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  • @westside-steve said:

    I'm assuming that every one of the professionals that spends all this time studying tape or statistics or Dianetics or whatever would then all be on the same page and not split among Darnold Rosen Berkeley and Allen.

    Who is "Berkekey"?

    Well, except in a vacuum that would be a silly assumption. But in such context as competition level, team quality, off-field, etc. variation is going to occur.

    W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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    @tour2ma said:

    Who is "Berkekey"?

     speech to text glitch.

    Well, except in a vacuum that would be a silly assumption. But in such context as competition level, team quality, off-field, etc. variation is going to occur.

    😉

    WSS

  • TopDawg31T TopDawg31 wrote on last edited by
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    Is this the same Mel Kiper that had Ryan Leaf ahead of Peyton Manning?

  • Is this the same Mel Kiper that had Ryan Leaf ahead of Peyton Manning?

    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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    @topdawg31 said:

    Is this the same Mel Kiper that had Ryan Leaf ahead of Peyton Manning?

    actually, that is pretty good ! LOL. I reckon Kiper learned his lesson on character etc...

    http://broncoswire.usatoday.com/2018/01/19/mel-kiper-2018-nfl-mock-draft-josh-allen-ryan-leaf/

  • @topdawg31 said:

    Is this the same Mel Kiper that had Ryan Leaf ahead of Peyton Manning?

    actually, that is pretty good ! LOL. I reckon Kiper learned his lesson on character etc...

    http://broncoswire.usatoday.com/2018/01/19/mel-kiper-2018-nfl-mock-draft-josh-allen-ryan-leaf/

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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    @calfoxwc said:

    actually, that is pretty good ! LOL. I reckon Kiper learned his lesson on character etc...

    http://broncoswire.usatoday.com/2018/01/19/mel-kiper-2018-nfl-mock-draft-josh-allen-ryan-leaf/

    My POV Cal is character counts in the evaluation- to a point. Dak Prescott dropped in the draft due to the DUI. Turns out that was an isolated instance- the same might be the case with Mayfield. Yeah, he's done some stupid crap on the field, but I'll chalk that up to youthful exuberance. OTOH, Johnny Football has so many red character flags you would have thought it was back in the day of a Kremlin parade. He's probably the only guy I've ever torpedoed mostly on that basis- but there were other holes in his game I didn't like either. 

  • @the-gipper said:

    But, through all this...the allegation that he cannot hit the broad side of a barn door is not refuted.

    of course it isn't - until you watch his games, any highlight video. I mean "cannot hit the ..." and then he does it  all over the highlight films. You need "el kabong" to knock some sense in to ya? Of course he can.

         The allegation is simply "rah rah for the top rated brah" ya? That is as bs as showing 4 ints in a playoff game by Peyton Manning, and saying "see? he can't hit the broadside of a barn"

        If all you needed was accuracy, here's your qb:

    "Analysis

    Strengths

    XXX  has an NFL-quality frame that allows him to look over the offensive line and deliver his throws without a hitch. His quick release is his strongest asset, as he consistently fires the ball with a compact throwing motion and strong delivery. The ball zips off his arm, and he has the ability to fit it in any tight space. He is "all of the above" in terms of being a mature, poised leader. He is an accurate passer on throws short and long, and he has that gunslinger mentality to go for the deep ball when it's an option. He understands route progressions and throwing the ball to allow his receiver to make a play."
    OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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    @calfoxwc said:

    "Analysis

    Strengths

    XXX  has an NFL-quality frame that allows him to look over the offensive line and deliver his throws without a hitch. His quick release is his strongest asset, as he consistently fires the ball with a compact throwing motion and strong delivery. The ball zips off his arm, and he has the ability to fit it in any tight space. He is "all of the above" in terms of being a mature, poised leader. He is an accurate passer on throws short and long, and he has that gunslinger mentality to go for the deep ball when it's an option. He understands route progressions and throwing the ball to allow his receiver to make a play."

    ...this guy don't sound any dang good.

  • @topdawg31 said:

    Is this the same Mel Kiper that had Ryan Leaf ahead of Peyton Manning?

    actually, that is pretty good ! LOL. I reckon Kiper learned his lesson on character etc...

    http://broncoswire.usatoday.com/2018/01/19/mel-kiper-2018-nfl-mock-draft-josh-allen-ryan-leaf/

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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    @calfoxwc said:

    actually, that is pretty good ! LOL. I reckon Kiper learned his lesson on character etc...

    So he's one one lesson up on you?

  • @calfoxwc said:

    actually, that is pretty good ! LOL. I reckon Kiper learned his lesson on character etc...

    So he's one one lesson up on you?

    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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    @tour2ma said:

    So he's one one lesson up on you?

    how is that exactly? since I didn't like leaf back in the day, and now Kiper unknowingly agrees with me? eh?🙄

  • @calfoxwc said:

    actually, that is pretty good ! LOL. I reckon Kiper learned his lesson on character etc...

    So he's one one lesson up on you?

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by TexasAg1969
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    @tour2ma said:

    So he's one one lesson up on you?

    @calfoxwc said:

    actually, that is pretty good ! LOL. I reckon Kiper learned his lesson on character etc...

    Come on Tour every town needs it's town character. 😁

  • C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by calfoxwc
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    We're all characters. Why can't we all get a long? neck?

  • We're all characters. Why can't we all get a long? neck?

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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    @calfoxwc said:

    We're all characters.

    Agree with you on that.😵