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  • LumberghL Lumbergh wrote on last edited by
    #12

    @inspecta said:

    can't play the position for shit, he would be a nice backup though, a kid that can come in a win you a game when you don't expect much from him.

    I have a similar feel for BQ's abilities.

    NFL coaches seem to agree with me.

  • LumberghL Lumbergh wrote on last edited by
    #13

    @inspecta said:

    That's why they're calling the Browns about aquiring Quinn, while as Flugel so elequently points out we've gotten 31 "no thank you"s about DA?

    neither you nor Flugel know what anybody's doing, Quinn lover.

  • kellen rulezK kellen rulez wrote on last edited by
    #14

    Hell jhea nugga. Pay the man. You Brownies are gonna eat crow, you watch.

  • Hell jhea nugga. Pay the man. You Brownies are gonna eat crow, you watch.

    LumberghL Lumbergh wrote on last edited by
    #15

    @kellen-rulez said:

    Hell jhea nugga. Pay the man. You Brownies are gonna eat crow, you watch.

    Hey Freddie, do you know the man personally?

  • chocoC choco wrote on last edited by
    #16

    lolz.....

    yup......

    y'all got a deal....

  • @kellen-rulez said:

    Hell jhea nugga. Pay the man. You Brownies are gonna eat crow, you watch.

    Hey Freddie, do you know the man personally?

    kellen rulezK kellen rulez wrote on last edited by
    #17

    @lumbergh said:

    Hey Freddie, do you know the man personally?

    Awww yeah baby. Real personally. πŸ˜‰

    He's in your picture.

  • T Tobalaz wrote on last edited by
    #18

    Good for Tampa, they get to eat that bonus as soon as K2's knee finishes falling apart.

  • D DeadWombat wrote on last edited by
    #19

    Inspecta, Lumberg, do I have to send you to opposite corners of the room? πŸ™„

    This isn't even a QB thread. We're supposed to be talking about how idiotic generous Tampa is with K2's paycheck.

  • Hell jhea nugga. Pay the man. You Brownies are gonna eat crow, you watch.

    plumcrazy73P plumcrazy73 wrote on last edited by
    #20

    @kellen-rulez said:

    Hell jhea nugga. Pay the man. You Brownies are gonna eat crow, you watch.

    First off the Browns made a business decision, they got something for him while they could. They came out ahead, they are not worried about what he does from here out. They are worried about his replacement.

    So are the Browns going to laugh if he does not make it till say next year? NO they are running a business. They weigh the risks and rewards lose on some win on others.

    A great coach once said don't worry about who you passed up and how they do in the NFL, worry about how the ones that you do sign does in the NFL. or something to that effect.(don't remember who)

  • @kellen-rulez said:

    Hell jhea nugga. Pay the man. You Brownies are gonna eat crow, you watch.

    First off the Browns made a business decision, they got something for him while they could. They came out ahead, they are not worried about what he does from here out. They are worried about his replacement.

    So are the Browns going to laugh if he does not make it till say next year? NO they are running a business. They weigh the risks and rewards lose on some win on others.

    A great coach once said don't worry about who you passed up and how they do in the NFL, worry about how the ones that you do sign does in the NFL. or something to that effect.(don't remember who)

    kellen rulezK kellen rulez wrote on last edited by
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    @plumcrazy73 said:

    First off the Browns made a business decision, they got something for him while they could. They came out ahead, they are not worried about what he does from here out. They are worried about his replacement.

    So are the Browns going to laugh if he does not make it till say next year? NO they are running a business. They weigh the risks and rewards lose on some win on others.

    A great coach once said don't worry about who you passed up and how they do in the NFL, worry about how the ones that you do sign does in the NFL. or something to that effect.(don't remember who)

    You're the aforementioned Brownies! If I was addressing your front office the message would have been sent elsewhere. πŸ˜›

    As far as them coming out ahead, didn't the previous Butch Davis regime trade about 3 picks to move up one spot to get him? Pretty desperate, and no way they came close to breaking even. Not after they lost two whole years of production from him. The time is now. Hahaha!

  • @plumcrazy73 said:

    First off the Browns made a business decision, they got something for him while they could. They came out ahead, they are not worried about what he does from here out. They are worried about his replacement.

