Team of losers
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This might be a gross oversimplification, but you know what I see virtually every week? I see a team that just doesn't make the effing plays when they're THERE. If we strip the ball out, we don't recover it. If Boddy-Calhoun has two chances at difficult pick-6's, he can't make the play (either dang time!). If Corey Coleman gets a PERFECT throw for a deep touchdown opportunity...he DROPS it. Listen, I haven't seen the stats, but we HAVE TO BE last in "big touchdown plays", right? Christ, about the only time we get a freaking TD is if Kizer gets close enough to run it in! Corey really hurt us there, and it just goes to my point that we have a bunch of players who simply CANNOT MAKE THE EFFING PLAYS when we need them. Kizer has Higgins open in the end zone...throws it 8 feet behind him. Kizer has Higgins open in the red zone for a 20 yard gain....throws it 9 feet high and picked again. Kizer doesn't see Njoku wide open in the end zone. Kizer doesn't see Dreggs break-dancing in the end zone. Kizer misses the fade pattern approximately 57 times in a row. Our defense has 4 people surrounding Brissett on 3rd and goal, everybody whiffs and the Colts score another TD. Our kicker misses FG's in a close Jets game. Skillet Hands Louis and Kenny Britt drop passes, and Crow misses holes. The plays are THERE, we just consistently screw them up.
Is this coaching? Can Hue be held responsible for his players tinkling down their legs when it's time for them to make the play? Hue certainly has his share of blame, but he can't catch the ball. Recover the fumble. Make the pick. Kick the FG. Throw it accurately, right? Yes Hue has messed up multiple clock situations. Yes he messes up some play calls. But he ultimately has put our terrible team in a few situations to win and they just haven't figured it out. Same thing LAST year. Jesus, that abysmal team should've won 4 games.
I need some coffee and perhaps a Xanax.
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I was just reading about another exec that Jimmy Haslam hired. He said...
" I cheated customers and I did it well."
And I bet he could run a football team as good as Stosh and co. I know I could.
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That was the only thing in the game that upset me Mark. Total BS call. As others have said- we're not getting the calls (or no-calls) because we suck.
which means the NFL refs are corrupt. I think they screw with the Browns, knowing goodhell hates us for demanding
our team back. look at how we started - not at all like the two later expansion teams did. and on and on it goes...
and draft mistakes never helped. and why would any top FA go to a team that doesn't even get fair calls from referrees?
and on and on it goes.
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The rule states that you can't hit a player in the head chin or face with the crown of your helmet. Regardless if it was the initial hit or not.
I've never wagered against the Browns in any way in my entire life. Never wagered online either. If I want to make a bet, there are plenty of bookies in the Mahoning valley. I like to shop local.
The rule states that you can't hit a player in the head chin or face with the crown of your helmet. Regardless if it was the initial hit or not.
lol... This after I pointed out the importance of Note 1?
Well the refs who were working the Green Bay Pisspuke game must not know that when T.J Watt hit the qb leading with his helmet hitting him in the helmet a sure as fuk helmet to helmet but NO CALL Because it is Pisspuke. Any more the wwe is the same as the nfl. The refs see what they want. Pisspuke is getting another ring this year to honor the Rooney tat kicked the bucket.
I think the point there was that Hundley had become a runner and thus, by the rule, lost his "protection".
But even were this not the case I hate seeing any call on the D when the offensive player ducks into the helmet to helmet hit. Case in point was a "defenseless receiver" hit on Cooper in the OAK/DNV game. Cooper had lowered his head to waist level and was leading with his helmet leaving nothing left to hit.
Bottom line: The refs need help with these bang-bang play, judgement calls, i.e., replay.
Remember when there was a 5-yd, "accidental" facemask call in the rules? It was deemed to be too tough on the Refs to call vs. the 15-yd intentional variety. lol... It was child's play compared to many of these hits.
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The crown of his helmet hit the guys chin. Peppers gonna get a fine.
Sure it did...
Care to make it interesting?
Technically, he wasn't a defenseless receiver.
He had the ball, and made 2 steps before he was popped.
Which means it should have been a completed pass and fumble OB... I think... but who knows anymore.
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A few thoughts on this:
1. While not blatant, his helmet went into his chin. By the letter of the law, it should have been called a penalty.
2. If the Browns/Peppers hadn't gotten a penalty on that play, and it was deemed just an incomplete pass, it would have been the Bengals who would have been screwed on that play because of the obvious pass interference that the refs missed. He caught the ball one-handed because our corner had hold of the Bengals receivers other arm.
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A few thoughts on this:
1. While not blatant, his helmet went into his chin. By the letter of the law, it should have been called a penalty.
2. If the Browns/Peppers hadn't gotten a penalty on that play, and it was deemed just an incomplete pass, it would have been the Bengals who would have been screwed on that play because of the obvious pass interference that the refs missed. He caught the ball one-handed because our corner had hold of the Bengals receivers other arm.
A few thoughts on this:
1. While not blatant, his helmet went into his chin. By the letter of the law, it should have been called a penalty.
I saw this as well...and saw it in the pics that Tour posted. That makes my issue with what penalty was called. It wasn't for a hit to the head...it was for a defenseless receiver, which begs the question, how many steps after a catch does a player have to make before he's not defenseless anymore?
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A few thoughts on this:
1. While not blatant, his helmet went into his chin. By the letter of the law, it should have been called a penalty.
I saw this as well...and saw it in the pics that Tour posted. That makes my issue with what penalty was called. It wasn't for a hit to the head...it was for a defenseless receiver, which begs the question, how many steps after a catch does a player have to make before he's not defenseless anymore?
