Well we knew this sht was coming....(darnold)
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A SoCal kid doesn't need a football reason to not want to live in NE Ohio... past September...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
A SoCal kid doesn't need a football reason to not want to live in NE Ohio... past September...
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Pussies,i love NE ohio seasons. Wut i hate are these slushy semi cold winters. It snows, then it melts in a day and turns to mud. When i was a kid we had right proper seasons......fukking global warming
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And ive lived in CA. Liked it, but lime ohio better.
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Tour, how has Drango filled in for Joe so far? I ask you because you seem to be the fella to ask on O line critiques.
Who cares? We're 0-10. Fire everyone amirite?
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Tour, how has Drango filled in for Joe so far? I ask you because you seem to be the fella to ask on O line critiques.
Who cares? We're 0-10. Fire everyone amirite?
Who cares? We're 0-10. Fire everyone amirite?
Seeing how players might perform for a competent coach and FO is important. I am beginning to think that you and Sashi are an item.
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#FireDrango
Don't say something like that. Drango might read it on the internet and just fall apart.
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Tour, how has Drango filled in for Joe so far? I ask you because you seem to be the fella to ask on O line critiques.
Pretty sure my answer would have been different had you asked this today...
A couple of the sacks he allowed weren't totally on him. Yes, the DE gained the edge on him, but Drango was still guiding the DE deeper and potentially around Kizer. IN the first instance Kizer stepped up... right into pressure up the middle. In the 2nd... the late strip-sack-botched-recovery-JAX-TD... Kizer could have stepped up but instead did the worst thing a QB can do. He drifted back and away from the pressure ensuring the speed rushing DE nails him.
Also I would not be surprised if Drango was not the worst graded OL this game. Zeitler was getting owned repeatedly... beaten by quick swims (early)... bulls middle... and a lot of stuff late.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
#FireDrango
Don't say something like that. Drango might read it on the internet and just fall apart.
Don't say something like that. Drango might read it on the internet and just fall apart.
Good thing I'm just quoting you. Let's draft all new linemen this year. They're 0-9.
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Tour, how has Drango filled in for Joe so far? I ask you because you seem to be the fella to ask on O line critiques.
Pretty sure my answer would have been different had you asked this today...
A couple of the sacks he allowed weren't totally on him. Yes, the DE gained the edge on him, but Drango was still guiding the DE deeper and potentially around Kizer. IN the first instance Kizer stepped up... right into pressure up the middle. In the 2nd... the late strip-sack-botched-recovery-JAX-TD... Kizer could have stepped up but instead did the worst thing a QB can do. He drifted back and away from the pressure ensuring the speed rushing DE nails him.
Also I would not be surprised if Drango was not the worst graded OL this game. Zeitler was getting owned repeatedly... beaten by quick swims (early)... bulls middle... and a lot of stuff late.
Kizer could have stepped up but instead did the worst thing a QB can do. He drifted back and away from the pressure ensuring the speed rushing DE nails him.
Would you say Kizer is growing and getting better, or getting worse as the season goes forward?
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Don't say something like that. Drango might read it on the internet and just fall apart.
Good thing I'm just quoting you. Let's draft all new linemen this year. They're 0-9.
Good thing I'm just quoting you. Let's draft all new linemen this year. They're 0-9.
You said to “Fire Drango”. He might not get the joke and fall into a deep state of despair.
Nah, players get cut or traded off when they stink at their job. Awful FO staff get to bomb on a historic level in Cleveland with no fear of getting fired.
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Would you say Kizer is growing and getting better, or getting worse as the season goes forward?
More like is stuck...stuck around a better level than he showed Games 1 thru 6 maybe, but with still a good ways to go.
Now this was a very good D today, maybe the best we've seen all year, but still...
One thing has been a constant all season is that his improved ball security in the pocket vanishes the second he begins to run. That is... his left hand comes off the ball with step one. Wasn't a factor in every fumble today, a couple were in the act of throwing, but a couple were due to this. The one that was scooped and should have been a score for the Jags was one example and there was a second that he ended up falling on and recovering himself.
Touch is another stuck area. While today he didn't really fastball anyone I can think of and even took a little off his TD to Duke (pass of the day), other "touch passes" were just inaccurate... and it seems the softer he throws it the less accurate it is. May be as simple as him aiming his off-speed stuff... something reps can cure. May be off-speed is just not natural to him... again reps can help here.
Pocket presence today was definitely not what we saw vs. the Lions... or Vikes. But again, may have been that D.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Good thing I'm just quoting you. Let's draft all new linemen this year. They're 0-9.
You said to “Fire Drango”. He might not get the joke and fall into a deep state of despair.
Nah, players get cut or traded off when they stink at their job. Awful FO staff get to bomb on a historic level in Cleveland with no fear of getting fired.
