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  • gftChrisG gftChris

    @texasag1969 said:

    Well 9% of us think a trade down is in order. 😆 Lot of folks want defenders this year.

    Contingent on someone wanting to trade up though, and try to get ahead of Dallas/SD. Maybe someone falls in love with Bosa? Jacksonville perhaps?

    @gftchris said:

    Contingent on someone wanting to trade up though, and try to get ahead of Dallas/SD. Maybe someone falls in love with Bosa? Jacksonville perhaps?

    Actually Dallas may just want to get ahead of the Jags and the Jags may just want to stay ahead of Dallas since Bosa would fit either team just right. Don't believe any QB misinformation coming out of anyone.

  • T TexasAg1969

    @gftchris said:

    Contingent on someone wanting to trade up though, and try to get ahead of Dallas/SD. Maybe someone falls in love with Bosa? Jacksonville perhaps?

    Actually Dallas may just want to get ahead of the Jags and the Jags may just want to stay ahead of Dallas since Bosa would fit either team just right. Don't believe any QB misinformation coming out of anyone.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Actually Dallas may just want to get ahead of the Jags and the Jags may just want to stay ahead of Dallas since Bosa would fit either team just right. Don't believe any QB misinformation coming out of anyone.

    Dallas already ahead of Jags - Dal picks #4, jags #5.

  • gftChrisG gftChris

    @texasag1969 said:

    Actually Dallas may just want to get ahead of the Jags and the Jags may just want to stay ahead of Dallas since Bosa would fit either team just right. Don't believe any QB misinformation coming out of anyone.

    Dallas already ahead of Jags - Dal picks #4, jags #5.

    @gftchris said:

    Dallas already ahead of Jags - Dal picks #4, jags #5.

    Oops typed that backasswards, but we can throw SD in the mix for him too.

  • Canton MikeC Canton Mike

    @mark-o said:

    I'm good with either Goff or Wentz. I trust Hue to know which QB he wants.

    I like Wentz first but agree with Mark.

    It's nice that so many of us DO have faith in our HC.

    Mike

    @canton-mike said:

    I like Wentz first but agree with Mark.

    It's nice that so many of us DO have faith in our HC.

    Mike

    +1 I voted Wentz and also have faith in Hue to finally deliver US and the Browns a quality QB

    Whether a FA or draft pick! Trading down is an option if we get an amazing deal and our guy....

    or two or three! GO BROWNS

  • gftChrisG gftChris

    @d-bone said:

    Agree........ Been a while since we could say that, and actually believe it.

    When was the last time people had this much confidence in someone within the browns? Mike Holmgren?

    Goff, of course...

    @gftchris said:

    When was the last time people had this much confidence in someone within the browns?

    Think you have to go all the way back to 2014... Farmer and Pet.

    Before that 2013, when Walrus was sent packing...

    Don't think so? Do the search and you'll see..

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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    Goff, of course...

    @gftchris said:

    When was the last time people had this much confidence in someone within the browns?

    Think you have to go all the way back to 2014... Farmer and Pet.

    Before that 2013, when Walrus was sent packing...

    Don't think so? Do the search and you'll see..

    @tour2ma said:

    Goff, of course...

    Think you have to go all the way back to 2014... Farmer and Pet.

    Before that 2013, when Walrus was sent packing...

    Don't think so? Do the search and you'll see..

    You're probably right I guess.

    bbedwardB 1 Reply

  • Pick 1a Goff

    Pick 1b Wentz

    Either way it has to be a QB, we have a quality veteran QB to mentor a young guy fresh out of college.

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  • gftChrisG gftChris

    @tour2ma said:

    Goff, of course...

    Think you have to go all the way back to 2014... Farmer and Pet.

    Before that 2013, when Walrus was sent packing...

    Don't think so? Do the search and you'll see..

    You're probably right I guess.

    @gftchris said:

    You're probably right I guess.

    People were extremely high on Farmer, while a lot of people were really down on Banner and Lombardi right from the beginning.

    Holmgren and crew also had people very confident in the beginning.

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  • bbedwardB bbedward

    @gftchris said:

    You're probably right I guess.

    People were extremely high on Farmer, while a lot of people were really down on Banner and Lombardi right from the beginning.

    Holmgren and crew also had people very confident in the beginning.

    @bbedward said:

    People were extremely high on Farmer, while a lot of people were really down on Banner and Lombardi right from the beginning.

    Holmgren and crew also had people very confident in the beginning.

    I seem to recall people not being particularly high on Pettine though.

  • gftChrisG gftChris

    @bbedward said:

    People were extremely high on Farmer, while a lot of people were really down on Banner and Lombardi right from the beginning.

    Holmgren and crew also had people very confident in the beginning.

    I seem to recall people not being particularly high on Pettine though.

    @gftchris said:

    I seem to recall people not being particularly high on Pettine though.