    So are the Browns going to laugh if he does not make it till say next year? NO they are running a business. They weigh the risks and rewards lose on some win on others.

    A great coach once said don't worry about who you passed up and how they do in the NFL, worry about how the ones that you do sign does in the NFL. or something to that effect.(don't remember who)

    You're the aforementioned Brownies! If I was addressing your front office the message would have been sent elsewhere. πŸ˜›

    As far as them coming out ahead, didn't the previous Butch Davis regime trade about 3 picks to move up one spot to get him? Pretty desperate, and no way they came close to breaking even. Not after they lost two whole years of production from him. The time is now. Hahaha!

    chocoC choco wrote on last edited by
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    @kellen-rulez said:

    You're the aforementioned Brownies! If I was addressing your front office the message would have been sent elsewhere. πŸ˜›

    As far as them coming out ahead, didn't the previous Butch Davis regime trade about 3 picks to move up one spot to get him? Pretty desperate, and no way they came close to breaking even. Not after they lost two whole years of production from him. The time is now. Hahaha!

    so how does our past coaches mistake somehow make the amount paid to Winslow now.....after we've aready ran him into the ground.....not ridiculous. you gave 20 million to a kid that gonna cut and run with it after a season.

    im still trying to grip your angle here.......we made a mistake taking this kid.....he ruined himself thru stupidity, so we let him go. you're infinitely superior FO then gives him what he wants, despite the fact he's a broken down old mule.....and you think coming in here bragging about it is gonna chafe our collective ass?

    you're stupider than i initially gave you credit for. good luck finding a QB that can get him the ball.....

  • ClevelandFanForLifeC ClevelandFanForLife wrote on last edited by
    #23

    will kellen rulez become for kellen winslow what lumbergh has become for da? only time will tell...

    but seriously, kellen rulez might be like 12 years old.

  • chocoC choco wrote on last edited by
    #24

    post like a big boy, get treated like one.

  • @kellen-rulez said:

    You're the aforementioned Brownies! If I was addressing your front office the message would have been sent elsewhere. πŸ˜›

    As far as them coming out ahead, didn't the previous Butch Davis regime trade about 3 picks to move up one spot to get him? Pretty desperate, and no way they came close to breaking even. Not after they lost two whole years of production from him. The time is now. Hahaha!

    so how does our past coaches mistake somehow make the amount paid to Winslow now.....after we've aready ran him into the ground.....not ridiculous. you gave 20 million to a kid that gonna cut and run with it after a season.

    im still trying to grip your angle here.......we made a mistake taking this kid.....he ruined himself thru stupidity, so we let him go. you're infinitely superior FO then gives him what he wants, despite the fact he's a broken down old mule.....and you think coming in here bragging about it is gonna chafe our collective ass?

    you're stupider than i initially gave you credit for. good luck finding a QB that can get him the ball.....

    kellen rulezK kellen rulez wrote on last edited by
    #25

    @choco said:

    so how does our past coaches mistake somehow make the amount paid to Winslow now.....after we've aready ran him into the ground.....not ridiculous. you gave 20 million to a kid that gonna cut and run with it after a season.

    im still trying to grip your angle here.......we made a mistake taking this kid.....he ruined himself thru stupidity, so we let him go. you're infinitely superior FO then gives him what he wants, despite the fact he's a broken down old mule.....and you think coming in here bragging about it is gonna chafe our collective ass?

    you're stupider than i initially gave you credit for. good luck finding a QB that can get him the ball.....

    I fly no Tampa colors, just the rainbow variety.

    I feel Kellen will produce more than any of you sour grapes Brownies are giving him credit for.

    And, you assume more than I initially gave you credit for.

    Wanna put him up against Royals in a little bet for '09?

  • chocoC choco wrote on last edited by choco
    #26

    im not on here sucking royals dick......so whats your point? e-penis not big enough?

    i think i'll just leave the rest of your post alone. your making this too easy....and not fun.

  • GipsG Gips wrote on last edited by
    #27

    I think kw2s knees will hold out long enough to make mankok look like idiots to browns fans but hold on folks they arent done cleaning the pantry of our best stuff and giving it away cheap while replacing those goods with expired white label junk..πŸ˜‰

  • plumcrazy73P plumcrazy73 wrote on last edited by
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    You do realize that most Browns fans loved KW it is just he is damaged goods and not worth the risk of giving him the size of contract that he was going to want if we had kept him and had to redo his contract during contract talks. It is not that we did not or do not like him, just it is a risk versus reward thing.

