JF has 200 more starts for the browns....
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Of course in subsequent starts JF will score points and throw for over 100 yards. It's one game. If he lit it up Sunday you guys would be overreacting in the other direction. Just chill out and watch him progress over time.
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He will score points and throw for over 100 yards?
Well that is hard to come by. Good use of a first rounder.
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Zombo said:
He will score points and throw for over 100 yards?
Well that is hard to come by. Good use of a first rounder.
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Doesn't matter what he does, he has 3 years starting no matter what, is that right?
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Of course in subsequent starts JF will score points and throw for over 100 yards. It's one game. If he lit it up Sunday you guys would be overreacting in the other direction. Just chill out and watch him progress over time.
If he lit it up Sunday you guys would be overreacting in the other direction. Just chill out and watch him progress over time.
How about you just realize he's Johnny Fucking Football. The most hyped and talked about superstar freaking college player EVER!!!
This is the first time he's played. It was the biggest game in the nation. EVERYBODY IS GONNA TALK ABOUT IT - A LOT!!!
Media, fans, haters, lovers, coaches, players will ALL FUCKING ANALYZE IT TO DEATH....figure it out you dolt
We've been discussing "potential" for 8 months now. Time to evaluate REAL game play. This is the first one. He sucked. End of story. Next week should be better. Well see. Then we will discuss again. See how that goes?
If you dont want to discuss him, get the fuck out. But stop with the smug bullshit and realize we gonna discuss and we can only discuss what we saw and all we saw was crap...get it?....
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Sure I enjoy discussing it too. And he did play poorly. But again, it's one game. Ridiculous after one start to draw any conclusions about his career. You can start to formulate that kind of stuff this time next year
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Aggie Douchebag Johnny Dicksuckers have exhausted a lot of the patience for him around here
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Who is making excuses for JF? I think everyone agrees he didn't play well Sunday. The difference is some are keeping it in perspective(that it was just one start and 18 throws) and others act like one start proves he will be a bum.
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Numerous quarterbacks, including Troy Aikman, were shut out their first game. Who throws in the towel after one game? If that were the case they should fire West and Crowell every time they fumble.
we'll see how he compares to those other QBs when every nfl show on tv compares their 'first 3 starts'.
how much he's at the bottom of the list?
manziel looked like the 'make a wish' kid on family guy.
manziel looked like the 'make a wish' kid on family guy.
LMFAO... Johnny "Make-a-wish" Manziel???
I haven't been over in the Minnesota, Jville, oakland forums, but do they trash their rookie starters after a very bad performance? Or do they understand it's a slow process and it's going to take lots of time?
Here's an idea...
You could go to each of the forums of the teams you mention.
Spend a month... maybe 6-weeks... on each to be sure you have their pulse well in hand.
Then you can report back to us.
And be aware there may be more than one forum for each team...
See you in June, 2015?
Happy holidays!
Go Browns...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
manziel looked like the 'make a wish' kid on family guy.
LMFAO... Johnny "Make-a-wish" Manziel???
I haven't been over in the Minnesota, Jville, oakland forums, but do they trash their rookie starters after a very bad performance? Or do they understand it's a slow process and it's going to take lots of time?
Here's an idea...
You could go to each of the forums of the teams you mention.
Spend a month... maybe 6-weeks... on each to be sure you have their pulse well in hand.
Then you can report back to us.
And be aware there may be more than one forum for each team...
See you in June, 2015?
Happy holidays!
Go Browns...
LMFAO... Johnny "Make-a-wish" Manziel???
you have to see the cartoon. i'm thinking it was family guy because it was so F'd up.
"little johnny dying of whatever get's his wish starting as QB for the (ok we'll say the browns)!" and all they did was show clips of a little kid in a uniform getting hiked the ball and these huge ginormous players from the other team just came in and piled on top of him. it was hilarious and remeinded me a lot of manziel vs. the bengals.
