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  • C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
    #43

    With all of the Redskins needs, I don't see them trading out. They have legit chance of nailing a franchise player in Fowler, Shelton, Beasley...all guys that fit their 3-4.

  • miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
    #44

    well all news today on the redskins front is they floated the story out there for any GM that they are willing to trade out of the 5th.

    the griffin trade left their team decimated. the new GM wants to rebuild and needs more picks to do that.

    this is another ply by a GM to let everyone know that they will accept a deal but they prob want what they gave up to get griffin and in no way if i were a GM would i do that unless the other team is desperate for a player there. i don't see the browns as that team.

  • well all news today on the redskins front is they floated the story out there for any GM that they are willing to trade out of the 5th.

    the griffin trade left their team decimated. the new GM wants to rebuild and needs more picks to do that.

    this is another ply by a GM to let everyone know that they will accept a deal but they prob want what they gave up to get griffin and in no way if i were a GM would i do that unless the other team is desperate for a player there. i don't see the browns as that team.

    Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
    #45

    @miktoxic said:

    well all news today on the redskins front is they floated the story out there for any GM that they are willing to trade out of the 5th.

    the griffin trade left their team decimated. the new GM wants to rebuild and needs more picks to do that.

    this is another ply by a GM to let everyone know that they will accept a deal but they prob want what they gave up to get griffin and in no way if i were a GM would i do that unless the other team is desperate for a player there. i don't see the browns as that team.

    If we weren't 100% on Mariota, I'd give up Manziel, #12, #19 and #76 (total=2285) for RG3, #5 and #37 (total = 2230 points).

    Then I'd turn around and sell #5, #108 and a 2016 second to SD for their #17, #49 (1778) and a 2016 first round pick. (1360 points + future first round pick).

    Then we'd have #17, #37, #44, #49, two 2016 first round picks and RG3 instead of #12, #19, and #44 and Manziel.

    We could get a solid DT, a solid WR, a solid OL, and a solid LB with our first four picks, give RG3 one season and then go for Cardale if we need to.

    The scenarios are only going to get worse the closer we get to Thursday.

  • W wargograw wrote on last edited by
    #46

    Couch, that's good stuff.

  • @hoorta said:

    Please, they may want Mariota- but IMHO the asking price is going to be way too high. Dealing with the Titans, it's going to be both firsts this year, plus a first next year. Shades of RG III- barf.

    If you read the reports (and believe them) they already declined to send both 1sts and this year's 2nd. So, why would they add another 1st rounder to do it... I'm hoping the Titans take somebody other than Mariota so then we can get him at a better value.

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by hoorta
    #47

    @thenew23 said:

    If you read the reports (and believe them) they already declined to send both 1sts and this year's 2nd. So, why would they add another 1st rounder to do it... I'm hoping the Titans take somebody other than Mariota so then we can get him at a better value.

    We have no idea what was offered- if anything. I doubt any reporting service does either. Pre draft smoke.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    If we weren't 100% on Mariota, I'd give up Manziel, #12, #19 and #76 (total=2285) for RG3, #5 and #37 (total = 2230 points).

    Then I'd turn around and sell #5, #108 and a 2016 second to SD for their #17, #49 (1778) and a 2016 first round pick. (1360 points + future first round pick).

    Then we'd have #17, #37, #44, #49, two 2016 first round picks and RG3 instead of #12, #19, and #44 and Manziel.

    We could get a solid DT, a solid WR, a solid OL, and a solid LB with our first four picks, give RG3 one season and then go for Cardale if we need to.

    The scenarios are only going to get worse the closer we get to Thursday.

    You must have enjoyed Draft Day. I don't have the energy anymore to dream up scenarios that have about a 1% chance of happening.

  • 7 7moses7 wrote on last edited by
    #48

    trade down pick up extra picks and still come away with 2 starters in the first round.

  • gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
    #49

    Mik: Believe every line but that last one if Mariota still on Board.. Couch: Don't believe JF on a rookie contract is going anywhere, Should not have seen the field last season.. 7moses: Picks next season great, would love to see 6-7 Solid Quality picks out of Draft, most of those targets we have enough to move up..

  • @thenew23 said:

    If you read the reports (and believe them) they already declined to send both 1sts and this year's 2nd. So, why would they add another 1st rounder to do it... I'm hoping the Titans take somebody other than Mariota so then we can get him at a better value.

    We have no idea what was offered- if anything. I doubt any reporting service does either. Pre draft smoke.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    If we weren't 100% on Mariota, I'd give up Manziel, #12, #19 and #76 (total=2285) for RG3, #5 and #37 (total = 2230 points).

    Then I'd turn around and sell #5, #108 and a 2016 second to SD for their #17, #49 (1778) and a 2016 first round pick. (1360 points + future first round pick).

    Then we'd have #17, #37, #44, #49, two 2016 first round picks and RG3 instead of #12, #19, and #44 and Manziel.

    We could get a solid DT, a solid WR, a solid OL, and a solid LB with our first four picks, give RG3 one season and then go for Cardale if we need to.

    The scenarios are only going to get worse the closer we get to Thursday.

    You must have enjoyed Draft Day. I don't have the energy anymore to dream up scenarios that have about a 1% chance of happening.

    Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
    #50

    @hoorta said:

    We have no idea what was offered- if anything. I doubt any reporting service does either. Pre draft smoke.

    You must have enjoyed Draft Day. I don't have the energy anymore to dream up scenarios that have about a 1% chance of happening.

    I'd say less than 1%.

