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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #20

    Damn... I'd forgotten it was us that forced his OAK QB change...

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • OrionO Orion wrote on
    #21

    Browns WR Kenny Britt on DeShone Kizer: 'He's going to be one of the great ones'

    http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/07/browns_kenny_britt_on_deshone.html

    BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE
  • OrionO Orion

    Browns WR Kenny Britt on DeShone Kizer: 'He's going to be one of the great ones'

    http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/07/browns_kenny_britt_on_deshone.html

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #22

    @orion said:

    Browns WR Kenny Britt on DeShone Kizer: 'He's going to be one of the great ones'

    http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/07/browns_kenny_britt_on_deshone.html

    Oh, well, lets just get him sized up now.

    goldjacket.jpg

  • OrionO Orion wrote on
    #23

    Yeah, maybe Britt says that about ALL the boys....I don't know Britt from a snowbank. But he's been around a while and obviously played with a BUNCH of QB's. It's good to hear that he feels good about Kizer at this early stage.

    BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE
  • OrionO Orion

    Yeah, maybe Britt says that about ALL the boys....I don't know Britt from a snowbank. But he's been around a while and obviously played with a BUNCH of QB's. It's good to hear that he feels good about Kizer at this early stage.

    nickersN nickers wrote on
    #24

    @orion said:

    Yeah, maybe Britt says that about ALL the boys....I don't know Britt from a snowbank. But he's been around a while and obviously played with a BUNCH of QB's. It's good to hear that he feels good about Kizer at this early stage.

    How manny good QB's has Britt ever played with?

    Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
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  • nickersN nickers

    @orion said:

    Yeah, maybe Britt says that about ALL the boys....I don't know Britt from a snowbank. But he's been around a while and obviously played with a BUNCH of QB's. It's good to hear that he feels good about Kizer at this early stage.

    How manny good QB's has Britt ever played with?

    OrionO Orion wrote on
    #25

    @nickers said:

    How manny good QB's has Britt ever played with?

    Doesn't matter, he slept in a Holiday Inn Express the other night.

    BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #26

    If you read the article, then you'll see about three different conditional statements led by "if he keeps progressing."

    And if I had kept growing I might have been an NBA Center...

    But all-in-all it's better than Britt saying "He's terrible. He has no shot."

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  • Opal312O Opal312 wrote on
    #27

    I think Osweiler is trade bait, Kessler is too small and won't stay healthy. I predict Kizer is the starter long before the bye week. But it's too soon for a serious discussion considering Hue Jackson hasn't got a clue either.

    I need to see preseason games

    I still remember when Isiah Crowell came out of nowhere in the fourth preseason game his rookie year and he was undrafted.

    Anything can happen!

    GO BROWNS??? 8-8

    DAMN THE TORPEDOES! FULL SPEED AHEAD!
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  • Opal312O Opal312

    I think Osweiler is trade bait, Kessler is too small and won't stay healthy. I predict Kizer is the starter long before the bye week. But it's too soon for a serious discussion considering Hue Jackson hasn't got a clue either.

    I need to see preseason games

    I still remember when Isiah Crowell came out of nowhere in the fourth preseason game his rookie year and he was undrafted.

    Anything can happen!

    GO BROWNS??? 8-8

    OrionO Orion wrote on
    #28

    @opal312 said:

    I need to see preseason games

    Stop being sensible. 🙂

    Every year...from May to August...our team is vastly improved. The new guys are great and the old guys are better.

    THEN WE PLAY A PRESEASON GAME. And we all come crashing back down to earth. "We've got some things to clean up."

    THEN we play a regular season game...and it's 'Holy shit. We suck.'

    I think I read that it's been 13 years since we've won on opening day. - It feels longer than that.

    I said at the top of this thread, We'll only go as far as our QB can take us. And that's been pretty much true since our return. (except for the year that Dennis Northcutt dropped an EASY pass to keep us from winning our only playoff game)

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    Tour2maT 1 Reply
  • Mike HM Mike H wrote on
    #29

    Kizer should start the most games this year, if not all of them -- Can't really say all of them for a Browns QB, but yeah, if he's healthy he should. I think he will start Wk1 because he has more talent than Kessler, and Osweiler isn't in their plans.

    Z The GipperT 2 Replies
  • OrionO Orion

    @opal312 said:

    I need to see preseason games

    Stop being sensible. 🙂

    Every year...from May to August...our team is vastly improved. The new guys are great and the old guys are better.

    THEN WE PLAY A PRESEASON GAME. And we all come crashing back down to earth. "We've got some things to clean up."

    THEN we play a regular season game...and it's 'Holy shit. We suck.'

    I think I read that it's been 13 years since we've won on opening day. - It feels longer than that.

    I said at the top of this thread, We'll only go as far as our QB can take us. And that's been pretty much true since our return. (except for the year that Dennis Northcutt dropped an EASY pass to keep us from winning our only playoff game)

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #30

    What up, Mike...

    I've been more in the Kizer-later Camp, but have moved his 1st start up from Game 13 to Game 9, following the bye. Trying to strike a balance between getting him ready and seeing enough to evaluate him in live action. But if his progress being reported is real and continues, you may end up being right about Week 1.

    Osweiler's a tricky one... have to get him enough reps, good reps, to enhance his trade value without winning over our fan base.

    Going to be an interesting camp.

