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Would you trade our two first round picks for Philip Rivers?

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  • ColumbusKingC ColumbusKing

    @adoug319 said:

    He still has 3 or 4 years left. He's honestly underrated and the Chargers are not that good. He's the most passionate QB in the league, is like Dez Bryant almost too emotional in terms of wanting to win.

    You are right about hi being passionate, his "Mic'ed up" segments are so cool. But I guess I was referencing when he had in his prime Antonio Gates and LaDainan Tomlinson and they still didn't get much done

    A Adoug319 wrote on
    #15

    @columbusking said:

    You are right about hi being passionate, his "Mic'ed up" segments are so cool. But I guess I was referencing when he had in his prime Antonio Gates and LaDainan Tomlinson and they still didn't get much done

    I admit I don't know much about the Chargers, and perhaps he underachieved back then. But what he did 2 seasons ago was special. He was on fire and willed his team to the playoffs. Last year wasnt bad either

    31 TDs

    18 INTs

    4,286 Yds

    93.8 Rating

    hoortaH 1 Reply
  • W wargograw wrote on
    #16

    Isn't he about a top 8 QB? In response to an above poster, if we were only a QB away, I would definitely take him. And lots of people seem to think we basically are (of course no one's ever really just one player away but we're about as close as you get).

  • W wargograw

    Isn't he about a top 8 QB? In response to an above poster, if we were only a QB away, I would definitely take him. And lots of people seem to think we basically are (of course no one's ever really just one player away but we're about as close as you get).

    A Adoug319 wrote on
    #17

    @wargograw said:

    Isn't he about a top 8 QB? In response to an above poster, if we were only a QB away, I would definitely take him. And lots of people seem to think we basically are (of course no one's ever really just one player away but we're about as close as you get).

    He was ranked 10th in QBR last season., one spot ahead of Andrew Luck. So Top 10.

    An QB is the one position that can mask inadequacies. Just look at Luck with the Colts.

    W 1 Reply
  • S SkippinTurtles wrote on
    #18

    Carson Palmer went to the Raiders in a similar deal. That trade ended up being a bust. Even Joe Montana couldn't get the Chiefs to the promise land. Rivers has most likely peaked and hasn't won anything. Philip with his average arm playing in bad weather. Pass. No, run from this deal.

  • miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on
    #19

    love phillip rivers and his game....passion for the game.

    first 2 rounders? no. a 4th round pick and a player/pick to be named later.........hell the f yeah.

  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    love phillip rivers and his game....passion for the game.

    first 2 rounders? no. a 4th round pick and a player/pick to be named later.........hell the f yeah.

    A Adoug319 wrote on
    #20

    @miktoxic said:

    love phillip rivers and his game....passion for the game.

    first 2 rounders? no. a 4th round pick and a player/pick to be named later.........hell the f yeah.

    Yeah man 2 first rounders is pricey... But if we get the man here, we're a playoff team

  • A Adoug319

    @columbusking said:

    You are right about hi being passionate, his "Mic'ed up" segments are so cool. But I guess I was referencing when he had in his prime Antonio Gates and LaDainan Tomlinson and they still didn't get much done

    I admit I don't know much about the Chargers, and perhaps he underachieved back then. But what he did 2 seasons ago was special. He was on fire and willed his team to the playoffs. Last year wasnt bad either

    31 TDs

    18 INTs

    4,286 Yds

    93.8 Rating

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on
    #21

    @adoug319 said:

    I admit I don't know much about the Chargers, and perhaps he underachieved back then. But what he did 2 seasons ago was special. He was on fire and willed his team to the playoffs. Last year wasnt bad either

    31 TDs

    18 INTs

    4,286 Yds

    93.8 Rating

    If Brian Hoyer had put up numbers like that he would have been voted Mayor.

    👍
  • Opal312O Opal312

    The stupid rumors always involve the Browns one way or another. A CBS sports analyst has the Browns trading their 12, 43 and fifth round to Redskins for Mariota. That just doesn't make sense to mortgage the future on a rookie unproven and another past his prime. Even if all the Browns needed was a QB, I would still say no. Since last year we have lost TJ Ward, Skrine, Sheard, Cameron and Rubin not to mention Josh Gordon. Shouldn't the front office replace the players we have lost and build on the young talent we retained?

    Rivers would never agree to a deal with Cleveland thank God. He's not happy about the Chargers potential move to L.A. And would opt out in favor of playing on a team closer to his home. So that's how the rumor started with a potential mock trade with San Diego and Tenessee.

    gftChrisG gftChris wrote on
    #22

    @opal312 said:

    Since last year we have lost TJ Ward, Skrine, Sheard, Cameron and Rubin not to mention Josh Gordon. Shouldn't the front office replace the players we have lost and build on the young talent we retained?

