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  • roster bubbles & PS rules again, already.. be back after a sure head scratching headache 😛

  • Who makes it?

    QB- Griffin, McCown, Kessler, Davis, Shaw

    RB- Crowell, D.Johnson, Winston, Mostert, Watson

    WR- Hartline, Hawkins, Gabriel, Pryor, C.Coleman, Higgins, Louis, Payton, Jennings, Moore, Hall, (Gordon)

    TE- Barnidge, Bibbs, Telfer, Hamlett, Holtz

    FB/H-Back- DeValve, M.Johnson, Skov

    OT- Thomas, Bowie, Bailey, S.Coleman, Drango, France, Ladson, Miller

    OG- Bitonio, Greco, Pasztor, Gerhart K.Johnson, Boffeli

    C- Erving, Matthews

    DT- Shelton, Meder, Hughes, Lawrence-Stample, Rose

    DE- D.Bryant, Cooper, Wynn, Nassib

    OLB- Kruger, Orchard, Mingo, A.Bryant, Ogbah, Jeffcoat, C.Johnson

    ILB- Davis, Kirksey, Carder, Tuggle, Schobert, Wright, Alexander

    CB- Haden, T.Williams, K.Williams, Desir, Gilbert, Gaines, Taylor, Jones, Baker, Scott, Dennis, Everette

    S- Campbell, Moore, Poyer, Kindred, Stamps, Howard

    LS- Hughlett

    K- Coons, Craddock

    P- Lee

    @thenew23 said:

    Who makes it?

    QB- Griffin, McCown, Kessler, Davis, Shaw

    Prediction - we only carry 2 QBs; McCown will either be traded or cut at the 53.

    RB- Crowell, D.Johnson, Winston, Mostert, Watson

    Winston was Farmer's pet RB, this regime has no attachment to him; Mostert stays for return game

    WR- Hartline, Hawkins, Gabriel, Pryor, C.Coleman, Higgins, Louis, Payton, Jennings, Moore, Hall, (Gordon)

    Pryor is in as the third QB option (having experienced Hue's system in OAK and Cinci). If Gordon is returned from the abyss, he takes the place of Hartline.

    TE- Barnidge, Bibbs, Telfer, Hamlett, Holtz

    Difficult to guess, and probably these guys are merged with the below, and you pick any two behind Barnidge.

    FB/H-Back- DeValve, M.Johnson, Skov

    OT- Thomas, Bowie, Bailey, S.Coleman, Drango, France, Ladson, Miller

    OG- Bitonio, Greco, Pasztor, Gerhart K.Johnson, Boffeli

    C- Erving, Matthews

    Drango projects inside; Bailey is a swing tackle backup; Pasztor gives extra insurance at RT in a pinch; Matthews is possibly odd man out in numbers game. Starting OL: JT, Bitonio, Erving, Greco, Coleman

    Who's Johnson?

    DT- Shelton, Meder, Hughes, Lawrence-Stample, Rose

    We'll keep those three - maybe Hughes goes; the two UDFAs, who knows what'll happen.

    DE- D.Bryant, Cooper, Wynn, Nassib

    Hughes probably ends up as an end here

    OLB- Kruger, Orchard, Mingo, A.Bryant, Ogbah, C.Johnson

    Who's Johnson?

    ILB- Davis, Kirksey, Jeffcoat, Carder, Tuggle, Schobert, Wright, Alexander

    Davis and Kirksey to start, Tuggle and Scoobs to back up, and schobert to swing from inside to out.

    CB- Haden, T.Williams, K.Williams, Desir, Gilbert, Gaines, Taylor, Caldwell, Jones, Baker, Scott, Dennis, Everette

    This group is largely the same as last year.

    S- Campbell, Moore, Poyer, Kindred, Stamps, Howard

    Pryor or Moore will be an interesting battle at FS. I have high hopes for Campbell at SS.

    LS- Hughlett

    K- Coons, Craddock

    P- Lee

  • No earthy idea but the shakeup of vets continues as a record # of rookies stay. It's just moneyball and cheapest win out when skills or lack thereof are close to the same.

