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Former Bucs GM preferes Mariota over Winston at #1

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  • T TexasAg1969 wrote on
    #19

    Winston has far better character than JM. He only semi-rapes, steals crab legs and yells "Fuck you in the pussy" in school cafeterias, whereas JM takes his buddies out drinking too often. 😛

  • T TexasAg1969

    Winston has far better character than JM. He only semi-rapes, steals crab legs and yells "Fuck you in the pussy" in school cafeterias, whereas JM takes his buddies out drinking too often. 😛

    Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on
    #20

    @texasag1969 said:

    Winston has far better character than JM. He only semi-rapes, steals crab legs and yells "Fuck you in the pussy" in school cafeterias, whereas JM takes his buddies out drinking too often. 😛

    And sucks at football.

    I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride
  • Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out

    @texasag1969 said:

    Winston has far better character than JM. He only semi-rapes, steals crab legs and yells "Fuck you in the pussy" in school cafeterias, whereas JM takes his buddies out drinking too often. 😛

    And sucks at football.

    ManzierM Manzier wrote on
    #21

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    And sucks at football.

    thats the key

    lets be honest, if Johnny could play well NO ONE would care about anything else.....

    same goes with Winston.....if he plays good, everything goes away. If he sucks, then it's because he has character flaws.

  • ManzierM Manzier

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    And sucks at football.

    thats the key

    lets be honest, if Johnny could play well NO ONE would care about anything else.....

    same goes with Winston.....if he plays good, everything goes away. If he sucks, then it's because he has character flaws.

    W Westside Steve wrote on
    #22

    @manzier said:

    thats the key

    lets be honest, if Johnny could play well NO ONE would care about anything else.....

    same goes with Winston.....if he plays good, everything goes away. If he sucks, then it's because he has character flaws.

    Nah I think shoplifting some crab legs is a college prank kind of thing. Raping a chick and then being a loud mouth punk about it is something you can't really shine on. I guess there are some Baltimore Ravens fans that give Ray Rice A boys will be boys pass but...

    WSS

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  • W Westside Steve

    @manzier said:

    thats the key

    lets be honest, if Johnny could play well NO ONE would care about anything else.....

    same goes with Winston.....if he plays good, everything goes away. If he sucks, then it's because he has character flaws.

    Nah I think shoplifting some crab legs is a college prank kind of thing. Raping a chick and then being a loud mouth punk about it is something you can't really shine on. I guess there are some Baltimore Ravens fans that give Ray Rice A boys will be boys pass but...

    WSS

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #23

    @westside-steve said:

    Nah I think shoplifting some crab legs is a college prank kind of thing. Raping a chick and then being a loud mouth punk about it is something you can't really shine on.

    I don't see the alleged rape and the yelling incident being related.

    But agree on the crab legs... something akin to the "grocery shopping" scene in Animal House.

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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @westside-steve said:

    Nah I think shoplifting some crab legs is a college prank kind of thing. Raping a chick and then being a loud mouth punk about it is something you can't really shine on.

    I don't see the alleged rape and the yelling incident being related.

    But agree on the crab legs... something akin to the "grocery shopping" scene in Animal House.

    W Westside Steve wrote on
    #24

    @tour2ma said:

    I don't see the alleged rape and the yelling incident being related.

    But agree on the crab legs... something akin to the "grocery shopping" scene in Animal House.

    Exactly what I was thinking about. So you think after the alleged rape the comments in the cafeteria were okay? Or not related? Or what?

    WSS

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  • W Westside Steve

    @tour2ma said:

    I don't see the alleged rape and the yelling incident being related.

    But agree on the crab legs... something akin to the "grocery shopping" scene in Animal House.

    Exactly what I was thinking about. So you think after the alleged rape the comments in the cafeteria were okay? Or not related? Or what?

    WSS

    Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on
    #25

    @westside-steve said:

    Exactly what I was thinking about. So you think after the alleged rape the comments in the cafeteria were okay? Or not related? Or what?

    WSS

    It was a popular internet meme at the time. Not related at all.

    I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride
  • OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on
    #26

    I thought another red flag with Winston was in the Oregon game when it looked like he was arguing with his coach and the coach telling him to calm down or he would sit him on the bench (or words to that effect).

