Greg Williams Hired
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Tony Grossi tweeted. . .
Told Gregg Williams will be bringing assts. Brandon Fisher, Dennard Wilson & Blake Williams to #Browns. Possibly more.
Tony Grossi tweeted. . .
Told Gregg Williams will be bringing assts. Brandon Fisher, Dennard Wilson & Blake Williams to #Browns. Possibly more.
Fischer - Secondary
Wilson - Secondary
Blake Williams - not currently listed with Rams staff, but appears to be Gregg's son, and...
HAMMOND, La. – Former St. Louis Rams defensive coordinator Blake Williams has accepted the same position for two-time Southland Conference champion Southeastern Louisiana, Lion head coach Ron Roberts announced on Tuesday.
Williams' hire is pending the approval of the University of Louisiana System Board of Supervisors. Williams replaces Karl Scott, now the safeties coach at Louisiana Tech.
"Blake is going to be a tremendous addition to our staff," Roberts commented. "He brings with him a wealth of experience as a coach at the professional level, as well as playing experience from his time at Princeton. Blake shares the same philosophy that we do, so we expect to be very similar on defense in 2015. But, Blake is going to bring a fresh perspective that is going to be a plus for our program."
Williams was brought in as the linebacker coach with the 2012 Rams, before taking over as defensive coordinator for his father, Gregg. Under Williams' tutelage, St. Louis ranked No. 15 in the NFL against both the run and the pass, while also ranking in the top half of the league with 21.8 points per game allowed.
http://www.lionsports.net/news/2015/2/24/FB_0224155208.aspx
lol... another Ivy-leaguer joining the fold...
So he seems to have been "in" while Dad served his indefinite suspension. Maybe the Rams had nepotism issues/rules. However...
PFR seems at odds with the article listing no DC for the 2012 season and Tim Walton as the 2013 before Gregg arrived in 2014.
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I'm going to call it right now that next year we have a top 10 defense in points allowed.
I'm going to call it right now that next year we have a top 10 defense in points allowed.
Omg dude stop. It would be his 1st year c'mon. Theres gonna be "alot" of guys leaving cause they dontbfit the 4-3
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Tony Grossi tweeted. . .
Told Gregg Williams will be bringing assts. Brandon Fisher, Dennard Wilson & Blake Williams to #Browns. Possibly more.
Fischer - Secondary
Wilson - Secondary
Blake Williams - not currently listed with Rams staff, but appears to be Gregg's son, and...
HAMMOND, La. – Former St. Louis Rams defensive coordinator Blake Williams has accepted the same position for two-time Southland Conference champion Southeastern Louisiana, Lion head coach Ron Roberts announced on Tuesday.
Williams' hire is pending the approval of the University of Louisiana System Board of Supervisors. Williams replaces Karl Scott, now the safeties coach at Louisiana Tech.
"Blake is going to be a tremendous addition to our staff," Roberts commented. "He brings with him a wealth of experience as a coach at the professional level, as well as playing experience from his time at Princeton. Blake shares the same philosophy that we do, so we expect to be very similar on defense in 2015. But, Blake is going to bring a fresh perspective that is going to be a plus for our program."
Williams was brought in as the linebacker coach with the 2012 Rams, before taking over as defensive coordinator for his father, Gregg. Under Williams' tutelage, St. Louis ranked No. 15 in the NFL against both the run and the pass, while also ranking in the top half of the league with 21.8 points per game allowed.
http://www.lionsports.net/news/2015/2/24/FB_0224155208.aspx
lol... another Ivy-leaguer joining the fold...
So he seems to have been "in" while Dad served his indefinite suspension. Maybe the Rams had nepotism issues/rules. However...
PFR seems at odds with the article listing no DC for the 2012 season and Tim Walton as the 2013 before Gregg arrived in 2014.
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I like it, one of the better choices.
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I'm going to call it right now that next year we have a top 10 defense in points allowed.
Omg dude stop. It would be his 1st year c'mon. Theres gonna be "alot" of guys leaving cause they dontbfit the 4-3
there should be a lot of guys leaving anyway. They can't playOmg dude stop. It would be his 1st year c'mon. Theres gonna be "alot" of guys leaving cause they dontbfit the 4-3
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We may not have a whole lot of players that he likes or can work with. I mean these guys dont like to wrap up we've been screaming about this for awile now. The def production may not be substantially better next year, he may offload "alot" of guys after next season.
