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  • OK all you Chicken Littles, note this: If the Browns could get one of the following OTs, the loss of The Schwartz could be mostly negated:

    Jeff Allen KC

    Byron Bell Tenn

    Donald Penn Oakland

    Jermon Bushrod Chicago

    Russell Okung Seattle

    Tyler Polumbus Denver

  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    and who are the people that were praising the firing of the last regime and are now befuddled with what's happening in the FO now?

    geez. and some thought we'd just magically jump to 10 and 6 with the hiring of an 8 and 8 head coach and some brainiac suits.

    @miktoxic said:

    and who are the people that were praising the firing of the last regime and are now befuddled with what's happening in the FO now?

    geez. and some thought we'd just magically jump to 10 and 6 with the hiring of an 8 and 8 head coach and some brainiac suits.

    No one thinks that.

    Adhering to the "build through the draft and maintain your core players" mantra is what some are upset about, Schwartz was a key young player. Thanks.

    gumby73G MLD WoodyM hoortaH 3 Replies

  • I agree with everything said on the ESPN podcast posted on the Browns page after Schwartz signed.

    They may have a "idea" about value, but the increase of the cap appears to have shocked/amazed them at the contract sizes signed on the market.

    The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
  • Mike HM Mike H

    @miktoxic said:

    and who are the people that were praising the firing of the last regime and are now befuddled with what's happening in the FO now?

    geez. and some thought we'd just magically jump to 10 and 6 with the hiring of an 8 and 8 head coach and some brainiac suits.

    No one thinks that.

    Adhering to the "build through the draft and maintain your core players" mantra is what some are upset about, Schwartz was a key young player. Thanks.

    @mike-h said:

    No one thinks that.

    Adhering to the "build through the draft and maintain your core players" mantra is what some are upset about, Schwartz was a key young player. Thanks.

    Got true details from both sides on Schwartz Deal being pulled?? mind blowing minds are swelling

    Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends

  • Other than KC deal is a 5-yr job, not seeing details on $$$... yet...

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196

  • Rumor is that the Browns may have pulled the offer to Schwartz because they have their eye on a different ROT that would actually be a better deal for them....analytics wise. (maybe one of the guys listed above?)

    So, e.g., they may feel they can get a guy just about as good as Schwartz for a couple of million or so per year less.

    MudflyM runyon27R T SuomiS 4 Replies

  • Theirs been mingling since combine & few hours before the start, we pull out for some nickels & dimes on a guy like Schwartz that may want to stay here. Can't wait to hear this All Star 😛 Sushi Foooowwweeeeee!!

    Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends

  • Gipson to Jags

    gumby73G 1 Reply
  • The GipperT The Gipper

    Rumor is that the Browns may have pulled the offer to Schwartz because they have their eye on a different ROT that would actually be a better deal for them....analytics wise. (maybe one of the guys listed above?)

    So, e.g., they may feel they can get a guy just about as good as Schwartz for a couple of million or so per year less.

    @the-gipper said:

    Rumor is that the Browns may have pulled the offer to Schwartz because they have their eye on a different ROT that would actually be a better deal for them....analytics wise. (maybe one of the guys listed above?)

    So, e.g., they may feel they can get a guy just about as good as Schwartz for a couple of million or so per year less.

    there are a number of them still out there....not like Schwartz was the only one....BUT, of the 3 players that left, Mitch is the one Im sorry to see go....

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  • Mike HM Mike H

    Gipson to Jags

    @mike-h said:

    Gipson to Jags

    why of course.. just went to the hard liquor

    Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends
  • The GipperT The Gipper

    Rumor is that the Browns may have pulled the offer to Schwartz because they have their eye on a different ROT that would actually be a better deal for them....analytics wise. (maybe one of the guys listed above?)

    So, e.g., they may feel they can get a guy just about as good as Schwartz for a couple of million or so per year less.

    @the-gipper said:

    Rumor is that the Browns may have pulled the offer to Schwartz because they have their eye on a different ROT that would actually be a better deal for them....analytics wise. (maybe one of the guys listed above?)

    So, e.g., they may feel they can get a guy just about as good as Schwartz for a couple of million or so per year less.

    Why are we so concerned with saving a couple million dollars when we have like 40 million in cap space. What exactly are we saving this money for?