    Maybe it is no big deal but for me just adding to his other issues.

  • OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan

    I thought another red flag with Winston was in the Oregon game when it looked like he was arguing with his coach and the coach telling him to calm down or he would sit him on the bench (or words to that effect).

    Maybe it is no big deal but for me just adding to his other issues.

    Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on
    #27

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    I thought another red flag with Winston was in the Oregon game when it looked like he was arguing with his coach and the coach telling him to calm down or he would sit him on the bench (or words to that effect).

    Maybe it is no big deal but for me just adding to his other issues.

    See, I thought that was referencing his erratic play that game.

    I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride
  • OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on
    #28

    "It's a small piece of the evaluation," Senior Bowl executive director and former Cleveland Browns general manager Phil Savage told USA TODAY Sports in a text. "They (Winston and Fisher) go at it like that every day in practice and games.

    Probably not a big deal. Just something hard not to see when the national cameras are spotlighting you.

  • OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan

    "It's a small piece of the evaluation," Senior Bowl executive director and former Cleveland Browns general manager Phil Savage told USA TODAY Sports in a text. "They (Winston and Fisher) go at it like that every day in practice and games.

    Probably not a big deal. Just something hard not to see when the national cameras are spotlighting you.

    Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on
    #29

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    "It's a small piece of the evaluation," Senior Bowl executive director and former Cleveland Browns general manager Phil Savage told USA TODAY Sports in a text. "They (Winston and Fisher) go at it like that every day in practice and games.

    Probably not a big deal. Just something hard not to see when the national cameras are spotlighting you.

    To a certain extent, I kind of like it. It's better than always saying "yes, coach". Friction creates fire. I think its about time we had a little fire from a QB.

    I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride
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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #30

    Maybe that's what JM was going for...

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  • Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out

    @bob806 said:

    Lol...maybe that's why he is the "former" GM.

    I think Winston will have a better career if he screws his head on straight.

    He's the former GM because he couldn't get along with Greg Schiano and that entire franchise essentially blew up because of it.

    He may have drafted Freeman, but he also drafted Gerald McCoy, Adrian Clayborn, Da'Quan Bowers, Mark Barron, Doug Martin, Lavonte David and signed Jamon Meredith, Carl Nicks, Vincent Jackson. He seems to follow the exact strategy that many on here are harping about - build from the interior.

    The fact that the Bucs couldn't win with the amount of talent they had is not an indictment of Dominik, its proof that you can build both lines and add solid defensive talent, but it's all for naught if you have a dumpster-fire quarterback situation.

    As for Winston, I agree. I think his off the field problems are less of concern than Manziel's by far. I also think Mariota is destined for mediocrity.

    Bob806B Bob806 wrote on
    #31

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    He's the former GM because he couldn't get along with Greg Schiano and that entire franchise essentially blew up because of it.

    He may have drafted Freeman, but he also drafted Gerald McCoy, Adrian Clayborn, Da'Quan Bowers, Mark Barron, Doug Martin, Lavonte David and signed Jamon Meredith, Carl Nicks, Vincent Jackson. He seems to follow the exact strategy that many on here are harping about - build from the interior.

    The fact that the Bucs couldn't win with the amount of talent they had is not an indictment of Dominik, its proof that you can build both lines and add solid defensive talent, but it's all for naught if you have a dumpster-fire quarterback situation.

    As for Winston, I agree. I think his off the field problems are less of concern than Manziel's by far. I also think Mariota is destined for mediocrity.

    Yeah, the Bucs have had some talent. I didn't realize he was the GM that put most of that together.

    Karlis Missed
  • Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    "It's a small piece of the evaluation," Senior Bowl executive director and former Cleveland Browns general manager Phil Savage told USA TODAY Sports in a text. "They (Winston and Fisher) go at it like that every day in practice and games.

    Probably not a big deal. Just something hard not to see when the national cameras are spotlighting you.

    To a certain extent, I kind of like it. It's better than always saying "yes, coach". Friction creates fire. I think its about time we had a little fire from a QB.

    OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on
    #32

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    To a certain extent, I kind of like it. It's better than always saying "yes, coach". Friction creates fire. I think its about time we had a little fire from a QB.

