Browns Draft Strategy beginning in 2016
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And if you have lesser talent at QB the receivers don't matter, so pretty much it boils down to receivers don't matter.
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And if you have lesser talent at QB the receivers don't matter, so pretty much it boils down to receivers don't matter.
And if you have lesser talent at QB the receivers don't matter, so pretty much it boils down to receivers don't matter.
Not true AJ Green and Julio Jones make their respective offenses a lot better. I'll be interested to see how Carr performs with a #1,
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And McCown would have been our QB regardless of what shiny hood ornament WR we drafted.
So tell me...what was your point?
Point is the examples you used as to successful teams without that prototypical #1 have a very good QBs. If you have a great QB you can survive with lesser talent at the skill positions.
Point is the examples you used as to successful teams without that prototypical #1 have a very good QBs. If you have a great QB you can survive with lesser talent at the skill positions.
The examples I used were the examples of the last two Super Bowl teams.
So what you're saying a #1 WR isn't needed for a Super Bowl run. I'm glad you could clear that up, now I get what your point was.
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And if you have lesser talent at QB the receivers don't matter, so pretty much it boils down to receivers don't matter.
Not true AJ Green and Julio Jones make their respective offenses a lot better. I'll be interested to see how Carr performs with a #1,
Not true AJ Green and Julio Jones make their respective offenses a lot better. I'll be interested to see how Carr performs with a #1,
Yet the Falcons and Bengals are a combined 1-6 in the postseason since drafting their studly weapons.
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And if you have lesser talent at QB the receivers don't matter, so pretty much it boils down to receivers don't matter.
Not true AJ Green and Julio Jones make their respective offenses a lot better. I'll be interested to see how Carr performs with a #1,
Not true AJ Green and Julio Jones make their respective offenses a lot better.
If Julio makes his offense better, why do the Browns have a better record over the last 2 years than the Falcons?
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Not true AJ Green and Julio Jones make their respective offenses a lot better. I'll be interested to see how Carr performs with a #1,
Yet the Falcons and Bengals are a combined 1-6 in the postseason since drafting their studly weapons.
Yet the Falcons and Bengals are a combined 1-6 in the postseason since drafting their studly weapons.
Yet in the playoffs.
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Not true AJ Green and Julio Jones make their respective offenses a lot better.
If Julio makes his offense better, why do the Browns have a better record over the last 2 years than the Falcons?
If Julio makes his offense better, why do the Browns have a better record over the last 2 years than the Falcons?
Falcons have no defense.
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Our passing attack was better in 2013 with Josh Gordon than it was in 2014 without him.
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Our passing attack was better in 2013 with Josh Gordon than it was in 2014 without him.
Our passing attack was better in 2013 with Josh Gordon than it was in 2014 without him.
Oddly it seemed better in 2014 without him than in 2014 with him.
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Yet the Falcons and Bengals are a combined 1-6 in the postseason since drafting their studly weapons.
Yet in the playoffs.
Yet in the playoffs.
Very true.
Except the Falcons were in the playoffs in 2008 and 2010, right before Julio was drafted, and Bengals in 2009.
So these shiny new WR's took playoff teams to...right back where they were before.
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Both Julio and AJ were drafted in the belief that they were the "last pieces". It's why ATL and CIN paid to move up and get them.
Both, when healthy, have more than fulfilled their promise.
Yet neither team materially improved their results.
Q.E.D.
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We have good receivers. We have a good OL. We don't have a good quarterback. We have a good running game. That combination is enough to win games. You can tweak this or that here or there and the results will be the same. It's all about balance.
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Both Julio and AJ were drafted in the belief that they were the "last pieces". It's why ATL and CIN paid to move up and get them.
Both, when healthy, have more than fulfilled their promise.
Yet neither team materially improved their results.
Q.E.D.
Both Julio and AJ were drafted in the belief that they were the "last pieces". It's why ATL and CIN paid to move up and get them.
Both, when healthy, have more than fulfilled their promise.
Yet neither team materially improved their results.
Q.E.D.
I believe I posted the win totals of teams that took top 20 receivers the past 5 years and how only 2 teams improved their record the following season.
So QED indeed.
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The Seahawks and Patriots "proof" only works insofar as you ignore the other TEN playoff teams all to a "man" having what people would regard as a great number 1 receiver....
Also, Gronk. Also, Wilson's legs. So you see, there are many ways to skin a cat.
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The Seahawks and Patriots "proof" only works insofar as you ignore the other TEN playoff teams all to a "man" having what people would regard as a great number 1 receiver....
Also, Gronk. Also, Wilson's legs. So you see, there are many ways to skin a cat.
So you see, there are many ways to skin a cat.
And there it is. Not every team employs the same strategy to find success. Although it does seem that the most successful teams focus on positions more important than WR. Belicheck has never selected a 1st RD receiver and only has 4 Super Bowl rings.
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But he has signed some highly touted free agent wide receivers and has Gronk.
And I'm not sure if people realize this or not, but merely saying "x team went to the playoffs, drafted a stud WR, then didn't" does not prove the point. I'm pretty confident in saying I could find those same results with any position on the field.
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Who defines top 20?
Does the team use a draft pick in the top 20 of the first round - is usually how it's done?
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Oh I thought you meant they had one of the top 20 receivers in the league on their team.
Although as I said, I think I could do your analysis with any position.
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Hey, if you have the time...
But this discussion was about one position in particular... WR.
Your Patriot FA example may have come closest to making the WR case.... once... in Moss' first year. The year the Pats were nearly perfect. They were pretty damn complete before he joined them. ANd of course he wasn't a draft pick.
Other Pat FA WRs either did nothing special, e.g., Chad Johnson, or were made by the Pats use of them, Welker.
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