Can u guys handle that ir is it gonna be fire thst williams hack by game 3 or 4?
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there should be a lot of guys leaving anyway. They can't playOmg dude stop. It would be his 1st year c'mon. Theres gonna be "alot" of guys leaving cause they dontbfit the 4-3
there should be a lot of guys leaving anyway. They can't play
Some truth to that
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Which players are you talking about?
"You see the Rams are still thinking that they are playing Tony Dorsett" -Jim Brown 1978 -
Williams works for me...
I don't necessarily see the increased preference for Allen over Garrett in the 4-3 look others do, however. Allen just has the look of a traditional 3-4 DE to me while Garrett with his hand primarily in the dirt as a 4-3 edge guy removes my concerns there. This is the role OAK emphasized for Khalil this season. In his three seasons he's gone from primarily a stand-up OLB to a DE/OLB split to primarily a DE.
For those when a better attuned eye for DL schemes than I have.... I assume Shelton primarily takes an A gap putting Allen over the opposite OG? If so, then I can see Allen as a modern-day Michael Dean Perry aside Danny's James Jones or Bill Johnson.
I will say that Allen's persona would seem to be better aligned with Williams' than Myles the Mild's would be...
Also occurs to me that practicing against Williams' "style" could inject added "nasty" into our OL...
Williams works for me...
I don't necessarily see the increased preference for Allen over Garrett in the 4-3 look others do, however. Allen just has the look of a traditional 3-4 DE to me while Garrett with his hand primarily in the dirt as a 4-3 edge guy removes my concerns there. This is the role OAK emphasized for Khalil this season. In his three seasons he's gone from primarily a stand-up OLB to a DE/OLB split to primarily a DE.
For those when a better attuned eye for DL schemes than I have.... I assume Shelton primarily takes an A gap putting Allen over the opposite OG? If so, then I can see Allen as a modern-day Michael Dean Perry aside Danny's James Jones or Bill Johnson.
I will say that Allen's persona would seem to be better aligned with Williams' than Myles the Mild's would be...
Also occurs to me that practicing against Williams' "style" could inject added "nasty" into our OL...
Why would you not want allen on the tackles outside shoulder? We have a really good interior rotation webdont need allen at DT. Now in some nascar packages sure, we would have og and nas outside and bryant/allen inside. Love that.
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Williams works for me...
I don't necessarily see the increased preference for Allen over Garrett in the 4-3 look others do, however. Allen just has the look of a traditional 3-4 DE to me while Garrett with his hand primarily in the dirt as a 4-3 edge guy removes my concerns there. This is the role OAK emphasized for Khalil this season. In his three seasons he's gone from primarily a stand-up OLB to a DE/OLB split to primarily a DE.
For those when a better attuned eye for DL schemes than I have.... I assume Shelton primarily takes an A gap putting Allen over the opposite OG? If so, then I can see Allen as a modern-day Michael Dean Perry aside Danny's James Jones or Bill Johnson.
I will say that Allen's persona would seem to be better aligned with Williams' than Myles the Mild's would be...
Also occurs to me that practicing against Williams' "style" could inject added "nasty" into our OL...
Williams works for me...
I don't necessarily see the increased preference for Allen over Garrett in the 4-3 look others do, however. Allen just has the look of a traditional 3-4 DE to me while Garrett with his hand primarily in the dirt as a 4-3 edge guy removes my concerns there. This is the role OAK emphasized for Khalil this season. In his three seasons he's gone from primarily a stand-up OLB to a DE/OLB split to primarily a DE.
For those when a better attuned eye for DL schemes than I have.... I assume Shelton primarily takes an A gap putting Allen over the opposite OG? If so, then I can see Allen as a modern-day Michael Dean Perry aside Danny's James Jones or Bill Johnson.
I will say that Allen's persona would seem to be better aligned with Williams' than Myles the Mild's would be...
Also occurs to me that practicing against Williams' "style" could inject added "nasty" into our OL...
Depends on what you're trying to exploit. If you see the center has issues anchoring or with protection calls, you can run a double A gap look. You can go with Danny at the traditional 1 still holding the double team and that would leave Allen at the 3-5 spot doing what he does best.
