***Official Browns @ Bills Game Day Thread***
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I dont understand the fan base being in shock over a winless season when it was predicted. We knew it was gonna be an overhaul. The onlynthing that really incenses me is not using this season to grow. If they start rg again instead of seeing further whatbwe have in kessler or hogan, than this qb carousel will continue next season and thevresults will be the same. If we dont build a consistent def id then the results will also be the same on def next year.....and thats unacceptable.
Having a winless season is more stomachable to me then a cobbled 1-2 win season that leaves offseason question marks about team needs. If we committed to the 4-3 than we can just go out and get a 4-3 DE. Staying in this hybrid garbage brings in to question who we draft. Can allen play the 5 tech? Can garett standup? We do this shit every year. If we go to a 4-3 it doesnt really matter if we get allen or garett.
I dont understand the fan base being in shock over a winless season when it was predicted. We knew it was gonna be an overhaul. The onlynthing that really incenses me is not using this season to grow. If they start rg again instead of seeing further whatbwe have in kessler or hogan, than this qb carousel will continue next season and thevresults will be the same. If we dont build a consistent def id then the results will also be the same on def next year.....and thats unacceptable.
Having a winless season is more stomachable to me then a cobbled 1-2 win season that leaves offseason question marks about team needs. If we committed to the 4-3 than we can just go out and get a 4-3 DE. Staying in this hybrid garbage brings in to question who we draft. Can allen play the 5 tech? Can garett standup? We do this shit every year. If we go to a 4-3 it doesnt really matter if we get allen or garett.
Let me guess.... your daily number is 4-3-3-4?
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I dont understand the fan base being in shock over a winless season when it was predicted. We knew it was gonna be an overhaul. The onlynthing that really incenses me is not using this season to grow. If they start rg again instead of seeing further whatbwe have in kessler or hogan, than this qb carousel will continue next season and thevresults will be the same. If we dont build a consistent def id then the results will also be the same on def next year.....and thats unacceptable.
Having a winless season is more stomachable to me then a cobbled 1-2 win season that leaves offseason question marks about team needs. If we committed to the 4-3 than we can just go out and get a 4-3 DE. Staying in this hybrid garbage brings in to question who we draft. Can allen play the 5 tech? Can garett standup? We do this shit every year. If we go to a 4-3 it doesnt really matter if we get allen or garett.
Let me guess.... your daily number is 4-3-3-4?
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There was one moment, I think just after the first massively wayward pass (behind Duke) that the cameras cut to Pep Hamilton, and he was there with such a resigned look on his face, like he sees RG3 is wasted, a nothing.
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It's like a standard 4-3 and secondary, with three extra players so we can double team every tight end and running back, and make all the tackles the other guys miss?
What on God's green earth makes you think we could identify a TE to double team?
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What on God's green earth makes you think we could identify a TE to double team?
I thought our HC is a genius.
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I had such high hopes for Jimmah......but, wow.......not impressed
hey mud, i remember back in the summer on the board where everyone was discussing music opinions, you sent me a chicago video of "make me smile". well maybe this will make you smile and forget about jimmah and his clowns..Jan 1st on cnn there will be a documentary on chicago. I think at 8pm. Should be great...looking foward to it...Just wanted to let you know.
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There was one moment, I think just after the first massively wayward pass (behind Duke) that the cameras cut to Pep Hamilton, and he was there with such a resigned look on his face, like he sees RG3 is wasted, a nothing.
There was one moment, I think just after the first massively wayward pass (behind Duke) that the cameras cut to Pep Hamilton, and he was there with such a resigned look on his face, like he sees RG3 is wasted, a nothing.
what the fuck is a pep hamilton....guess i don't keep up with the assistant coachies as i should...but really, do i want to...
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There was one moment, I think just after the first massively wayward pass (behind Duke) that the cameras cut to Pep Hamilton, and he was there with such a resigned look on his face, like he sees RG3 is wasted, a nothing.
what the fuck is a pep hamilton....guess i don't keep up with the assistant coachies as i should...but really, do i want to...
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This question just struck me...
Have we won a game since BrownsDawgPound took over OP'ing the weekly "Official" game thread?
This question just struck me...
Have we won a game since BrownsDawgPound took over OP'ing the weekly "Official" game thread?
Not sure, but it is safe to say his overall record is not goo.
Maybe we should revolt next week and start a parallel thread. I'm sure we would win then.
Zombo
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There was one moment, I think just after the first massively wayward pass (behind Duke) that the cameras cut to Pep Hamilton, and he was there with such a resigned look on his face, like he sees RG3 is wasted, a nothing.
There was one moment, I think just after the first massively wayward pass (behind Duke) that the cameras cut to Pep Hamilton, and he was there with such a resigned look on his face,
Yup.
And almost every other time they show the sidelines it's Hue shaking his head at what he just saw.
A lotta head shaking going on on our sidelines.
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There was one moment, I think just after the first massively wayward pass (behind Duke) that the cameras cut to Pep Hamilton, and he was there with such a resigned look on his face, like he sees RG3 is wasted, a nothing.