    Tour2maT The GipperT 2 Replies
  • The GipperT The Gipper

    Rumor is that the Browns may have pulled the offer to Schwartz because they have their eye on a different ROT that would actually be a better deal for them....analytics wise. (maybe one of the guys listed above?)

    So, e.g., they may feel they can get a guy just about as good as Schwartz for a couple of million or so per year less.

    @the-gipper said:

    Rumor is that the Browns may have pulled the offer to Schwartz because they have their eye on a different ROT that would actually be a better deal for them....analytics wise. (maybe one of the guys listed above?)

    So, e.g., they may feel they can get a guy just about as good as Schwartz for a couple of million or so per year less.

    Hence the comments from Berea about how important it was to keep our own. Sorry Gip, not buying that argument today. They fucked this up and no amount of repainting is going to change the crumbling underneath.

  • runyon27R runyon27

    @the-gipper said:

    Rumor is that the Browns may have pulled the offer to Schwartz because they have their eye on a different ROT that would actually be a better deal for them....analytics wise. (maybe one of the guys listed above?)

    So, e.g., they may feel they can get a guy just about as good as Schwartz for a couple of million or so per year less.

    Why are we so concerned with saving a couple million dollars when we have like 40 million in cap space. What exactly are we saving this money for?

    @runyon27 said:

    What exactly are we saving this money for?

    Blockbuster Day 2 signing frenzy???

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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  • Mike HM Mike H

    @miktoxic said:

    and who are the people that were praising the firing of the last regime and are now befuddled with what's happening in the FO now?

    geez. and some thought we'd just magically jump to 10 and 6 with the hiring of an 8 and 8 head coach and some brainiac suits.

    No one thinks that.

    Adhering to the "build through the draft and maintain your core players" mantra is what some are upset about, Schwartz was a key young player. Thanks.

    @mike-h said:

    No one thinks that.

    Adhering to the "build through the draft and maintain your core players" mantra is what some are upset about, Schwartz was a key young player. Thanks.

    "maintain core players"

    uhhh

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
    Mike HM 1 Reply
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @runyon27 said:

    What exactly are we saving this money for?

    Blockbuster Day 2 signing frenzy???

    @tour2ma said:

    Blockbuster Day 2 signing frenzy???

    Sign Sanu to $45 million 😵

  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

    @mike-h said:

    No one thinks that.

    Adhering to the "build through the draft and maintain your core players" mantra is what some are upset about, Schwartz was a key young player. Thanks.

    "maintain core players"

    uhhh

    @mld-woody said:

    "maintain core players"

    uhhh

    I was saying people have been harping on that, and are upset because the Browns are shedding their core guys -- all young, except Mack.

  • Gotta keep your 3-13 core guys for sure.

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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    Rumor is that the Browns may have pulled the offer to Schwartz because they have their eye on a different ROT that would actually be a better deal for them....analytics wise. (maybe one of the guys listed above?)

    So, e.g., they may feel they can get a guy just about as good as Schwartz for a couple of million or so per year less.

    @the-gipper said:

    Rumor is that the Browns may have pulled the offer to Schwartz because they have their eye on a different ROT that would actually be a better deal for them....analytics wise.

    Yeah - Ron Yary.

  • D BoneD D Bone

    Gotta keep your 3-13 core guys for sure.

    @d-bone said:

    Gotta keep your 3-13 core guys for sure.

    I like the sarcasm but the two highest paid players are a 31 year old LT and a concussion prone DB at $24 million. If "blowing this up" was truly what this is all about people better not get upset when Thomas gets moved for a 6th rounder on draft day.

  • B BaconHound

    @d-bone said:

    Gotta keep your 3-13 core guys for sure.

    I like the sarcasm but the two highest paid players are a 31 year old LT and a concussion prone DB at $24 million. If "blowing this up" was truly what this is all about people better not get upset when Thomas gets moved for a 6th rounder on draft day.

    @baconhound said:

    I like the sarcasm but the two highest paid players are a 31 year old LT and a concussion prone DB at $24 million. If "blowing this up" was truly what this is all about people better not get upset when Thomas gets moved for a 6th rounder on draft day.

    Haden has one of the most inflated, bad contracts in the NFL. Hasn't been a top 5 corner (or even sniffed that territory) in 2 years since he signed it.

    If anyone needs to go, it's him next.

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