    I like both quarterbacks. If I had to choose between the two I would take Winston. I like the work ethic and having a "boring" quarterback like Mariota who doesn't give any ammunition to TMZ. My concern is the hurry up type offense Mariota played with Oregon. Someone posted about the "it" factor of quarterbacks, the intangibles. I see that a lot with Winston with the number of games he led Florida State to come from behind victories this past season. The ability to lead a team to come from behind victories is a huge "it" factor with me. To work under pressure and come through.

  • OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    To a certain extent, I kind of like it. It's better than always saying "yes, coach". Friction creates fire. I think its about time we had a little fire from a QB.

    I like both quarterbacks. If I had to choose between the two I would take Winston. I like the work ethic and having a "boring" quarterback like Mariota who doesn't give any ammunition to TMZ. My concern is the hurry up type offense Mariota played with Oregon. Someone posted about the "it" factor of quarterbacks, the intangibles. I see that a lot with Winston with the number of games he led Florida State to come from behind victories this past season. The ability to lead a team to come from behind victories is a huge "it" factor with me. To work under pressure and come through.

    Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on
    #33

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    I like both quarterbacks. If I had to choose between the two I would take Winston. I like the work ethic and having a "boring" quarterback like Mariota who doesn't give any ammunition to TMZ. My concern is the hurry up type offense Mariota played with Oregon. Someone posted about the "it" factor of quarterbacks, the intangibles. I see that a lot with Winston with the number of games he led Florida State to come from behind victories this past season. The ability to lead a team to come from behind victories is a huge "it" factor with me. To work under pressure and come through.

    Same for me.

    I'd rather take the guy who has had to win games on his own rather than the guy who has always had the competitive advantage.

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  • R RoyceRolls wrote on
    #34

    Search "fuck her right in the pussy" on YouTube, I'll wait.

    Oh, you're back? Did you see literally hundreds of people trolling news anchors on location by screaming "fuck her right in the pussy" on LIVE broadcast?

    Winston didn't say anything to thousands of viewers on live television.

    He got "caught" because he's famous, famous for being a good QB....

    If you found out your cable guy screamed "fuck her right in the pussy" would you switch to dish?

  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    kinda Fd up that that is how most nfl personnel thought about manziel last year before the draft and we still handed in the ticket with his name on it.

    i'd take mariota over winston all day long. winston is freeman all over again. i'd compare mariota to more a kaepernik without the moxy.

    LumberghL Lumbergh wrote on
    #35

    @miktoxic said:

    i'd compare mariota to more a kaepernik without the moxy.

    And without the strong arm. He's a weaker armed version of kaepernik.

  • Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    I like both quarterbacks. If I had to choose between the two I would take Winston. I like the work ethic and having a "boring" quarterback like Mariota who doesn't give any ammunition to TMZ. My concern is the hurry up type offense Mariota played with Oregon. Someone posted about the "it" factor of quarterbacks, the intangibles. I see that a lot with Winston with the number of games he led Florida State to come from behind victories this past season. The ability to lead a team to come from behind victories is a huge "it" factor with me. To work under pressure and come through.

    Same for me.

    I'd rather take the guy who has had to win games on his own rather than the guy who has always had the competitive advantage.

    W Westside Steve wrote on
    #36

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Same for me.

    I'd rather take the guy who has had to win games on his own rather than the guy who has always had the competitive advantage.

    Like..........

    .....

    Johnny.

    WSS

    www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons
  • C Clevfan4life wrote on
    #37

    are some of you guys really on board with mortgaging a draft we desperately need, and possibly some of next years too...to get a skinny read option qb with a just slightly above avg arm? Is nobody feeling any deja vu?

  • C Clevfan4life

    are some of you guys really on board with mortgaging a draft we desperately need, and possibly some of next years too...to get a skinny read option qb with a just slightly above avg arm? Is nobody feeling any deja vu?

    MudflyM Mudfly wrote on
    #38

    @clevfan4life said:

    are some of you guys really on board with mortgaging a draft we desperately need, and possibly some of next years too...to get a skinny read option qb

    Im not on board.....at all..................zee roe!

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