There was one moment, I think just after the first massively wayward pass (behind Duke) that the cameras cut to Pep Hamilton, and he was there with such a resigned look on his face, like he sees RG3 is wasted, a nothing.
Ha!...yeah, they showed several similar looks throughout the game.....coaches are clearly frustrated......as they should be....
hey mud, i remember back in the summer on the board where everyone was discussing music opinions, you sent me a chicago video of "make me smile". well maybe this will make you smile and forget about jimmah and his clowns..Jan 1st on cnn there will be a documentary on chicago. I think at 8pm. Should be great...looking foward to it...Just wanted to let you know.
Awesome......Ill be sure to check it out....thanks for the heads up////
This question just struck me...
Have we won a game since BrownsDawgPound took over OP'ing the weekly "Official" game thread?
Ahhhhh.....finally I have someone to blame......BDP better watch out...!
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What kind of bizarro world is this.. Cam Erving was PFF's highest rated Browns O player vs the Bills, higher than even JT with an 81.2..
What kind of bizarro world is this.. Cam Erving was PFF's highest rated Browns O player vs the Bills, higher than even JT with an 81.2..
How many times do i have to say it, PFF are trolling us
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What kind of bizarro world is this.. Cam Erving was PFF's highest rated Browns O player vs the Bills, higher than even JT with an 81.2..
How many times do i have to say it, PFF are trolling us
How many times do i have to say it, PFF are trolling us
17....and, even after that, some wont get your point.....
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How many times do i have to say it, PFF are trolling us
17....and, even after that, some wont get your point.....
17....and, even after that, some wont get your point.....
You get me though right? I mean now they're telling us cam erving is grading out tops. I would love to take a look at their metrics sometime. Its like they give browns players points for a well pressed uni and properly affixed chin strap. It seriously the most vexing shit ive ever encountered and i was exposed to stats for business and marketing. I just dont see how these pff clowns are ascribing their attributes. Cause if u look at the tape and give a player a 1 for blocking his man or a 0 for getting beat, than avg'ing that against the rest of the league at that position.....there is no possible way our o line is grading high with the exception of JT.
I get it, its more complicated than 0's and 1's cause how long did the qb hold the ball....was that rusher supposed to be picked up by a RB etc, etc. Im just beside myself tho how people can watch browns ol diving backwards at the ankles of guys they were supposed to keep infront of them, and say something like "oh that was a tricky stunting def tackle so we're gonna give partial credit here"
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17....and, even after that, some wont get your point.....
You get me though right? I mean now they're telling us cam erving is grading out tops. I would love to take a look at their metrics sometime. Its like they give browns players points for a well pressed uni and properly affixed chin strap. It seriously the most vexing shit ive ever encountered and i was exposed to stats for business and marketing. I just dont see how these pff clowns are ascribing their attributes. Cause if u look at the tape and give a player a 1 for blocking his man or a 0 for getting beat, than avg'ing that against the rest of the league at that position.....there is no possible way our o line is grading high with the exception of JT.
I get it, its more complicated than 0's and 1's cause how long did the qb hold the ball....was that rusher supposed to be picked up by a RB etc, etc. Im just beside myself tho how people can watch browns ol diving backwards at the ankles of guys they were supposed to keep infront of them, and say something like "oh that was a tricky stunting def tackle so we're gonna give partial credit here"
You get me though right? I mean now they're telling us cam erving is grading out tops. I would love to take a look at their metrics sometime. Its like they give browns players points for a well pressed uni and properly affixed chin strap. It seriously the most vexing shit ive ever encountered and i was exposed to stats for business and marketing. I just dont see how these pff clowns are ascribing their attributes. Cause if u look at the tape and give a player a 1 for blocking his man or a 0 for getting beat, than avg'ing that against the rest of the league at that position.....there is no possible way our o line is grading high with the exception of JT.
I get it, its more complicated than 0's and 1's cause how long did the qb hold the ball....was that rusher supposed to be picked up by a RB etc, etc. Im just beside myself tho how people can watch browns ol diving backwards at the ankles of guys they were supposed to keep infront of them, and say something like "oh that was a tricky stunting def tackle so we're gonna give partial credit here"
Well...I think they are just saying Cam had a good game.....
PFF has a lot of good stuff and great stats that you wont find elsewhere.....the problems come in when people mis-use the information and mis-understand the ratings and what they mean.....too many just grab a score and declare this guy is terrible or great, w/o understanding where it comes from or what it means....
So...to me...PFF is a great tool, but not to be taken as gospel(which way too many people and writers do).....
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I'm sure Jimmy already knows. He's at the games when there are more of the visitors fans there then his teams fans. And the stadium is half emptyIt isn't a celebration at all. It's group therapy, it's a session of mourning.
It's also a giant flag in the face of Haslam that he is responsible for the mess the Browns are in.
I'm sure Jimmy already knows. He's at the games when there are more of the visitors fans there then his teams fans. And the stadium is half empty
well I am sure the other owners are glad someone is showing up at the games
makes ya wonder how long it will take them to force haslem to move the team
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