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  • Our Greg Williams led 'improved' defense has given up 289 total points, or 26.3 points per game........ Seems like the defense is following The Process perfectly. 

    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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    @d-bone said:

    Our Greg Williams led 'improved' defense has given up 289 total points, or 26.3 points per game........ Seems like the defense is following The Process perfectly. 

    Just curious, but how many points per game did last year's defense give up?

  • C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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    Good defense doesnt mysteriously appear one night during training camp. Theres no defense fairy that comes to players one night during tc and sprinkles magic dust over them. It takes years to build the kind of perennial powerhouses that lebeau had in pgh all those years. Can we please stop? The defense didnt play that well today, and neither did the offense....just like every fukking week. 

  • @d-bone said:

    Our Greg Williams led 'improved' defense has given up 289 total points, or 26.3 points per game........ Seems like the defense is following The Process perfectly. 

    Just curious, but how many points per game did last year's defense give up?

    D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by
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    @dutch-oven said:

    Just curious, but how many points per game did last year's defense give up?

    452/28.2

  • @d-bone said:

    Our Greg Williams led 'improved' defense has given up 289 total points, or 26.3 points per game........ Seems like the defense is following The Process perfectly. 

    Just curious, but how many points per game did last year's defense give up?

    C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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    @dutch-oven said:

    Just curious, but how many points per game did last year's defense give up?

    This oughta be good

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Just curious, but how many points per game did last year's defense give up?

    452/28.2

    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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    @d-bone said:

    452/28.2

    Baby steps.

  • @d-bone said:

    452/28.2

    Baby steps.

    D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by
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    @dutch-oven said:

    Baby steps.

    Baby ant steps 

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Baby steps.

    Baby ant steps 

    D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by
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    @d-bone said:

    Baby ant steps 

    Dammit...... I keep forgetting it's A Process. 

    My bad. 

  • B BaconHound wrote on last edited by
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    Defense has been better, not great.

    The offense has been worse, scary bad.

  • C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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    Our wr's, conservatively estimating, have potentially cost us 1-2 games, maybe more. 

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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    No D can do it alone...

  • The Rams got noticably better without Williams. The Jags got better without Stosh. The tribe got better without depudpuller. So what could possibly help the Browns to get better?? Hmmmmm

    GhoolieG Ghoolie wrote on last edited by
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    @flyingfooldoug said:

    The Rams got noticably better without Williams. The Jags got better without Stosh. The tribe got better without depudpuller. So what could possibly help the Browns to get better?? Hmmmmm

    Wisdom

  • The Rams got noticably better without Williams. The Jags got better without Stosh. The tribe got better without depudpuller. So what could possibly help the Browns to get better?? Hmmmmm

    W wargograw wrote on last edited by
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    @flyingfooldoug said:

    The Rams got noticably better without Williams. The Jags got better without Stosh. The tribe got better without depudpuller. So what could possibly help the Browns to get better?? Hmmmmm

    Actually I'm pretty sure the Rams D is worse, and they replaced Williams with a HoF DC. Got one of those for us? I’ll waiy. 

    Sashi was a consultant for the Jags promotions or something. You cant actually believe that’s a remotely credible point. 

    The Indians won 4 division championships in the 4 years Depodesta was there. 

    This couldn't have been a more terrible post. 

  • No D can do it alone...

    flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug wrote on last edited by
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    @tour2ma said:

    No D can do it alone...

    You're absolutely right. They need a coach too.

  • @flyingfooldoug said:

    The Rams got noticably better without Williams. The Jags got better without Stosh. The tribe got better without depudpuller. So what could possibly help the Browns to get better?? Hmmmmm

    Actually I'm pretty sure the Rams D is worse, and they replaced Williams with a HoF DC. Got one of those for us? I’ll waiy. 

    Sashi was a consultant for the Jags promotions or something. You cant actually believe that’s a remotely credible point. 

    The Indians won 4 division championships in the 4 years Depodesta was there. 

    This couldn't have been a more terrible post. 

    D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by
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    @wargograw said:

    Actually I'm pretty sure the Rams D is worse

    2016 Rams gave up 24.6pts per game

    2017 Rams giving up 18.7pts per game

    Not the 1st time you've been wrong, and certainly not the last.......................... 

  • @wargograw said:

    Actually I'm pretty sure the Rams D is worse

    2016 Rams gave up 24.6pts per game

    2017 Rams giving up 18.7pts per game

    Not the 1st time you've been wrong, and certainly not the last.......................... 

    C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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    @d-bone said:

    2016 Rams gave up 24.6pts per game

    2017 Rams giving up 18.7pts per game

    Not the 1st time you've been wrong, and certainly not the last.......................... 

    U see that we're ranked well ahead of the rams in total defense right?

  • @d-bone said:

    2016 Rams gave up 24.6pts per game

    2017 Rams giving up 18.7pts per game

    Not the 1st time you've been wrong, and certainly not the last.......................... 

    U see that we're ranked well ahead of the rams in total defense right?

    D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by D Bone
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    @clevfan4life said:

    U see that we're ranked well ahead of the rams in total defense right?

    Points allowed is all I look for.....  

  • No D can do it alone...

    R roach wrote on last edited by
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    @tour2ma said:

    No D can do it alone...

    Well that’s just goofy.  Of course a D just can.  

    But how many teams would have won today that gave up 30 points?  

    none.  there is no team today that gave up 30 points and would have won.  zero.  nada.  Gregg Williams is a farse.

  • @clevfan4life said:

    U see that we're ranked well ahead of the rams in total defense right?

    Points allowed is all I look for.....  

    C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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    @d-bone said:

    Points allowed is all I look for..... anything else is just Spin Doctoring. 

    Except that points allowed doesnt take into consideration alot of factors. Namely when ur playing with one of the worst offenses in the league it absolutely affects the defense. 

  • @tour2ma said:

    No D can do it alone...

    Well that’s just goofy.  Of course a D just can.  

    But how many teams would have won today that gave up 30 points?  

    none.  there is no team today that gave up 30 points and would have won.  zero.  nada.  Gregg Williams is a farse.

    C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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    @roach said:

    Well that’s just goofy.  Of course a D just can.  

    But how many teams would have won today that gave up 30 points?  

    none.  there is no team today that gave up 30 points and would have won.  zero.  nada.  Gregg Williams is a farse.

    Ill bet tom brady and the pats could drop more than 30 on the bengals if they felt it necessary

  • @tour2ma said:

    No D can do it alone...

    Well that’s just goofy.  Of course a D just can.  

    But how many teams would have won today that gave up 30 points?  

    none.  there is no team today that gave up 30 points and would have won.  zero.  nada.  Gregg Williams is a farse.

    Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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    @roach said:

    Well that’s just goofy.  Of course a D just can.  

    But how many teams would have won today that gave up 30 points?  

    none.  there is no team today that gave up 30 points and would have won.  zero.  nada.  Gregg Williams is a farse.

    Indeed. When we get a good defense, it will win games. 

    Because our offense can’t win a game