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  • Wasn't this essentially a Trent for Johnny Rehab trade?

    I'd call it a wash at this point

  • The Browns past three years first round picks:

    Trent Richardson

    Brandon Weeden

    Barkevious Mingo

    Justin Gilbert

    Johnny Manziel

    And people wonder why the team can't turn the corner.

    @jrb12711 said:

    The Browns past three years first round picks:

    Trent Richardson

    Brandon Weeden

    Barkevious Mingo

    Justin Gilbert

    Johnny Manziel

    And people wonder why the team can't turn the corner.

    And to think it only took 3gms, 3 presidents, and 2 owners to come up with this list. Quite impressive

  • AxeA Axe

    Wasn't this essentially a Trent for Johnny Rehab trade?

    I'd call it a wash at this point

    @axe said:

    Wasn't this essentially a Trent for Johnny Rehab trade?

    I'd call it a wash at this point

    A wash in a poop filled sink

  • The Browns past three years first round picks:

    Trent Richardson

    Brandon Weeden

    Barkevious Mingo

    Justin Gilbert

    Johnny Manziel

    And people wonder why the team can't turn the corner.

    @jrb12711 said:

    The Browns past three years first round picks:

    Trent Richardson

    Brandon Weeden

    Barkevious Mingo

    Justin Gilbert

    Johnny Manziel

    And people wonder why the team can't turn the corner.

    good lord...the fa's are just as bad......worse fa aquistion ever...willis mcghee...i can name about 10 more but i just ate breakfast and like to keep it down...

  • I've read various Cowboys rumors

    @cvcanedy said:

    I've read various Cowboys rumors

    So? The Cowboys want both Browns flops from the 2012 first round, eh?

  • The Browns past three years first round picks:

    Trent Richardson

    Brandon Weeden

    Barkevious Mingo

    Justin Gilbert

    Johnny Manziel

    And people wonder why the team can't turn the corner.

    @jrb12711 said:

    The Browns past three years first round picks:

    Trent Richardson

    Brandon Weeden

    Barkevious Mingo

    Justin Gilbert

    Johnny Manziel

    And people wonder why the team can't turn the corner.

    Sounds about right. You can't blow that many 1st round picks and not have a deletorious effect on your team.

  • LOL What the shit, did I just read?

  • @jrb12711 said:

    The Browns past three years first round picks:

    Trent Richardson

    Brandon Weeden

    Barkevious Mingo

    Justin Gilbert

    Johnny Manziel

    And people wonder why the team can't turn the corner.

    And to think it only took 3gms, 3 presidents, and 2 owners to come up with this list. Quite impressive

    @cdl15 said:

    And to think it only took 3gms, 3 presidents, and 2 owners to come up with this list. Quite impressive

    This thread has potential.

  • Old news, old FOs...

    The potential, yes, potential, 1st round misses in 2014 are hovering, but everything else the FO did in 2014's draft and FA was damn good.

    This year the disappointed decry our reluctance to shell out money hand over fist. Many are likely the same folks that said Haslam order the drafting of JM so he could sell jerseys. Where they see reluctance I see fiscal restraint.

    And McGahee was an emergency signing in late Septmeber. Not a lot of prime, FA RBs waiting by the phone in late Sept. So there's that...

  • the turd continues to circle the drain. Poetic Gizz, do you still have your trich fathead posted in your granny's basement?

  • Since Indy signed Cole they have a glut of OLB'ers. One of them's getting cut, my guess is Werner since he got healthy scratched from the Patriots game. He didn't have a great pass rushing season but if I read right him and Walden were both in the upper echelon of run stoppers at their position. We need another big Jack back to spell Kruger. I loved that kid in College, he was a "beast" DE at FS. If the Browns put 10 or so pounds back on him and made him more of a hybrid end where he got to put his hands down more....he could very productive for us. He has one of the best snap reactions in all of football, just needs to keep polishing his pass rush tech. But run stopping was a major weakness of his so if he's figured that out then he's not an absolute liability on the field anymore...like Kruger was at Blt and look how Krugs stops the run now.

  • I can't stand it! This is way better than television! Did you see him play against the Browns? He just stood there and let Luck get sacked.

  • He's really awful. I'll be surprised if he is in an NFL camp. He should just cash in and make pornos.

    Z

  • The Browns past three years first round picks:

    Trent Richardson

    Brandon Weeden

    Barkevious Mingo

    Justin Gilbert

    Johnny Manziel

    And people wonder why the team can't turn the corner.

    @jrb12711 said:

    The Browns past three years first round picks:

    Trent Richardson

    Brandon Weeden

    Barkevious Mingo

    Justin Gilbert

    Johnny Manziel

    And people wonder why the team can't turn the corner.

    Not just the first round, count up how many players are actually left from those drafts.

  • Jim Brown got it wrong.. He's less than ordinary!

  • I remember when Jim Brown initially said it, there was an outcry against him. Turned out he was being generous to him by calling him ordinary.

  • for people to even entertain the thought of him coming back here is beyond me.

  • Old news, old FOs...

    The potential, yes, potential, 1st round misses in 2014 are hovering, but everything else the FO did in 2014's draft and FA was damn good.

    This year the disappointed decry our reluctance to shell out money hand over fist. Many are likely the same folks that said Haslam order the drafting of JM so he could sell jerseys. Where they see reluctance I see fiscal restraint.

    And McGahee was an emergency signing in late Septmeber. Not a lot of prime, FA RBs waiting by the phone in late Sept. So there's that...

    @tour2ma said:

    Old news, old FOs...

    The potential, yes, potential, 1st round misses in 2014 are hovering, but everything else the FO did in 2014's draft and FA was damn good.

    This year the disappointed decry our reluctance to shell out money hand over fist. Many are likely the same folks that said Haslam order the drafting of JM so he could sell jerseys. Where they see reluctance I see fiscal restraint.

    And McGahee was an emergency signing in late Septmeber. Not a lot of prime, FA RBs waiting by the phone in late Sept. So there's that...

    Yeah, I don't disagree there. The team has seemingly had good luck with later round picks, but the point is you can't miss that badly in the first round especially when you got more than one pick. Thinking about the 2012 first round draft is straight up pathetic. We could have thrown darts at a board and gotten better players.

  • Trent signing with Oakland lol, of course, who else. . .

  • Signing with Raiders