  • Don' know, but you have Ogbah listed as an OLB.....I think he will be a DE

    And you have Schobert as an ILB.....I thought he played mostly on the outside.

  • Don' know, but you have Ogbah listed as an OLB.....I think he will be a DE

    And you have Schobert as an ILB.....I thought he played mostly on the outside.

    @the-gipper said:

    Don' know, but you have Ogbah listed as an OLB.....I think he will be a DE

    And you have Schobert as an ILB.....I thought he played mostly on the outside.

    Went through this with Zombo, Ogbah will be an OLB in a 3-4.

  • See the roster for further confirmation, they have him listed as LB

    http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/team/roster.html

  • QB- Griffin, McCown, Kessler, Davis, Shaw

    RB- Crowell, D.Johnson, Winston, Mostert, Watson

    WR- Hartline, Hawkins, Gabriel, Pryor, C.Coleman, Higgins, Louis, Payton, Jennings, Moore, Hall, (Gordon)

    TE- Barnidge, Bibbs, Telfer, Hamlett, Holtz

    FB/H-Back- DeValve, M.Johnson, Skov

    OT- Thomas, Bowie, Bailey, S.Coleman, Drango, France, Ladson, Miller

    OG- Bitonio, Greco, Pasztor, Gerhart K.Johnson, Boffeli

    C- Erving, Matthews

    DT- Shelton, Meder, Hughes, Lawrence-Stample, Rose

    DE- D.Bryant, Cooper, Wynn, Nassib

    OLB- Kruger, Orchard, Mingo, A.Bryant, Ogbah, C.Johnson

    ILB- Davis, Kirksey, Jeffcoat, Carder, Tuggle, Schobert, Wright, Alexander

    CB- Haden, T.Williams, K.Williams, Desir, Gilbert, Gaines, Taylor, Jones, Baker, Scott, Dennis, Everette

    S- Campbell, Moore, Poyer, Kindred, Stamps, Howard

    LS- Hughlett
    K- Coons, Craddock
    P- Lee

  • Zombo... you cut Scooby?!!

    Say it ain't so....

  • Zombo... you cut Scooby?!!

    Say it ain't so....

    @poeticg said:

    Zombo... you cut Scooby?!!

    Say it ain't so....

    Didn't recognize his last name, lol.

    Him over Tuggle.

    Zombo

  • Who makes it?
    QB- Griffin, McCown, Kessler(PS)
    RB- Crowell, D.Johnson, Mostert, Watson(PS)
    WR- Hartline, Hawkins, Pryor, C.Coleman, Higgins(PS), Louis(PS), Payton.
    TE- Barnidge, Telfer
    FB/H-Back- DeValve
    OT- Thomas, Bailey, S.Coleman
    OG- Bitonio, Greco, Pasztor C- Erving, Matthews (PS)
    DT- Shelton, Meder, Lawrence-Stample (PS)
    DE- D.Bryant, Cooper, Nassib
    OLB- Kruger, Orchard, Mingo, Ogbah.
    ILB- Davis, Kirksey, Jeffcoat (IR), Schobert, Wright, Alexander(PS)
    CB- Haden, T.Williams, K.Williams, Desir, Gilbert, J. Taylor.
    S- Campbell, Moore, Poyer, Kindred
    LS- Hughlett
    K- Not on Roster
    P- Lee

  • @poeticg said:

    Zombo... you cut Scooby?!!

    Say it ain't so....

    Didn't recognize his last name, lol.

    Him over Tuggle.

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    Didn't recognize his last name, lol.

    Him over Tuggle.

    Zombo

    Good shit.

  • http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/nfl/cardinals/2016/05/09/cardinals-were-close-landing-ex-arizona-linebacker-scooby-wright/84138548/

    How close were the Cardinals to adding former Arizona standout linebacker Scooby Wright to their roster?

    Oh so close.

    There were 253 picks in the 2016 NFL draft. Wright was No. 250 selected by Cleveland.