I saw this as well...and saw it in the pics that Tour posted. That makes my issue with what penalty was called. It wasn't for a hit to the head...it was for a defenseless receiver, which begs the question, how many steps after a catch does a player have to make before he's not defenseless anymore?
My question is, if the NFL is so concerned about hits to the helmet, why are RB’s & WR’s permitted to drop their head and lead with their helmet? The rules seem one sided.
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You want to eliminate people leading with their helmets?
Take the facemasks off.
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You want to eliminate people leading with their helmets?
Take the facemasks off.
You want to eliminate people leading with their helmets?
Take the facemasks off.
Typical solution for a typical mind.
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You want to eliminate people leading with their helmets?
Take the facemasks off.
Typical solution for a typical mind.
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The crown of his helmet hit the guys chin. Peppers gonna get a fine.
The crown of his helmet hit the guys chin. Peppers gonna get a fine.
Perhaps there were to many words in Tours explanation for you to comprehend? Hell man he even gave you pictures!! SMH , It was a good CLEAN. hard hit.
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The crown of his helmet hit the guys chin. Peppers gonna get a fine.
Perhaps there were to many words in Tours explanation for you to comprehend? Hell man he even gave you pictures!! SMH , It was a good CLEAN. hard hit.
Perhaps there were to many words in Tours explanation for you to comprehend? Hell man he even gave you pictures!! SMH , It was a good CLEAN. hard hit.
You could be right but the leagues saw it otherwise. They fined him $24,000 for that clean hit to the head. I don't agree with it but I did read the rule and those pics just enforce it. And they fined the guy.
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The crown of his helmet hit the guys chin. Peppers gonna get a fine.
Perhaps there were to many words in Tours explanation for you to comprehend? Hell man he even gave you pictures!! SMH , It was a good CLEAN. hard hit.
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A few thoughts on this:
1. While not blatant, his helmet went into his chin. By the letter of the law, it should have been called a penalty.
I saw this as well...and saw it in the pics that Tour posted. That makes my issue with what penalty was called. It wasn't for a hit to the head...it was for a defenseless receiver, which begs the question, how many steps after a catch does a player have to make before he's not defenseless anymore?
I saw this as well...and saw it in the pics that Tour posted. That makes my issue with what penalty was called. It wasn't for a hit to the head...it was for a defenseless receiver, which begs the question, how many steps after a catch does a player have to make before he's not defenseless anymore?
It really doesn't matter if a penalty is called or not. The league levels these fines all the time....with or without a penalty called. But the fact that the crown of peppers helmet hit the other guys chin, the NFL fines it. That's the rule.
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A few thoughts on this:
1. While not blatant, his helmet went into his chin. By the letter of the law, it should have been called a penalty.
2. If the Browns/Peppers hadn't gotten a penalty on that play, and it was deemed just an incomplete pass, it would have been the Bengals who would have been screwed on that play because of the obvious pass interference that the refs missed. He caught the ball one-handed because our corner had hold of the Bengals receivers other arm.
A few thoughts on this:
1. While not blatant, his helmet went into his chin. By the letter of the law, it should have been called a penalty.
2. If the Browns/Peppers hadn't gotten a penalty on that play, and it was deemed just an incomplete pass, it would have been the Bengals who would have been screwed on that play because of the obvious pass interference that the refs missed. He caught the ball one-handed because our corner had hold of the Bengals receivers other arm.
Even without a penalty called at all or on the other team, Peppers gets fined. They do it all the time regardless of penalty being issued or not. It's the rule now.
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Most are still ignoring Note 1... including the league. I still see the force of the blow being delivered shoulder to ribs with glancing incidental contact to the bottom of the facemask.
But Peppers got a fine, not an apology, so I was wrong. And Peppers' weird appeal while saying the call was correct(?) yet should be reviewed for targeting at the time as it is in college, is just... well... weird.
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This team did not quit yesterday.If it was not for a bullsjit call things mite have ended different. They would never call that bs on Pisspuke..
This team did not quit yesterday.If it was not for a bullsjit call things mite have ended different. They would never call that bs on Pisspuke..
If the best thing we can say about a bunch of millionaires is they didn't "quit"..well we got problems.
Every team tries to win. I'm sure the coaches and front office want to win. They're just an awful organization from top to bottom. The players aren't good enough.
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A few thoughts on this:
1. While not blatant, his helmet went into his chin. By the letter of the law, it should have been called a penalty.
2. If the Browns/Peppers hadn't gotten a penalty on that play, and it was deemed just an incomplete pass, it would have been the Bengals who would have been screwed on that play because of the obvious pass interference that the refs missed. He caught the ball one-handed because our corner had hold of the Bengals receivers other arm.
A few thoughts on this:
1. While not blatant, his helmet went into his chin. By the letter of the law, it should have been called a penalty.
2. If the Browns/Peppers hadn't gotten a penalty on that play, and it was deemed just an incomplete pass, it would have been the Bengals who would have been screwed on that play because of the obvious pass interference that the refs missed. He caught the ball one-handed because our corner had hold of the Bengals receivers other arm.
If my aunt had nuts she'd be my uncle.
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You want to eliminate people leading with their helmets?
Take the facemasks off.
You want to eliminate people leading with their helmets?
Take the facemasks off.
That might not work for the hits with the crown.
Better yet: do like rugby: take the helmets off.
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