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  • mjp28M mjp28 wrote on
    #4

    I find that quite interesting from what you think the numbers would show and what they really are. Nice.

    GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
  • Z Zombo wrote on
    #5

    Is BYU considered Power 5?

    Zombo

  • Z Zombo

    Is BYU considered Power 5?

    Zombo

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #6

    Zombo said:

    Is BYU considered Power 5?

    Zombo

    I believe it is....as I said, like Notre Dame.  I will check.  Here is some info:

    BYU[edit]

    During the conference realignment that saw the university choose football independence in August 2010, some saw BYU as a potential future "Notre Dame of the West". Both are prominent faith-based schools; Notre Dame is arguably the best-known Catholic university in the U.S., while BYU is the flagship university of the LDS Church. The 1984 team's national championship is the most recent by a university that is not a current member of the College Football Playoff coalition.

    BYU was earning less than $2 million a year through its contract with The MTN, the now-defunct TV network of the Mountain West Conference. BYU has its own cable channel,[13] but had a very restrictive contract which did not allow BYU to broadcast its own football games.[14] The new contract with ESPN will pay BYU an estimated $800,000 to $1.2 million per home game,[15] and allow for greater freedom with its own channel.

    So...I don't know.  I think if they didn't want to be known as "The Notre Dame of the West"...they could join one of the P5.....either the Pac 12 or the Big 12.  

  • mjp28M mjp28 wrote on
    #7

    ........BYU was earning less than $2 million a year through its contract with The MTN, the now-defunct TV network of the Mountain West Conference. BYU has its own cable channel,[13] but had a very restrictive contract which did not allow BYU to broadcast its own football games.[14] The new contract with ESPN will pay BYU an estimated $800,000 to $1.2 million per home game,[15] and allow for greater freedom with its own channel.......

    When you talk about P5 or elite college football this is the underlying driving force and has been for awhile now.

    It costs money to compete now in facilities, salaries and all the other amenities, it's not just the old ABC and Keith Jackson anymore, did you ever picture the B1G on FOX?

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  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #8

    It costs money to compete now in facilities, salaries and all the other amenities, it's not just the old ABC and Keith Jackson anymore, did you ever picture the B1G on FOX?

    Fox didn't exist as a network until the mid 90s.  But yes, certainly you could have pictured the Big Ten on any of the networks.  Why not?

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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #9

    BYU was an independent ala ND for a very long time, wasn't it?

    Not surprising that P5s dominate QB production... just as they dominate production of every other position.

    The best programs draw the best talent from HS.

    The best programs are P5 programs.

    QED

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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    It costs money to compete now in facilities, salaries and all the other amenities, it's not just the old ABC and Keith Jackson anymore, did you ever picture the B1G on FOX?

    Fox didn't exist as a network until the mid 90s.  But yes, certainly you could have pictured the Big Ten on any of the networks.  Why not?

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on
    #10

    @the-gipper said:

    It costs money to compete now in facilities, salaries and all the other amenities, it's not just the old ABC and Keith Jackson anymore, did you ever picture the B1G on FOX?

    Fox didn't exist as a network until the mid 90s.  But yes, certainly you could have pictured the Big Ten on any of the networks.  Why not?

    I always pictured the old guard BIG TEN as in the ABC/ESPN family forever......but I guess everything has it's price.

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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #11

    I'm still freaked when I have to tune to CBS for AFC games...

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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    I'm still freaked when I have to tune to CBS for AFC games...

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on
    #12

    @tour2ma said:

    I'm still freaked when I have to tune to CBS for AFC games...

    And FOX didn't even have a real sports division when they got the NFL deal.....and then key CBS talent came over to FOX. NBC later ended up out of professional football! 

    Who knew?

     .......To the surprise and shock of many in the sports and media industries, on December 17, 1993, the NFL selected the bid offered by Fox, in the process stripping CBS of football for the first time since 1956.......

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  • GhoolieG Ghoolie wrote on
    #13

    Gip,

    nice thread. Really. You are football intense for sure. God bless ya man.

    For me, p5 non p5 doesn't matter. The glaring problem the Browns have is that they continue to purposely not participate in drafting the best playmakers. Sorry, but having 2 #1 picks and coming away with Coleman and Garrett? The Browns have had more high 1st round picks than anyone, for 18 years now, no NFL team has gotten less out of their draft.

    The Cleveland Browns have the hardest hit players in the NFL
  • W wargograw wrote on
    #14

    Obviously, BYU doesn't have a conference. Technically they do however play a schedule that, if gone undefeated through, would put them in the national championship, so I suppose they are P5.

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