Buckeyes

[Clevfan4life]

There isnt a single player on that offense i want anywhete near a browns uni. They sucked all year and the time off sincevthe Mi game did shit for them. I knew this would happen if the same offense came to play tonight. The def is the only reason OSU had a season to speak of. This was a shitshow tonight

[mjp28]

@clevfan4life said:

There isnt a single player on that offense i want anywhete near a browns uni. They sucked all year and the time off sincevthe Mi game did shit for them. I knew this would happen if the same offense came to play tonight. The def is the only reason OSU had a season to speak of. This was a shitshow tonight

To tell the truth I thought they'd win 9 maybe 10 games this year basically a rebuilding year after stocking the NFL last year round after round.

Amazing how spoiled we all can get.

[Axe]

Clemson 31---- Frauds 0

lol

[Clevfan4life]

@mjp28 said:

To tell the truth I thought they'd win 9 maybe 10 games this year basically a rebuilding year after stocking the NFL last year round after round.

Amazing how spoiled we all can get.

I would have rather watched them lose 5-6 games but start building the foundations of another playoff juggernaut then basically hang their hats on the defense while playing the most awful unwatcheable offense i may have ever seen. And im a browns fan i "know" what shit offense looks and feels like. But i'd rather sit through another 1-15 browns season than watch a buckeyes offense run the same 5-8 plays for an entire year.

Im a defense guy so watching this amazing buckeye defense get wasted by a mind numbingly stupid offense was hard to watch all year. I mean even games they won you could just tell this offense was gonna butt fuck the defense the minute they faced a competent defensive team. Barrett....omg........no joke i would sooner resign JM than draft barett. Worst QB ive ever seen.

[Clevfan4life]

@axe said:

Clemson 31---- Frauds 0

lol

The defense was not fraudulent

[MLD Woody]

Bummer

[mjp28]

Well it's 2017 how many days until "The Game"? Will "m" actually think that they can actually win?

Oh geezz us it's going to be a long offseason but we have the BROWNS Draft and the AL CHAMPION CLEVELAND INDIANS to look forward to and very soon.

HAPPY NEW YEAR y'all!

[mjp28]

@axe said:

Clemson 31---- Frauds 0

lol

And 11-2 is no fraud.

When PSU loses to USC it will be the best record in the BIG TEN!

[hoorta]

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

They suck

Yes, they sucked. MHO- not ready for prime time. What I learned- keep FAR away form Deshawn Watson. Third round pick sounds about right. We already have his clone on the Browns in Griffin. Mediocre- I can't even begin to describe as an NFL qb prospect.

[miktoxic]

Urban Meyer hasn't produced a NFL caliber QB ever.

[mjp28]

@miktoxic said:

Urban Meyer hasn't produced a NFL caliber QB ever.

And yet he has an amazing lifetime coaching record including three National Championships.

You don't necessarily have to have a prototypical NFL quarterback to win NCAA Championships or Heisman trophies, it's been done many, many times.

And who says Tebow isn't an NFL QB.

[Zombo]

@miktoxic said:

Urban Meyer hasn't produced a NFL caliber QB ever.

I think that is a feather in his cap.

He's not there to produce NFL QBs, he is there to win college football games.

Three championships, three different QBs.

Zombo

[Flugel]

@gumby73 said:

Malik Hooker stock up

You bet Gumby! Although it's been up all year with me. I could really dig 3 pic 6's and a conference leading INT volume from 1 of our Safeties.

[LondonBrown]

@hoorta said:

Yes, they sucked. MHO- not ready for prime time. What I learned- keep FAR away form Deshawn Watson. Third round pick sounds about right. We already have his clone on the Browns in Griffin. Mediocre- I can't even begin to describe as an NFL qb prospect.

I took that from the game as well, no no no

[Mudfly]

@miktoxic said:

Urban Meyer hasn't produced a NFL caliber QB ever.

.851 all-time winning percentage.....w/o a star QB....

anyone who wins national championships with a 3rd string QB and Tim Tebow, has to be the greatest coach....everrrrrr

[Flugel]

Zombo said:

I think that is a feather in his cap.

He's not there to produce NFL QBs, he is there to win college football games.

Three championships, three different QBs.

Zombo

Exactly!

[Flugel]

@mudfly said:

.851 all-time winning percentage.....w/o a star QB....

anyone who wins national championships with a 3rd string QB and Tim Tebow, has to be the greatest coach....everrrrrr

Well said Mud!

[Tour2ma]

Shocked at the poor showing, but credit to Clemson. I am actually looking forward to a competitive Championship game.

Hooker and McMillan both balled out. Clemson simply dominated the trenches both ways.

[Flugel]

@mjp28 said:

And yet he has an amazing lifetime coaching record including three National Championships.

You don't necessarily have to have a prototypical NFL quarterback to win NCAA Championships or Heisman trophies, it's been done many, many times.

And who says Tebow isn't an NFL QB.

True. Like some of you guys are saying, college coaches aren't being paid to train QBs for the NFL. They're paid to win with a lot of offenses that aren't compatible for the more complex/complicated NFL schemes in football life after. This is a big reason the supply for our demand doesn't look all that sexy to some of us.

I watched a ND game earlier in the year where the QB that was better wired for the NFL (Kizer) took a backseat in reps to some QB that was better suited to run the option. The option QB didn't even do that well enough to remember his name the night I saw him.

[BaconHound]

Urban's success without an NFL QB just strengthens my belief that offense in college football doesn't resemble the NFL