You said to “Fire Drango”. He might not get the joke and fall into a deep state of despair.
Nah, players get cut or traded off when they stink at their job. Awful FO staff get to bomb on a historic level in Cleveland with no fear of getting fired.
He'll get the joke. He's not as stupid as you.
Except that they're not bombing at all. If you could look past the record, you'd see that. Just like if you can watch Drango's play and judge him rather than just saying "0-10!!!"
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You said to “Fire Drango”. He might not get the joke and fall into a deep state of despair.
Nah, players get cut or traded off when they stink at their job. Awful FO staff get to bomb on a historic level in Cleveland with no fear of getting fired.
He'll get the joke. He's not as stupid as you.
Except that they're not bombing at all. If you could look past the record, you'd see that. Just like if you can watch Drango's play and judge him rather than just saying "0-10!!!"
He'll get the joke. He's not as stupid as you.
Except that they're not bombing at all. If you could look past the record, you'd see that. Just like if you can watch Drango's play and judge him rather than just saying "0-10!!!"
The joke about Drango’s feelings is in reference to your trying to hen peck other grown men because they might hurt a professional athlete’s feelings, weak spine. Justin Gilbert is still waiting for you to posi post him into an average talent.
It isn’t just the record. They have Sheet the bed during the draft by pouring lots of picks into WR to no avail. They passed on several QBs, most notably Wentz, when they didn’t have to move at all to draft them. Hell, Sashi and Depodesta were just at a game scouting Rosen and Darnold when clearly they can’t ID QB talent. Neither one is a scout.
They may have something with Garrett if he doesn’t end up being perpetually injured but he was the consensus number 1. Even this FO could not screw that pick up.
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Be careful what you wish for Sam.
WSS
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Pussies,i love NE ohio seasons. Wut i hate are these slushy semi cold winters. It snows, then it melts in a day and turns to mud. When i was a kid we had right proper seasons......fukking global warming
Pussies,i love NE ohio seasons. Wut i hate are these slushy semi cold winters. It snows, then it melts in a day and turns to mud. When i was a kid we had right proper seasons......fukking global warming
I like the snow and ice. Biggest walleye ever come through Lake Erie ice. Can't sled ride on Cal mud and Ash. Skiing anyone? I've lived south. Screw the rattlesnakes, copperheads, black widows, cottonmouths, fireants, brown recluse and alligators. Northeast Ohio is cool and of course Cleveland Rocks!
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Would you say Kizer is growing and getting better, or getting worse as the season goes forward?
More like is stuck...stuck around a better level than he showed Games 1 thru 6 maybe, but with still a good ways to go.
Now this was a very good D today, maybe the best we've seen all year, but still...
One thing has been a constant all season is that his improved ball security in the pocket vanishes the second he begins to run. That is... his left hand comes off the ball with step one. Wasn't a factor in every fumble today, a couple were in the act of throwing, but a couple were due to this. The one that was scooped and should have been a score for the Jags was one example and there was a second that he ended up falling on and recovering himself.
Touch is another stuck area. While today he didn't really fastball anyone I can think of and even took a little off his TD to Duke (pass of the day), other "touch passes" were just inaccurate... and it seems the softer he throws it the less accurate it is. May be as simple as him aiming his off-speed stuff... something reps can cure. May be off-speed is just not natural to him... again reps can help here.
Pocket presence today was definitely not what we saw vs. the Lions... or Vikes. But again, may have been that D.
More like is stuck...stuck around a better level than he showed Games 1 thru 6 maybe, but with still a good ways to go.
Now this was a very good D today, maybe the best we've seen all year, but still...
One thing has been a constant all season is that his improved ball security in the pocket vanishes the second he begins to run. That is... his left hand comes off the ball with step one. Wasn't a factor in every fumble today, a couple were in the act of throwing, but a couple were due to this. The one that was scooped and should have been a score for the Jags was one example and there was a second that he ended up falling on and recovering himself.
Touch is another stuck area. While today he didn't really fastball anyone I can think of and even took a little off his TD to Duke (pass of the day), other "touch passes" were just inaccurate... and it seems the softer he throws it the less accurate it is. May be as simple as him aiming his off-speed stuff... something reps can cure. May be off-speed is just not natural to him... again reps can help here.
Pocket presence today was definitely not what we saw vs. the Lions... or Vikes. But again, may have been that D.
I enjoyed reading that analysis.
It's a pitty that I think he improved during the season in pocket and avoiding sacks (first 2-3 games he was awful on that) and today he stepped back on that area. There was a great D, but his timing should have been faster, although you can think that could lead to worse reads and less accurate throws.
I haven't checked it during the game, but how many times did he have max protection? I mean, have we used tight ends to block? Tackles were getting owned and as you said not just Drango.
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