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JF will almost certainly get a lot better his first full offseason as the starter. Going through preseason workouts, minicamp sessions, etc is going to help him a lot going into 2015
JF will almost certainly get a lot better his first full offseason as the starter. Going through preseason workouts, minicamp sessions, etc is going to help him a lot going into 2015
yeah like he did this previous offseason etc.
do we need to show you the swan pool float pics, the pics with gronk while hoyer was at the training facility. i remember a twitter pic that manziel shared while in vegas and it was the cover of the browns playbook. like "no i'm not out here having fun, i'm studying the playbook while the whole floor is full of college girls."
it was funny then and a lot of our manziel fans got on a lot of our cases for pointing that out and thought it was funny...................
not to many laughs coming this way now NOR is there a lot of chatter from the JF fanboy crew. just a couple who've stayed to take the heat. 2 outta 100 ain't bad i guess.
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I think this is ridiculous to be so short leashed with a rookie quarterback we were sucking the dick of 7 days ago.
The stereotype of browns fans is the impatience and delusion.
You guys want to draft another fucking quarterback? Instead of giving him another season? I would lose my mind if we did that.
i also want the Browns to win obviously.
In any fucking way they can. Let Manziel get time.
If they truly DONT want him there, that's a different story
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JF will almost certainly get a lot better his first full offseason as the starter. Going through preseason workouts, minicamp sessions, etc is going to help him a lot going into 2015
JF will almost certainly get a lot better his first full offseason as the starter. Going through preseason workouts, minicamp sessions, etc is going to help him a lot going into 2015
Fuck you nimrod.
Shove a ladle full of minicamp up your ass.
"Almost certainly get a lot better." That's like saying nothing, except with words.
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Who is making excuses for JF? I think everyone agrees he didn't play well Sunday. The difference is some are keeping it in perspective(that it was just one start and 18 throws) and others act like one start proves he will be a bum.
Who is making excuses for JF? I think everyone agrees he didn't play well Sunday. The difference is some are keeping it in perspective(that it was just one start and 18 throws) and others act like one start proves he will be a bum.
Can we trade this guy for Stockton? Seriously?
At least he was a Browns fan. In his wierd little anti-Hoyer way.
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The loser already admitted to John lynch he didn't prepare well enough. He's already physically behind the ball. Now mentally he's way behind too.
Duse reminds me of a midget jamarcus Russell, without the physical gifts. Lazy and doesbt have the smarts.
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I think this is ridiculous to be so short leashed with a rookie quarterback we were sucking the dick of 7 days ago.
The stereotype of browns fans is the impatience and delusion.
You guys want to draft another fucking quarterback? Instead of giving him another season? I would lose my mind if we did that.
i also want the Browns to win obviously.
In any fucking way they can. Let Manziel get time.
If they truly DONT want him there, that's a different story
Instead of giving him another season?
"Give" is an interesting word choice, however, the your application is dead wrong.
Rookies earn time through "giving" effort for which they also happen to be paid.
Three starts have fallen to Johnny. He'll have to earn any beyond that.
The loser already admitted to John lynch he didn't prepare well enough. He's already physically behind the ball. Now mentally he's way behind too.
Duse reminds me of a midget jamarcus Russell, without the physical gifts. Lazy and doesbt have the smarts.
Bit premature at best...
The Lynch comments are open to interpretation.
The smarts seem to be there; it's their application that is wanting.
Johnny had success doing things his way for 2 years at A&M and 2 before that in HS. Sunday... not so much. It's his reaction to last Sunday, the next two and this off-season that will determine his immediate future.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Instead of giving him another season?
"Give" is an interesting word choice, however, the your application is dead wrong.
Rookies earn time through "giving" effort for which they also happen to be paid.
Three starts have fallen to Johnny. He'll have to earn any beyond that.
The loser already admitted to John lynch he didn't prepare well enough. He's already physically behind the ball. Now mentally he's way behind too.
