what happens.

D Bone

Well T, looks like I picked a good game to miss.............. On a side note, my daughters team finished 2nd, losing in double OT 0-6. She played 6 full games in 24hrs, only missing 5 total plays.............. Crazy!

Tour2ma

Welcome back to hell, D...

We all blame you...

NorthFloridaDawg

Hoyer had one awful game... he's better than he played on Sunday. He may not be the story that ESPN and others were trying to turn him into this week (the second coming of Kurt Warner led sportscenter a lot this week), but he's not as bad as he looked Sunday. It is true, however, that Bortles was the worst QB on the field Sunday. He had one impressive drive where he led the Jags down field for a score (after the Browns should have kicked a field goal to make it a two score game). I think Bortles has some potential, but to say that the Browns should've drafted him?? This season he has 5 TD, 10 picks, and two fumbles. QBR of 35. I'll pass on that guy with the third pick.

miktoxic

well a lot think watkins is a hall of famer and we should have never have drafted a CB. (they're wrong of course).

LogicIsForSquares

If the Oakland game is ugly like that, then I would say that putting Manziel in there wouldn't be a bad call.

miktoxic

@logicisforsquares said:
If the Oakland game is ugly like that, then I would say that putting Manziel in there wouldn't be a bad call.

agree.

the problem is the way we looked beating pittsburgh has set us up for nothing but winning great or being the 'same old browns'.

jacksonville played us like we were the super bowl champs and came in and talked shit about their mothers or something. you don't think that jacksonville win yesterday gives oakland hope? i guarantee you they come out and play their best game next week. whether or not the browns can stop another hot jock rookie QB who is in his zone is something that needs to be seen.

there will be a huge amount of dissentment if we lose next week. i don't know if it'll be right or wrong but it WILL happen if the browns can't pull up their pants after the fucking they took yesterday.

bbedward

@jim_brown said:
too soon..??...we're 6 games into the season and have 3 losses......if you're generous, you give hoyer one more chance to turn his performance around.....if he screws the pooch yet again, i gotta believe the coaches will decide to give manziel a chance.....

Did you expect better than .500 going into game 6? If so how much better?

Please explain how you can pin the loss to Pittsburgh and Baltimore on Hoyer? Or how Hoyer was the only factor in the loss yesterday.

WalterWhite

The Pittsburgh and Baltimore loss were totally on the defense.

Yesterday, Brian was a hot pile of garbage and if he hits Cameron/and or Gabriel, then we are in business and the entire complexion of the game changes.

It should have been 17-0 or 13-0 but instead we go into the half down 7-6

You can't keep going 3 and out, 3 and out, 3 and out

If the offensive line is going to be this suspect, no way Hoyer makes it though the season.

#2 needs to be ready when called upon.

brownie12

this was actually Hoyer's 2nd bad game in a row. He now has the worst completion % in the league. Only 1 full time starter has thrown less TD passes and he has one less game played. and Hoyer has the nerve to say get rid of Manziel or I wont come back..

NorthFloridaDawg

@brownie12 said:
this was actually Hoyer's 2nd bad game in a row. He now has the worst completion % in the league. Only 1 full time starter has thrown less TD passes and he has one less game played. and Hoyer has the nerve to say get rid of Manziel or I wont come back..

I agree that he hasn't done near enough to start making demands in terms of what the front office needs to do personnel wise. But if you are going to do things like that during the week, you better not shit the bed on Sunday.

cvcanedy

It was confirmed this wasn't said.

@brownie12 said:
this was actually Hoyer's 2nd bad game in a row. He now has the worst completion % in the league. Only 1 full time starter has thrown less TD passes and he has one less game played. and Hoyer has the nerve to say get rid of Manziel or I wont come back..

Tour2ma

@everlastingxxx said:
I just imagine how good this team would be with Manziel at the helm. Pettine is an idiot if he doesnt make the switch soon before its too late.

lol... thanks for dropping by to cheer us up...

How good with Manziel... classic...

LogicIsForSquares

@tour2ma said:

lol... thanks for dropping by to cheer us up...

How good with Manziel... classic...

If Manziel were at the helm we would get a Super Bowl victory, maybe even an honorary Grey Cup win.

hx214

@everlastingxxx said:

I havent posted much, been basking in my Cowboys glory. They have been kicking ass this season, in case you didnt notice, lol.

Anyways, i did watch the Browns game on NFL Rewind. Hoyer was garbage. Looks like the same type of bad throws he made during training camp. NFL QBs dont miss that TD throw in the endzone. Browns had no business losing that game. That one was on Hoyer.

I just imagine how good this team would be with Manziel at the helm. Pettine is an idiot if he doesnt make the switch soon before its too late.

Cowboys? Manziel?

Who gives a fuck?

miktoxic

@everlastingxxx said:

I havent posted much, been basking in my Cowboys glory. They have been kicking ass this season, in case you didnt notice, lol.

Anyways, i did watch the Browns game on NFL Rewind. Hoyer was garbage. Looks like the same type of bad throws he made during training camp. NFL QBs dont miss that TD throw in the endzone. Browns had no business losing that game. That one was on Hoyer.

I just imagine how good this team would be with Manziel at the helm. Pettine is an idiot if he doesnt make the switch soon before its too late.

or you just couldn't show your face since hoyer and the browns were winning.

now that there is a little bit of a question about hoyer all the manziel queefs come running back through the door to stir up more shite.