  • @hoorta said:

    We have no idea what was offered- if anything. I doubt any reporting service does either. Pre draft smoke.

    You must have enjoyed Draft Day. I don't have the energy anymore to dream up scenarios that have about a 1% chance of happening.

    I'd say less than 1%.

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
    #51

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    I'd say less than 1%.

  • With all of the Redskins needs, I don't see them trading out. They have legit chance of nailing a franchise player in Fowler, Shelton, Beasley...all guys that fit their 3-4.

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
    #52

    @clevfan4life said:

    With all of the Redskins needs, I don't see them trading out. They have legit chance of nailing a franchise player in Fowler, Shelton, Beasley...all guys that fit their 3-4.

    When you have more needs, you need more picks. That's why WSH would deal their #5.

  • @clevfan4life said:

    With all of the Redskins needs, I don't see them trading out. They have legit chance of nailing a franchise player in Fowler, Shelton, Beasley...all guys that fit their 3-4.

    When you have more needs, you need more picks. That's why WSH would deal their #5.

    Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
    #53

    @tour2ma said:

    When you have more needs, you need more picks. That's why WSH would deal their #5.

    Exactly. I don't foresee them being one defensive franchise player away from winning the East. But two to four solid starters could easily make a difference.

  • darren15D darren15 wrote on last edited by
    #54

    Latest rumors have us moving to 9 ......trading with the Giants ..... how much would we have to give up to move 3 spots in the draft...imagine if its the 19 we are giving up and are trying for 2 picks in top 12 🙂

  • @tour2ma said:

    When you have more needs, you need more picks. That's why WSH would deal their #5.

    Exactly. I don't foresee them being one defensive franchise player away from winning the East. But two to four solid starters could easily make a difference.

    W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by Westside Steve
    #55

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Exactly. I don't foresee them being one defensive franchise player away from winning the East. But two to four solid starters could easily make a difference.

    Well luckily the Browns are all set except for one long shot rookie gimmick system quarterback...

    So we can flush as many draft picks down the crapper as we like.

    😉

    WSS

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Exactly. I don't foresee them being one defensive franchise player away from winning the East. But two to four solid starters could easily make a difference.

    Well luckily the Browns are all set except for one long shot rookie gimmick system quarterback...

    So we can flush as many draft picks down the crapper as we like.

    😉

    WSS

    Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
    #56

    @westside-steve said:

    Well luckily the Browns are all set except for one long shot rookie gimmick system quarterback...

    So we can flush as many draft picks down the crapper as we like.

    😉

    WSS

    I'd say that we are all set except for one humble, hardworking, crazy talented franchise quarterback away.

    Two sides of the same coin?

  • @westside-steve said:

    Well luckily the Browns are all set except for one long shot rookie gimmick system quarterback...

    So we can flush as many draft picks down the crapper as we like.

    😉

    WSS

    I'd say that we are all set except for one humble, hardworking, crazy talented franchise quarterback away.

    Two sides of the same coin?

    W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by Westside Steve
    #57

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    I'd say that we are all set except for one humble, hardworking, crazy talented franchise quarterback away.

    Two sides of the same coin?

    Well then he'd certainly be worth a Mike Ditka deal. If he's not, Mike Ditka will have company in the Goat Hall of Fame.

    Luckily by tomorrow morning all the phony rumor stories about the Browns planning a deal to trade their first round picks with everyone from Manchester United to the Montreal Canadiens will be over.

    😉

    WSS

  • tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
    #58

    Well, I promised myself I wouldn't touch alcohol until my birthday. If things go south tonight, that's going right out of the window awfully fucking fast.

  • Latest rumors have us moving to 9 ......trading with the Giants ..... how much would we have to give up to move 3 spots in the draft...imagine if its the 19 we are giving up and are trying for 2 picks in top 12 🙂

    L LondonBrown wrote on last edited by LondonBrown
    #59

    @darren15 said:

    Latest rumors have us moving to 9 ......trading with the Giants ..... how much would we have to give up to move 3 spots in the draft...imagine if its the 19 we are giving up and are trying for 2 picks in top 12 🙂

    Took our 5th rounder to go from 9 to 8 last year, but a third to go from 26 to 22

    Who knows. . .

  • @darren15 said:

    Latest rumors have us moving to 9 ......trading with the Giants ..... how much would we have to give up to move 3 spots in the draft...imagine if its the 19 we are giving up and are trying for 2 picks in top 12 🙂

    Took our 5th rounder to go from 9 to 8 last year, but a third to go from 26 to 22

    Who knows. . .

    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
    #60

    @londonbrown said:

    Took our 5th rounder to go from 9 to 8 last year, but a third to go from 26 to 22

    Who knows. . .

    Without looking at the chart - 3rd, maybe 4th rounder.

    That wouldn't bother me so much. If we trade up to 9, nab Mariota without surrendering 19. I still don't think he'll be more than a slightly above average QB (which I think Petty can be with just as much time on the bench) but I wouldn't be quite as pissed. Then at 19 you can take best available DL/WR. In the 2nd round you can address OLB and OG in the 3rd.

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
    #61

    12 to 9 difference is only 150 points... basically a mid-3rd or two 4ths.

  • MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
    #62

    yep....pretty sure we used only a 5th to move up the 1 spot(from #9 to #8).....last year....

    Depending on where we're looking to move up to(ad for whom)....Id think there is a good chance of trading #19 and other picks to get inside the top 10, while still maintaining #12 AND next years 1st.....

    Make it work Farmer....