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    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/supreme-court-permits-lapd-to-be-sued-for-concealing-evidence/ar-BBjVs5M?ocid=iehp

    "Permits". Unreal. And some of you wonder why we have issues in the ghettos. Since DNA testing has become mainstream you could probably find a wrongful imprison case being won by the inmate every week. They just stopped reporting it. The LAPD actually took this all the way to the supreme court. The unmitigated nerve of that is astounding. Not much anymore can make me stop and say what in the all fuck to myself anymore. But this did. What kind of police dept looks at what they did here and says we have to fight this?

    But we all know why. It was precedent. This is how pervasive this must be throughout the entire country, not just LA county. This case opens the floodgates. This right here infront of our noses proves beyond a shadow of a doubt how corrupt our legal system is. This is as corrupt an entity as any on the planet. The cops in question should spend the rest of their days in jail, what kind of a country do we live in that police officers can admit to deliberately concealing evidence and outright lying to prosecutors but hey...it was 27 months ago and c'mon, was just a ngr.

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      zzzzzzzzzzz

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        http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/supreme-court-permits-lapd-to-be-sued-for-concealing-evidence/ar-BBjVs5M?ocid=iehp

        "Permits". Unreal. And some of you wonder why we have issues in the ghettos. Since DNA testing has become mainstream you could probably find a wrongful imprison case being won by the inmate every week. They just stopped reporting it. The LAPD actually took this all the way to the supreme court. The unmitigated nerve of that is astounding. Not much anymore can make me stop and say what in the all fuck to myself anymore. But this did. What kind of police dept looks at what they did here and says we have to fight this?

        But we all know why. It was precedent. This is how pervasive this must be throughout the entire country, not just LA county. This case opens the floodgates. This right here infront of our noses proves beyond a shadow of a doubt how corrupt our legal system is. This is as corrupt an entity as any on the planet. The cops in question should spend the rest of their days in jail, what kind of a country do we live in that police officers can admit to deliberately concealing evidence and outright lying to prosecutors but hey...it was 27 months ago and c'mon, was just a ngr.

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        @clevfan4life said:

        http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/supreme-court-permits-lapd-to-be-sued-for-concealing-evidence/ar-BBjVs5M?ocid=iehp

        "Permits". Unreal. And some of you wonder why we have issues in the ghettos. Since DNA testing has become mainstream you could probably find a wrongful imprison case being won by the inmate every week. They just stopped reporting it. The LAPD actually took this all the way to the supreme court. The unmitigated nerve of that is astounding. Not much anymore can make me stop and say what in the all fuck to myself anymore. But this did. What kind of police dept looks at what they did here and says we have to fight this?

        But we all know why. It was precedent. This is how pervasive this must be throughout the entire country, not just LA county. This case opens the floodgates. This right here infront of our noses proves beyond a shadow of a doubt how corrupt our legal system is. This is as corrupt an entity as any on the planet. The cops in question should spend the rest of their days in jail, what kind of a country do we live in that police officers can admit to deliberately concealing evidence and outright lying to prosecutors but hey...it was 27 months ago and c'mon, was just a ngr.

        Finally, someone on this board gets it

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          Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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          Who do these cops think they are?

          Lawyers?

          "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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            C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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            national news this morning out of Cleveland, dude was wrongfully imprisoned for 40 years with the help of Cleveland detectives who threatened the main witness's family who was a kid. That's a good job out of CPD for sure.

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              I think our Justice system needs to have a serious look at it, though no politician will likely do anything. We have the highest incarceration rate(among all that report incarceration rates and a random tiny African country), our justice system was meant to err on the side of letting a guilty man go free than having an innocent man in jail.

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                I think our Justice system needs to have a serious look at it, though no politician will likely do anything. We have the highest incarceration rate(among all that report incarceration rates and a random tiny African country), our justice system was meant to err on the side of letting a guilty man go free than having an innocent man in jail.

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                @sadbrownsfan said:

                I think our Justice system needs to have a serious look at it, though no politician will likely do anything. We have the highest incarceration rate(among all that report incarceration rates and a random tiny African country), our justice system was meant to err on the side of letting a guilty man go free than having an innocent man in jail.

                Well infairness African countries have a much higher percentage of black people so... (sorry, I had to)

                But I think the police should be straight up with any and all evidence. I also think that evidence should be allowed, real evidence, no matter how it is obtained. the bottom line of the justice system should be to catch the bad guy and exonerate the good guy, not a game of Jenga.

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                  @sadbrownsfan said:

                  I think our Justice system needs to have a serious look at it, though no politician will likely do anything. We have the highest incarceration rate(among all that report incarceration rates and a random tiny African country), our justice system was meant to err on the side of letting a guilty man go free than having an innocent man in jail.

                  Well infairness African countries have a much higher percentage of black people so... (sorry, I had to)

                  But I think the police should be straight up with any and all evidence. I also think that evidence should be allowed, real evidence, no matter how it is obtained. the bottom line of the justice system should be to catch the bad guy and exonerate the good guy, not a game of Jenga.

                  WSS

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                  S sadbrownsfan wrote on last edited by sadbrownsfan
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                  @westside-steve said:

                  Well infairness African countries have a much higher percentage of black people so... (sorry, I had to)

                  But I think the police should be straight up with any and all evidence. I also think that evidence should be allowed, real evidence, no matter how it is obtained. the bottom line of the justice system should be to catch the bad guy and exonerate the good guy, not a game of Jenga.