    I think if you ask the Raiders fans they'd say don't give Hue personnel decisions no matter what you do! But Browns fans are extremely confident in him choosing out QBOTF, so we'll see. Nobody really knows how much control Sushi and Paul and the other guy nobody cares about have over the draft - but I assume it's not Hue's decision alone anyway.

  • bbedwardB bbedward

    @gftchris said:

    I seem to recall people not being particularly high on Pettine though.

    I think if you ask the Raiders fans they'd say don't give Hue personnel decisions no matter what you do! But Browns fans are extremely confident in him choosing out QBOTF, so we'll see. Nobody really knows how much control Sushi and Paul and the other guy nobody cares about have over the draft - but I assume it's not Hue's decision alone anyway.

    @bbedward said:

    I think if you ask the Raiders fans they'd say don't give Hue personnel decisions no matter what you do! But Browns fans are extremely confident in him choosing out QBOTF, so we'll see. Nobody really knows how much control Sushi and Paul and the other guy nobody cares about have over the draft - but I assume it's not Hue's decision alone anyway.

    I think part of it is that it's not just Hue, but we have a Hue-gely experienced coaching staff this year, filled with 'lifers'

    The general reaction to Pettine was 'who?'

  • I'm in Camp Wentz. Guy is built like a linebacker, has a cannon, and a brain. I want to see AFCN defenders bounce off of our QB for a change.

  • T TexasAg1969

    Well 9% of us think a trade down is in order. 😆 Lot of folks want defenders this year and we need extra players in multiple positions.

    Edit: When you feel fine with either QB, a trade down just a little makes sense.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Well 9% of us think a trade down is in order. 😆 Lot of folks want defenders this year and we need extra players in multiple positions.

    Edit: When you feel fine with either QB, a trade down just a little makes sense.

    Interesting. I was the other trade down guy.

  • bbedwardB bbedward

    @gftchris said:

    You're probably right I guess.

    People were extremely high on Farmer, while a lot of people were really down on Banner and Lombardi right from the beginning.

    Holmgren and crew also had people very confident in the beginning.

    @bbedward said:

    People were extremely high on Farmer, while a lot of people were really down on Banner and Lombardi right from the beginning.

    Holmgren and crew also had people very confident in the beginning.

    Banner/Lombardi got a boost just because their ascension meant Holmgren's departure.

    @gftchris said:

    I seem to recall people not being particularly high on Pettine though.

    Pet was a virtual unknown. So the instant reaction was "Who?" Then the good reports from BUF developed support in short order...

    @bbedward said:

    I think if you ask the Raiders fans they'd say don't give Hue personnel decisions no matter what you do! But Browns fans are extremely confident in him choosing out QBOTF, so we'll see. Nobody really knows how much control Sushi and Paul and the other guy nobody cares about have over the draft - but I assume it's not Hue's decision alone anyway.

    Seems like already seeing some early signs of "divergence" over analytics's role. Hopefully just me over-reading between the lines.

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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @bbedward said:

    People were extremely high on Farmer, while a lot of people were really down on Banner and Lombardi right from the beginning.

    Holmgren and crew also had people very confident in the beginning.

    Banner/Lombardi got a boost just because their ascension meant Holmgren's departure.

    @gftchris said:

    I seem to recall people not being particularly high on Pettine though.

    Pet was a virtual unknown. So the instant reaction was "Who?" Then the good reports from BUF developed support in short order...

    @bbedward said:

    I think if you ask the Raiders fans they'd say don't give Hue personnel decisions no matter what you do! But Browns fans are extremely confident in him choosing out QBOTF, so we'll see. Nobody really knows how much control Sushi and Paul and the other guy nobody cares about have over the draft - but I assume it's not Hue's decision alone anyway.

    Seems like already seeing some early signs of "divergence" over analytics's role. Hopefully just me over-reading between the lines.

    @tour2ma said:

    Pet was a virtual unknown. So the instant reaction was "Who?" Then the good reports from BUF developed support in short order...

    @gftchris said:

    The general reaction to Pettine was 'who?'

    I covered that... 😉

  • Mark OM Mark O

    I'm good with either Goff or Wentz. I trust Hue to know which QB he wants.

    @mark-o said:

    I'm good with either Goff or Wentz. I trust Hue to know which QB he wants.

    Ditto, voted Wentz, but I'm fine with Goff if that's who Hue likes.

  • Wentz.

    After the season ended I was all for trading down. I've flip flopped because of reading most of your posts. We need a qb and I feel letting Wentz go would be idiotic. If he doesn't pan out at least we tried and we wouldn't be the first team to guess wrong at#2.

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  • analytics says trade down....

  • if it were analytic it would be Ramsey ahead of Bosa. I will illegally park my tent as Hue says "get me Goff or Wentz at QB & I'll coach the shit of him". PS-- AND don't fuck that up!! Voted Wentz..

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  • Wentz getting my vote over goff. If equal go with size

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