    Just minutes before the pick, Cardinals coach Bruce Arians was having a conversation with Wright.

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    “Scooby’s a great blitzer, and I actually had Scooby on the phone, begging him to come with us as a free agent because I think he has something special about him, and the Browns drafted him,” Arians said recently during promotions for the second annual Arians Family Foundation Fundraiser at Steak 44.

    When Wright got the call from the Browns, he started crying, ran into the backyard of his father’s Santa Rosa, Calif., home and took a flying leap, over a fence and head-first into a pool.

    The Santa Rosa Press-Democrat reported that Wright was “about to call the Arizona Cardinals and tell them he would accept their free agent offer, almost certain he would go undrafted.”

    So close.

    MORE: Stakes raised for Rodriguez, Graham this season

    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Even though Arizona is my birthplace, the Browns are my home. I'm glad we got Scooby, they got Tyrann a couple years ago, a player I was begging us to get... and we got leon McFadden?

  • Hard to read the posts where you don't include who didn't make it, FYI.

    Is Jeffcoat really an inside guy now or am I correct that that's a mistake?

    I have no idea whether Matthews can play guard or not. Knowing that makes those decisions a little easier.

  • Hard to read the posts where you don't include who didn't make it, FYI.

    Is Jeffcoat really an inside guy now or am I correct that that's a mistake?

    I have no idea whether Matthews can play guard or not. Knowing that makes those decisions a little easier.

    @wargograw said:

    Hard to read the posts where you don't include who didn't make it, FYI.

    Is Jeffcoat really an inside guy now or am I correct that that's a mistake?

    I have no idea whether Matthews can play guard or not. Knowing that makes those decisions a little easier.

    Hes OLB. I will fix the OP.

    Ogbah will be a OLB project, but Nassib will likely gain weight and play end.

    Schobert projects as a versatile OLB/ILB which will make him very valuable

    Why all the love for UDFA Matthews? Other than the obvious love for the family ties, we drafted 14 guys... That doesnt leave much room for an undrafted player... Just sayin...

    Good stuff so far... Wayyyy to early for any of us to even have a clue... About any position, except maybe our punter...

  • Also, I could see Armonty go back to the 5-tech under Horton. I believe it was Pettine that tried to turn him into a LB. He's more of a nickel DE on passing downs IMHO... No coverage skills

  • Matthews was first team All-SEC on PFF grades last year, ahead of even Ryan Kelly, and that was under a position coach so bad he was fired after one year.

    He also came from an offense that didn't suit his lack of length because we (A&M) use big splits so he's blocking a lot of guys by himself. There's also shorter DTs in college and believe it or not, shorter DTs expose a center's lack of length more than taller ones. As a down blocker and/or double teamer, Matthews is much better. That's what he'll be doing in our (Browns) offense.

    For comparison, Patrick Lewis was our last center. He was also 6'1-2", like Mike. He struggled quite a bit with SEC DTs in Sumlin's first year which was Lewis' last year. He too went undrafted but is now a starting center in the NFL.

    Plus the jury is definitely out on Erving.

  • @poeticg said:

    Zombo... you cut Scooby?!!

    Say it ain't so....

    Didn't recognize his last name, lol.

    Him over Tuggle.

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    Didn't recognize his last name, lol.

    Him over Tuggle.

    Zombo

    I also think Drango lands a spot

  • Zombo said:

    Didn't recognize his last name, lol.

    Him over Tuggle.

    Zombo

    I also think Drango lands a spot

    @darren15 said:

    I also think Drango lands a spot

    Thinking we slip him on the IR for a year and redshirt him, and then next year he is unchained.

    Zombo

  • @darren15 said:

    I also think Drango lands a spot

    Thinking we slip him on the IR for a year and redshirt him, and then next year he is unchained.

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    Thinking we slip him on the IR for a year and redshirt him, and then next year he is unchained.

    Zombo

    exactly why I stuck with Pasztor on roster this season. Of course, till after next season, when Pasztor will be also unchained as a FA again.

  • Drango's hurt?