                  WSS

                  Do you feel our Justice system does that? Or that we should have incarceration rates higher than everyone in the world? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_incarceration_rate except for Seychelles(I honestly never heard of that place till today) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seychelles

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                    gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                    You'd never heard of the seychelles? Well, ok. Paradise.

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                      Sad I don't think the incarceration rate has much to do with the justice system, unless of course you feel it's the justice system that decides what's illegal and what isn't. sure we can legalize a big load of crimes and cut down on that. In most cases I don't care. What I'm talking about is the rules of evidence. I think if the cops have a piece of evidence that would exonerate somebody it's their duty to provide it. I also think if they sneak into a guys house and find a bale of heroin or a stack of child porn video tapes that evidence should be allowed. And no, for any of the Liberals about to bitch, I don't think evidence should be manufactured.

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                        I couldn't help but notice Yemen. I don't suppose there's much I'd like to trade places with them on.

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                          S sadbrownsfan wrote on last edited by
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                          I am including what is or is not legal into the Justice system, and also the amount of punishment of the crime. There are many privatized prisons that usually have quotas with the state, that if they fall below a certain rate get money back from the state http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/6-shocking-revelations-about-how-private-prisons-make-their-money

                          I do agree with if the cops have evidence they should bring it forward, the search warrant only says we can take this or look here is a little bit more arguable(if they find it in the coarse of searching what the warrant asked to search yes, but it can't just be an open warrant to raid a house to try and find something illegal)

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                            gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                            it's not necessarily a case of legalising things, you could instead decriminalise them or not have a mandatory jail sentence. Isn't there some stupidly high proportion of people in your jails for drug possession?

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                              it's not necessarily a case of legalising things, you could instead decriminalise them or not have a mandatory jail sentence. Isn't there some stupidly high proportion of people in your jails for drug possession?

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                              MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                              @gftchris said:

                              it's not necessarily a case of legalising things, you could instead decriminalise them or not have a mandatory jail sentence. Isn't there some stupidly high proportion of people in your jails for drug possession?

                              Yes. Weed. Satan

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                                it's not necessarily a case of legalising things, you could instead decriminalise them or not have a mandatory jail sentence. Isn't there some stupidly high proportion of people in your jails for drug possession?

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                                @gftchris said:

                                it's not necessarily a case of legalising things, you could instead decriminalise them or not have a mandatory jail sentence. Isn't there some stupidly high proportion of people in your jails for drug possession?

                                Well that's semantics, I would say that would involve legalizing, or decriminalizing possession of illegal drugs. I have no, well very little at least, problem with that.

                                Anyone know what all those prisoners in Sevechelle have been convicted of?

                                Seems like a reasonably ok place aside from that right?

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                                  You who championed weed should keep in mind how much profit it brings to so many segments of American society and for so many different reasons.

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                                    gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                                    I think there's a lot of somali pirates ending up there because it's a UN prison.

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                                      it's not necessarily a case of legalising things, you could instead decriminalise them or not have a mandatory jail sentence. Isn't there some stupidly high proportion of people in your jails for drug possession?

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                                      @gftchris said:

                                      it's not necessarily a case of legalising things, you could instead decriminalise them or not have a mandatory jail sentence. Isn't there some stupidly high proportion of people in your jails for drug possession?

                                      Which may serve to underscore its exective properties huh?

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                                        You who championed weed should keep in mind how much profit it brings to so many segments of American society and for so many different reasons.

                                        WSS

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                                        @westside-steve said:

                                        You who championed weed should keep in mind how much profit it brings to so many segments of American society and for so many different reasons.

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                                        And legalizing it takes the profit away from the undesireables. Who's going to sell weed on the black market when you can open your own establishment and sell it legally and for more money? And those who don't want to buy from a store can grow their own. It's what I would do in a heartbeat. Legalizing it also would take somewhere in the neighborhood of 50% profits from the south American cartels. That in and of itself makes it worth it.

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                                          @westside-steve said:

                                          You who championed weed should keep in mind how much profit it brings to so many segments of American society and for so many different reasons.

                                          WSS

                                          And legalizing it takes the profit away from the undesireables. Who's going to sell weed on the black market when you can open your own establishment and sell it legally and for more money? And those who don't want to buy from a store can grow their own. It's what I would do in a heartbeat. Legalizing it also would take somewhere in the neighborhood of 50% profits from the south American cartels. That in and of itself makes it worth it.

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                                          @clevfan4life said:

                                          And legalizing it takes the profit away from the undesireables. Who's going to sell weed on the black market when you can open your own establishment and sell it legally and for more money? And those who don't want to buy from a store can grow their own. It's what I would do in a heartbeat. Legalizing it also would take somewhere in the neighborhood of 50% profits from the south American cartels. That in and of itself makes it worth it.

                                          Uh it also takes profit away from, in no particular order, who are people who sell it, police arrest them, the DEA, the judges who are elected for their war on drugs, the city administrators who use it as an election campaign tool, the municipalities who thrive from the fees coming from fines, the drug counselors, doctors and clinics to treat the fake addiction... But most especially one of the Democrat Party's biggest constituencies the trial lawyers who rake in billions to keep dopers out of the can.

                                          One more thing, I think the idea that the prisons are crowded with simple possession charges is a myth. I don't know exactly what the numbers are so if you or Woody or Chris actually know go ahead and post them. My guess would be people in prison for dope are trafficking or worse. anyone care to prove me wrong?

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