Duse reminds me of a midget jamarcus Russell, without the physical gifts. Lazy and doesbt have the smarts.
Bit premature at best...
The Lynch comments are open to interpretation.
The smarts seem to be there; it's their application that is wanting.
Johnny had success doing things his way for 2 years at A&M and 2 before that in HS. Sunday... not so much. It's his reaction to last Sunday, the next two and this off-season that will determine his immediate future.
"Give" is an interesting word choice, however, the your application is dead wrong.
Rookies earn time through "giving" effort for which they also happen to be paid.
Three starts have fallen to Johnny. He'll have to earn any beyond that.
Bit premature at best...
The Lynch comments are open to interpretation.
The smarts seem to be there; it's their application that is wanting.
Johnny had success doing things his way for 2 years at A&M and 2 before that in HS. Sunday... not so much. It's his reaction to last Sunday, the next two and this off-season that will determine his immediate future.
comments along the lines of he's not preparing like manning or preping as hard as he could really aren't that subjective.
Premature? Yes, but i've been known to be premature about a lot of things (just ask the ladies... ok that was lame). Accurate? After one game.. Yes! Who knows after two or three or ten. I really don't care, just want to win. And i'd prefer to win without a snot nosed kid who brings a legion of mentally challenged fans.
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Jesus...again with the fucking Troy Aikman comparison. Aikman wasn't a midget who came from a stupid college system. I remember Aikmans first start...and you know what he did in that game, despite struggling the entire game, he also made some throws and plays that made you think, this dude is going to be good someday.Point to one play that Manziel made on Sunday that made you go wow...he's going to be a player in this league.
Lol. Troy Aikman.
6'4, rocket arm, right out of franchise QB central casting.
We have an elf that falls down if you grab a string on his jersey.
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Zombo said:
Lol. Troy Aikman.
6'4, rocket arm, right out of franchise QB central casting.
We have an elf that falls down if you grab a string on his jersey.
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I think this is ridiculous to be so short leashed with a rookie quarterback we were sucking the dick of 7 days ago.
The stereotype of browns fans is the impatience and delusion.
You guys want to draft another fucking quarterback? Instead of giving him another season? I would lose my mind if we did that.
i also want the Browns to win obviously.
In any fucking way they can. Let Manziel get time.
If they truly DONT want him there, that's a different story
I think this is ridiculous to be so short leashed with a rookie quarterback we were sucking the dick of 7 days ago.
The stereotype of browns fans is the impatience and delusion.
You guys want to draft another fucking quarterback? Instead of giving him another season? I would lose my mind if we did that.
i also want the Browns to win obviously.
In any fucking way they can. Let Manziel get time.
If they truly DONT want him there, that's a different story
Nothing wrong with cutting your losses early and have a backup plan.
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I think this is ridiculous to be so short leashed with a rookie quarterback we were sucking the dick of 7 days ago.
The stereotype of browns fans is the impatience and delusion.
You guys want to draft another fucking quarterback? Instead of giving him another season? I would lose my mind if we did that.
i also want the Browns to win obviously.
In any fucking way they can. Let Manziel get time.
If they truly DONT want him there, that's a different story
I think this is ridiculous to be so short leashed with a rookie quarterback we were sucking the dick of 7 days ago.
The stereotype of browns fans is the impatience and delusion.
You guys want to draft another fucking quarterback? Instead of giving him another season? I would lose my mind if we did that.
i also want the Browns to win obviously.
In any fucking way they can. Let Manziel get time.
If they truly DONT want him there, that's a different story
Maybe you, not I. I had a great little text I sent to a friend before the game. "Ready for the blood bath?" and I didn't mean it in a positive way for the Browns.
No, I don't want to draft another QB in the first 3-4 rounds. I'd like to build the team and walk into the off-season with the QB's we have. Let them decide who will
be the starter through competition. Not really as hard as it sounds.
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