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We may not have a whole lot of players that he likes or can work with. I mean these guys dont like to wrap up we've been screaming about this for awile now. The def production may not be substantially better next year, he may offload "alot" of guys after next season.
Can u guys handle that ir is it gonna be fire thst williams hack by game 3 or 4?
From all the quotes I keep reading about Williams. He seems to scheme toward his players strengths. He's not a guy who says "run it my way".We may not have a whole lot of players that he likes or can work with. I mean these guys dont like to wrap up we've been screaming about this for awile now. The def production may not be substantially better next year, he may offload "alot" of guys after next season.
Can u guys handle that ir is it gonna be fire thst williams hack by game 3 or 4?
The only problem with that is, you are correct, we don't have much talent for Williams to start with.
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Which players are you talking about?
Which players are you talking about?
There are more guys on that defense that should go away then we should keep
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Which players are you talking about?
Which players are you talking about?
Basically the entire seconday. If he watches tape of collins getting washed over on to his ass by a one hand slap from a 2nd string ol....he might tell them not to give collins that contract he's looking for. The lb'ers might stay for now but they'll be on a leash....im not sure they're mean enough for him. He prob would have loved scooby. Front 4 prob stays for now but og and nas will have to get alot stronger and meaner in the offseason
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Why doesn't he do his coaching job and improve them? That's why Horton has gone, because he couldn't.
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stupid thread
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@ghoolie said:
You are a fucking idiot. Horton gave Hue the defense Hue asked for. Assistants are coffee fetchers. he defense is on Hue.
NO DIFFERENCE IN 2017.
GHOOLIE GUARANTEE
You "may" be right but not because of the DC....because we currently dont have the players are goid/mean enough to matter. Anybody think bountygate williams is gonna relate to some of these fgts that dont like to get their jerseys dirty?
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@ghoolie said:
You are a fucking idiot. Horton gave Hue the defense Hue asked for. Assistants are coffee fetchers. he defense is on Hue.
NO DIFFERENCE IN 2017.
GHOOLIE GUARANTEE
Your absolutely right Horton was completely on Hue. This DC is a pure FO decision. Williams has more HC experience than Hue. And if the team should falter he will replace hue at the bye... That's why we only looked at DC's with HC experience... Williams is not Hue's "Type" of coach anyway.
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Anybody watching the steelers game, that dolphins D is precisely the kind of 4-3 i dont want. Its predicated on going after the qb cause its a "passing league". So they've got these DE's that look real nice in cutoffs but they dont deal well at the point. They got a decent mlb'er in alonso but he aint a hitter. 4-3's like what carolina was the other year or the bengals....its about the players.
Just running a 4-3 doesnt mean shit if the niggas aint nasty. Gotta have a D front that is disciplined against the run. And we have to have at least one LB'er that tries to kill the ball carrier on every play. Dudes going across the middle always have one eye on where burfict is. Thats what i want in clev.
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@ghoolie said:
You are a fucking idiot. Horton gave Hue the defense Hue asked for. Assistants are coffee fetchers. he defense is on Hue.
NO DIFFERENCE IN 2017.
GHOOLIE GUARANTEE
Your absolutely right Horton was completely on Hue. This DC is a pure FO decision. Williams has more HC experience than Hue. And if the team should falter he will replace hue at the bye... That's why we only looked at DC's with HC experience... Williams is not Hue's "Type" of coach anyway.
Your absolutely right Horton was completely on Hue. This DC is a pure FO decision. Williams has more HC experience than Hue. And if the team should falter he will replace hue at the bye... That's why we only looked at DC's with HC expe.. Williams is not Hue's "Type" of coach anyway.
It certainly sounds as if hue wanted horton gone. Its been in the back of my mind that the nas and og drafts were maybe more hues idea cause he was trying to push horton to run more 4-3 looks. Now we get a full time 4-3 guy that will stock 4-3 edge guys and lb'ets.
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I think the Browns are a lock to get Allen at one. It makes no sense to me that they would pick someone else.
He's a one man wrecking crew, and with a four three, they have to fix their rotation and starting unit.
The 12 pick is the tough one. But if Foster was there, I'd have to pick him.
But then I also want Hooker at fs. But then I wonder about moving Joe Haden to fs, more likely nickle back...?
and drafting the best cb available at 33.
This draft is really going to be GRRRRRRREAT !
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