    @orion said:

    I said at the top of this thread, We'll only go as far as our QB can take us. And that's been pretty much true since our return. (except for the year that Dennis Northcutt dropped an EASY pass to keep us from winning our only playoff game)

    Really not sure when that last applied to us. We've had so many limiting factors since our return and they've not all been addressed going into 2017.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • nickersN nickers wrote on
    #31

    Kizer just does NOT excite me in anyway.. bah humbug...

    Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
  • Mike HM Mike H

    Kizer should start the most games this year, if not all of them -- Can't really say all of them for a Browns QB, but yeah, if he's healthy he should. I think he will start Wk1 because he has more talent than Kessler, and Osweiler isn't in their plans.

    Z Zombo wrote on
    #32

    @mike-h said:

    Kizer should start the most games this year, if not all of them -- Can't really say all of them for a Browns QB, but yeah, if he's healthy he should. I think he will start Wk1 because he has more talent than Kessler, and Osweiler isn't in their plans.

    I agree with this.

    Zombo

  • TopDawg31T TopDawg31 wrote on
    #33

    From what I saw at training camp, the QB race is a two horse race and Kessler is still stuck in his stall. Brock is ahead of all three, Kizer not too far behind. I could see Kizer passing Brock by the end of preseason. Kessler is still holding the ball too damn long. Brock throws are tight and on a rope with on time delivery. Kizer sails a few but get the majority where they need to be.

    Mike HM 1 Reply
  • OrionO Orion wrote on
    #34

    Thanks for the info TopDawg.

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  • Opal312O Opal312

    I think Osweiler is trade bait, Kessler is too small and won't stay healthy. I predict Kizer is the starter long before the bye week. But it's too soon for a serious discussion considering Hue Jackson hasn't got a clue either.

    I need to see preseason games

    I still remember when Isiah Crowell came out of nowhere in the fourth preseason game his rookie year and he was undrafted.

    Anything can happen!

    GO BROWNS??? 8-8

    sydS syd wrote on
    #35

    @opal312 said:

    I think Osweiler is trade bait, Kessler is too small and won't stay healthy. I predict Kizer is the starter long before the bye week. But it's too soon for a serious discussion considering Hue Jackson hasn't got a clue either.

    I need to see preseason games

    I still remember when Isiah Crowell came out of nowhere in the fourth preseason game his rookie year and he was undrafted.

    Anything can happen!

    GO BROWNS 8-8

    but didn't crow get into some kind of trouble in collage ? as to why he was not drafted

    Tour2maT 1 Reply
  • TopDawg31T TopDawg31

    From what I saw at training camp, the QB race is a two horse race and Kessler is still stuck in his stall. Brock is ahead of all three, Kizer not too far behind. I could see Kizer passing Brock by the end of preseason. Kessler is still holding the ball too damn long. Brock throws are tight and on a rope with on time delivery. Kizer sails a few but get the majority where they need to be.

    Mike HM Mike H wrote on
    #36

    @topdawg31 said:

    From what I saw at training camp, the QB race is a two horse race and Kessler is still stuck in his stall. Brock is ahead of all three, Kizer not too far behind. I could see Kizer passing Brock by the end of preseason. Kessler is still holding the ball too damn long. Brock throws are tight and on a rope with on time delivery. Kizer sails a few but get the majority where they need to be.

    Thanks for the report from the trenches.

    How many practices did you observe? Haven't heard many say Osweiler in the lead

  • sydS syd

    @opal312 said:

    I think Osweiler is trade bait, Kessler is too small and won't stay healthy. I predict Kizer is the starter long before the bye week. But it's too soon for a serious discussion considering Hue Jackson hasn't got a clue either.

    I need to see preseason games

    I still remember when Isiah Crowell came out of nowhere in the fourth preseason game his rookie year and he was undrafted.

    Anything can happen!

    GO BROWNS 8-8

    but didn't crow get into some kind of trouble in collage ? as to why he was not drafted

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #37

    @syd said:

    but didn't crow get into some kind of trouble in collage ? as to why he was not drafted

    Yup...

    Started at UGA... failed drug test... then arrested on felony "weapons charges". UGA kicked him. Charges were dropped later. Finished at Alabama State.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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  • Mike HM Mike H

    Kizer should start the most games this year, if not all of them -- Can't really say all of them for a Browns QB, but yeah, if he's healthy he should. I think he will start Wk1 because he has more talent than Kessler, and Osweiler isn't in their plans.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #38

    @mike-h said:

    Kizer should start the most games this year, if not all of them -- Can't really say all of them for a Browns QB, but yeah, if he's healthy he should. I think he will start Wk1 because he has more talent than Kessler, and Osweiler isn't in their plans.

    I go back to what I learned in law school about a portion of the Rule against Perpetuities: I take a Wait and See Approach.

    Mike HM 1 Reply
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @syd said:

    but didn't crow get into some kind of trouble in collage ? as to why he was not drafted

    Yup...

    Started at UGA... failed drug test... then arrested on felony "weapons charges". UGA kicked him. Charges were dropped later. Finished at Alabama State.

    IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on
    #39

    @tour2ma said:

    Yup...

    Started at UGA... failed drug test... then arrested on felony "weapons charges". UGA kicked him. Charges were dropped later. Finished at Alabama State.

    Even still he was regarded as a good pick up for a udfa that year, making a "top 5 udfa this year" type of list. If memory serves he didn't see a lot of action in preseason games 1-3 his first year, but then l guess the team got a good enough look at the other RBs by the time the 4th game came around and gave him a shot.

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