    Ward - Whitner

    Skrine - Williams

    Sheard - ? High draft priority

    Cameron - ? Draft, most likely

    Rubin - Starks

    Quit whining and look at what's happened.

  • A Adoug319

    @wargograw said:

    Isn't he about a top 8 QB? In response to an above poster, if we were only a QB away, I would definitely take him. And lots of people seem to think we basically are (of course no one's ever really just one player away but we're about as close as you get).

    He was ranked 10th in QBR last season., one spot ahead of Andrew Luck. So Top 10.

    An QB is the one position that can mask inadequacies. Just look at Luck with the Colts.

    W wargograw wrote on
    #23

    @adoug319 said:

    He was ranked 10th in QBR last season., one spot ahead of Andrew Luck. So Top 10.

    An QB is the one position that can mask inadequacies. Just look at Luck with the Colts.

    The year before, he was 2nd behind only Peyton Manning who was performing football miracles that season.

    Then again, QBR doesn't tell the whole story, unless of course you think Romo was the best QB in the league last season.

  • C calfoxwc wrote on
    #24

    Quit whining and look at what's happened. Chris

    ********************************************************

    Josh Gordon happened. Manziel happened.

    Quit whining, and look what happened. Phil Taylor gets hurt and look what happened.

    Trading our first two picks away for a 33 yr old qb who will be retiring in the near future?

    Not buying it, even for a plug nickel.

    gftChrisG 1 Reply
  • L LondonBrown wrote on
    #25

    Yes because this draft class isn't great, our pick at 19 could have well been a late second rounder last year.

  • C calfoxwc

    Quit whining and look at what's happened. Chris

    ********************************************************

    Josh Gordon happened. Manziel happened.

    Quit whining, and look what happened. Phil Taylor gets hurt and look what happened.

    Trading our first two picks away for a 33 yr old qb who will be retiring in the near future?

    Not buying it, even for a plug nickel.

    gftChrisG gftChris wrote on
    #26

    @calfoxwc said:

    Quit whining and look at what's happened. Chris

    ********************************************************

    Josh Gordon happened. Manziel happened.

    Quit whining, and look what happened. Phil Taylor gets hurt and look what happened.

    Trading our first two picks away for a 33 yr old qb who will be retiring in the near future?

    Not buying it, even for a plug nickel.

    Not saying we should go for Rivers - I would do it for one, but not both - but complaining about needing to replace players we've lost, when most of them *have* been replaced is stupid.

    Canton DawgC 1 Reply
  • gumby73G gumby73 wrote on
    #27

    Till the moving truck shows up, another non story. Right Art Moe..

    Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends
  • C calfoxwc wrote on
    #28

    or, not true.... Depends on which postion you draft at 19.

    The rbs, offensive linemen, edge rushers, defensive tackles,
    inside linebackers in 2015 are better than 2014. Cornerbacks
    are even.
    And it isn't just 19 - it was both first round picks. Two players the Browns need vs
    a 33 yrd old qb from San Diego...I think that's absurd - just my opinion.
    The Browns need major improvements to their roster to build a winner, they aren't that far
    away. They don't need what amounts to a "last piece of the puzzle".
  • W wargograw

    I don't feel educated enough to answer. But those of you saying no, why?

    LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on
    #29

    @wargograw said:

    I don't feel educated enough to answer. But those of you saying no, why?

    Old guy who has openly said he would only like to play in the south if he had to leave San Diego. On top of that, you get 2-3 years at most out of him.

  • MudflyM Mudfly wrote on
    #30

    Id say yes IF we were just a QB away from the Super Bowl......gotta strike while the iron is hot......

    But, we aren't there yet, so my answer is NO......

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  • Z Zombo wrote on
    #31

    Yes. With a contract extension.

    Zombo

  • OsirisO Osiris wrote on
    #32

    I'd think about it for #19 if a contract extension is involved. However, I've heard from a San Diego writer that Rivers would sooner retire than leave San Diego. He's got plenty of money, four kids, and doesn't want to put them through a relocation. It sounds like he's fairly ingrained in his community.

    "I said, 'I need someone who's going to want to get on the roller coaster with me knowing that it's not always going to be fun,'" -Paul DePodesta
    Mark OM 1 Reply
  • jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on
    #33

    Agree with some others here-I'd GLADLY give up #19 and a 4th-5th if it came with a contract extension. Phil may be 33 but he's still a top 10 QB in the NFL. Hell if he gave us 3 years of solid QB play that would be better than any frikin first round QB we've drafted. For a one year rental though-no way.

  • hx214H hx214 wrote on
    #34

    I would rather get Rivers then trade both to move up for Mariota. So if Rivers is plan A and Mariota is plan B. I'm 120% for plan A.

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