    "As far as them coming out ahead, didn't the previous Butch Davis regime trade about 3 picks to move up one spot to get him? Pretty desperate, and no way they came close to breaking even. Not after they lost two whole years of production from him. The time is now. Hahaha!"

    So what does not matter what they gave up to get him. The fact remains giving him a big contract with so much guarenteed money is way more risky then just trading him getting something in return from him while he still can get value, How much value would he have if he got hurt this year and was done. Or we keep him, he does really good, then we reward him with the contract that he wants then he gets hurt. RISK VS REWARD nothing personal.

    Personally he could have been one of the best TE's ever had he not gotten injured, then gotten stupid

  • @inspecta said:

    That's why they're calling the Browns about aquiring Quinn, while as Flugel so elequently points out we've gotten 31 "no thank you"s about DA?

    neither you nor Flugel know what anybody's doing, Quinn lover.

    V Vegasdogg wrote on last edited by
    #29

    @lumbergh said:

    neither you nor Flugel know what anybody's doing,

    @lumbergh said:

    NFL coaches seem to agree with me.

    Pot. This is kettle. You're black.

    Dude you don't seem to realize that nobody wants DA. There is not talk of any teams wanting him over Quinn. All of the football talk on all of the sites, radio stations, and NFL TV shows speak to teams wanting Quinn. Not DA.

    Damn you're just too dense.

  • @plumcrazy73 said:

    First off the Browns made a business decision, they got something for him while they could. They came out ahead, they are not worried about what he does from here out. They are worried about his replacement.

    So are the Browns going to laugh if he does not make it till say next year? NO they are running a business. They weigh the risks and rewards lose on some win on others.

    A great coach once said don't worry about who you passed up and how they do in the NFL, worry about how the ones that you do sign does in the NFL. or something to that effect.(don't remember who)

    You're the aforementioned Brownies! If I was addressing your front office the message would have been sent elsewhere. πŸ˜›

    As far as them coming out ahead, didn't the previous Butch Davis regime trade about 3 picks to move up one spot to get him? Pretty desperate, and no way they came close to breaking even. Not after they lost two whole years of production from him. The time is now. Hahaha!

    V Vegasdogg wrote on last edited by
    #30

    @kellen-rulez said:

    Pretty desperate, and no way they came close to breaking even.

    You could say that about the Bucs now.

    Tony Gonzales

    Jason Witten

    Antonio Gates

    Owen Daniels

    Dallas Clark

    Kellen Winslow

    Of these top TE's, what has their team done in the playoffs? Besides Dallas Clark, absolutely nothing. Zilch. Nada.

    Having a player like Winslow is a luxury, something the Bucs don't have.

    As far as them coming out ahead, didn't the previous Butch Davis regime trade about 3 picks to move up one spot to get him? Pretty desperate, and no way they came close to breaking even

    Are you fooking seriously pulling out that card? This from a team who gave Two 1sts and Two 2nds for a coach they just fired? Yeah, don't think they came out ahead on that trade, and they still haven't recovered from that stupidity.

  • @lumbergh said:

    neither you nor Flugel know what anybody's doing,

    @lumbergh said:

    NFL coaches seem to agree with me.

    Pot. This is kettle. You're black.

    Dude you don't seem to realize that nobody wants DA. There is not talk of any teams wanting him over Quinn. All of the football talk on all of the sites, radio stations, and NFL TV shows speak to teams wanting Quinn. Not DA.

    Damn you're just too dense.

    Riffer XR Riffer X wrote on last edited by Riffer X
    #31

    @vegasdogg said:

    Pot. This is kettle. You're black.

    Dude you don't seem to realize that nobody wants DA. There is not talk of any teams wanting him over Quinn. All of the football talk on all of the sites, radio stations, and NFL TV shows speak to teams wanting Quinn. Not DA.

    Damn you're just too dense.

    Lum is proving to be a pretty dumb motherfooker, and I gotta say I'm a little disappointed.

    Total toolpouch stupidity that boy is. Kinda Pittsburgese actually.